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Can good actors stop appearing in shit films, please?
I know, you're easily amused but I like an action film to be fucking great too. Like True Lies or Die Hard, say. This will just be a rehash of The Day After Tomorrow, which was a rehash of Independence Day, which was a huge pile of shit.
independence day is best spectacle movie of the 1990s by far. its also probably to do with how old i was when i saw it (maybe 13?) but nothing has ever looked as incredible on a cinema screen to me.
incidentally i can't think of a time when an actor just being in a film has made me want to see it.
Why not just rate it as the Best Movie Called Independence Day of the 1990s?
Films of the 1990s that were more spectacular:
- Terminator 2
- Jurassic Park
- Titanic (yeah, really)
It's a really lame and terrible way to rate a film, though.
I saw it when it came out and I (mostly) enjoyed the time I spent in the cinema watching it but it was a pile of arse and I'd never be bothered to see it again.
spectacle movies are all about big set pieces and ID rules there. good point about JP, i'd probably rate them equally.
i don't really consider it any less valid reason for enjoying a movie than any other way.
It's why Episode I is such a pile of arse. Oh wow, CGI! Hey Lucas, did you forget that there should probably be a movie in here too?
I can appreciate big fuck off special effects work but I can't really love them any more than you could fall for the most beautiful woman in the world if she had the personality of a dustbin.
I don't disagree that it has some amazing FX work and scenes but I have no desire whatsoever to have to watch the movie that surrounds them.
Titanic is the same: The ship sinking and all that stuff was utterly amazing but I'd have to watch a pretty dire film to see that again and I can't be arsed, no matter how good Cameron is at that shit.
14 Oscar nominations, and the script didn't get nominated. And I know you don't watch a film like Titanic for the script but once things like that get too poor it's no longer fun escapism, it's just bloody annoying *coughMichaelBaycough*
without any of its actors/actresses being nominated.
Kate Winslet and Gloria Stuart (who played the elderly Rose) were both nominated for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress respectively. And loads of films have been nominated for Best Picture and got no acting nominations - The Last Emperor, Braveheart, LOTR: Return of the King and Slumdog Millionaire all won Best Picture despite no acting nominations
Independence Day is brilliant.
"WELCOME TO EARTH!" *Punch*
"Now that's what I call a close encounter."
considering the rest of his career has basically been WICKEDY WICKEDY WILD WILD LOOK AT MY VINTAGE CONVERSE
The good guys dress in black, remember that,
Just in case we ever face to face and make contact.
The title held by me... M.I.B.
Means what you think you saw, you did not see.
So don't blink,
Think what was there but now's gone.
Black suit with the black Ray Ban's on.
Walk in shadow, move in silence,
Guard against extra-terrestrial violence.
But yo we ain't on no government list.
We straight don't exist,
No names and no fingerprints.
Saw something strange,
Watch your back.
Cause you never quite know where the M.I.B.'s is at
Great film! Terrible song. Truly awful.
But Boom! Shake the Room! Now THAT's a class track.
as the Ghostbusters 2 rap.
Because that is a legitimately brilliant song.
I taped it off the radio.
It's all the fucking jingo-istic, melodramatic, Jeff Daniels-wearing-eyeliner turd that sits around it that drags the fucker down.
Okay, it's hardly Michael Bay Fucking Up Armageddon bad, but it's pretty fucking awful.
It has Will Smith punching an alien square in the face, Jeff Goldblum cracking an alien OS with breezing ease AND Harvey Fierstein talking with his voice.
What a guy. I wish Bill Pullman was really President that would be awesome.
They always seem the same. His eyeliner was gash, though.
"I really hate that man."
"I forgot my mantra"
C'mon! That shit was considered brilliant back before we got cynical and world-weary.
NB: The one bit of footage Ejiofor has in the trailer for 2012 makes it look like he's going for the mature cheddar Bill Pullman route - which, given that it's being directed by the guy who made Independence Day, could easily be the case.
*Oh HELL NAW!
it also says that at some point in the film "the U.S. government declares the end of the world". just think of a man in a suit at a lecturn declaring that world is over. its a hilarious concept.
It just reminds me that you're a bad'un and I am still right.
Other great moments
British airmen in the Middle East (is this film set in 1942?)
"The Americans are launching an attack"
"Well, it's about bloody time"
Germans receiving morse code in what appears to be Colditz
Though neither would be accurate...
I'll go and see it. If it passess 90 minutes pleasantly enough I'll declare it a moderate success
Aliens Extended is about 2.5 hours I think.
i'm about 95% sure that Emmerich only got to make this film so long because both Transformers films were really long and grossed a squillion dollars.
I like to think Michael Bay got his idea from watching Cameron's extended cuts of Aliens and T2 and not having the ability to understand why they were cut down for the cinema in the first place. He's such a hack! :D
Even Pulp Fiction makes 150mins seem long.
I loved Die Hard 4. I love a lot of low-brow movies. I just don't like low-brow action movies that try to get the Mills & Boon audience too.
Theo, do you think widowed elderly women who do their weekly shop in the local Oxfam are this film's primary demographic?
Snobby snob snob.
I mean going for the sappy love angle and all that over the top worrying about your loved ones as the world ends!!!
It's just shit. True Lies doesn't have that bollocks in it. It's just about FUCKING SHIT UP WHILE SNOGGING YOUR WIFE ONLY WHEN YOU GET TWO SECS AS THE NUKE EXPLODES. That's what an action movie should be like. Don't give me CUNTING ROMANCE!
Is your boiler broken?
I might have to see this now.
apparently plays a science fiction writer who is also a limo driver.
I love that thing about him only taking Con Air because his agent told him that sometimes he should try to get paid.
Also, isn't Danny Glover too old for this shit? He plays the President, I think. Morgan Freeman was president in Deep Impact - was that one of theirs too?
His best friend is a talking pie
At least you don't have to put up with Mel Gibson's 'I don't like the English, me' in Independence Day and 2012.
And I#d almost forgotten how awful the US Godzilla film was
over 90mins long can fuck off. Boring. It'll be packed with an hour of filler rubbish at least. Why do they do this?
And ANY cgi effects can fuck RIGHT off. They're absolutely crap. They never look good.
I think I've made my opinion clear on this subject. I'm a cynical old bastard.
Significantly over 120 minutes is starting to push it, but I make exceptions
Don't be daft.
I have a really bad attention span. I tried to think of a film I liked that was over 90min and I couldn't. How long was Pans Labyrinth? I liked that. I bet it was about two hours, non?