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for me it was the Alec Baldwin/Kim bASINGER/Ron Howard episode. Excruciating
I can pinpoint the moment I became sick to my eye teeth of people whinging that the Simpsons isn't as good as it was in 1996 when they were 12 and a fucking moron.
i'm watching an old episode right now. it's vintage stuff
Everything Season 2 to about Season 9 was golden. Everything afterwards was not. Everyone who thinks current Simpsons has anything upon its golden age is a silly billy. You are a silly billy.
but he doesn't half talk some shit sometimes
and his best friend the talking pie say otherwise you fuck.
Rather, it's been very hit and miss since season 8, with the misses making up the bulk of the output.
If I had to pinpoint a moment when it jumped the shark, it would have to be the episode where Maude Flanders dies. Here's why:
* They took the most inoffensive, beautifully understated and subtle character in the entire show and killed her for no good reason.
* Moreover, her death was stupid, tacky, tasteless and offensive.
* Again, they did it for no reason whatsoever, aside from out of a desperate, attention-grabbing attempt to win ratings.
* Homer technically got her killed.
* His behaviour throughout the remainder of the episode - ranging from indifference to outright dickishness towards Ned - really made me dislike Homer Simpson for the first time ever.
or at least the last time i forced myself to watch it
"They took the most inoffensive, beautifully understated and subtle character in the entire show..."
I'd say she was a single-dimensional side character whose personality was often tweaked or enhanced to fit a gag. Subtle characterisation is not something I'd tend to associate with The Simpsons.
True fact. It does less for me than my annual ISA.
I did like that bit where they put Homer in an ambulance though, and it drove into a tree meaning that he fell down the cliff. Again. That bit was good.
I f***ing hate Mike Scully and those stupid idents he did before episodes a few years ago.
It's wrong about season 9 though. It had some totally genius episodes, e.g. Dumbell Indemnity, and moments e.g. Ray Patterson
and instantly thought of that episode.
"I recognised the logo"
-"Ron Howard is attached to direct"
-"No I'm not!"
-"He expressed interest"
-"No I didn't!"
"The Termanizor: an erotic thriller"
-"Oh there's the movie script I wrote! Where did you find it?"
-"On my pillow" (great voice acting by Baldwin here)
we're not talking a low point, we're talking a jumped the shark moment.
low point clearly = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future
surprised the article didn't mention that
was when Homer got his head stuck between the closing bridge. He, and by extension the whole show, always seemed a lot noisier and less funny after that.
That's the episode I thought of when I read the thread title.
It was just just awful. It was all about the celebrity voice and nothing about the Simpsons themselves. Garbage.
Have to say I think that there have been some good moments since, but that was the first episode I saw and really didn't enjoy.
...for The Simpsons can largely go like this:
Season 1: Exceptional broadcasting but still trying to find the magic formula
Season 2: The seeds are sown for unrivalled greatness
Season 3 - Season 8: The greatest tv comedy (and arguably 'programme') that has ever, ever been witnessed. Absolutely peerless television.
Season 9 - 11: Peerless at it's best (about 40-50% of the time) but quality control and "running out of ideas" become big problems during an increasing number of episodes
Season 12 onwards: Aside from the odd episode, an absolute shadow of its former self.
The problem with the Simpsons is you end up judging it by the standards IT has already set! The Simpsons doesn't owe anyone anything, in the '90's it generated about 200 episodes of televisual perfection. 200! That is one hell of a strike rate...
The Simpsons has gone from being the greatest comedy show ever created and possibly the most televisual achievement of the last 25 years to being a very funny animated sitcom. The latter episodes are frequently genuinely funny if you think of them as slapstick animated comedy and, well, like that kinda thing...
I suppose it's a celebration in itself that when the Simpsons became merely "exceptionally funny for the most part but inconsistent and stupid for the rest" that THAT was a cause for outrageous concern. Sure, I'm not a big fan of the latter episodes, but only because they're the product of a show which raised the bar SO high there was only ever going to be one way down...
...one of the best lines of all time though:
"But Marge, I SWEAR to you... I never thought you'd find out!"
WOULD PEOPLE FUCK OFF WITH THAT SAYING?
'TURNED RUBBISH OR WENT SHIT' WILL SUFFICE. Stop trying to be cool.
look it up
Because the show has always had absurd plots.
For the first eight series the plots pretty much almost adhered to their own internal logic and were emotionally true to the characters. By Season Twelve they had thrown the internal logic out the window.
and Homer turned from a loveable idiot, into an actual fucking cunt.
or a truly cartoonish scene before snapping back to relative reality. It makes a lot of sense and I feel that feeling began to get lost.
are really really good.
It was in Season Eight, Episode Four ("Burns Baby Burns" ) when, at the end of the episode, someone declared it was a party and then alcohol appeared and so Marge (I think) said "hey, where did all the alcohol come from?" to get the reply "It's a party. Who cares?".
A small moment perhaps and it was great for the rest of the series but it was (I think) the first moment where they had an ending that ignored logic and joked about it. Something they then did in the Principal and the Pauper and pretty much every episode in Season Twelve when it really turned crap.
"HEY GUYS... SURF'S UP!"
BEST SCENE EVER
...a reference to the ending of the Rodney Dangerfield film "Back To School" in an episode featuring Rodney Dangerfield, so it does make sense innit.
they were basically doing a cheap Family Guy "reference for the sake of making a reference" joke. But that's a different thread in itself.
WTF. Remember when she was all about jazz? And also a proper nerd instead of just the generic smart/principled character when it makes for an easy plot aide or gag. Honestly used to be probably one of the best female characters in the history of television. With the Groban episode, they finally rendered her as lame as Marge. Omg I just wrote an earnest paragraph about a cartoon.
Seemingly no-one can use it right.
A quick glance through this thread, and others like it, demonstrates that a fair few people don't know what it means. I blame that 'when did post rock jump the shark?' article DiS did a while back.
Stealthy shouted at me as well.