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is because of all the government campaigns warning them of this?
I've got a fair amount of sympathy for the thinking behind that article, because i recently had to take someone to hospital who was convinced their drink had been spiked, when in fact they'd just gotten extremely pissed and then had a panic attack.
However, i also had to help someone take their friend home once who had clearly been drugged; she had been chatted up by some dodgy blokes at the bar and if she hadn't had her friends looking out for her probably would've been taken home and raped.
It was pretty weird, she suddenly went incredibly suggestible/compliant and had this freaky glazed dreamy look to her eyes. She also started walking around in the middle of the night and went to the toilet on her bedroom chair.
but that sounds like all stuff people do after excessive drinking
Date rape drugs put people to sleep, they don't make them stagger around and piss themselves.
We suspected someone of doing this once and then, he was caught red handed at another club doing it.
Stupid bouncers at the other club let him go rather than have any trouble with the police
if you can't tell, i am still angry about that, on the plus side, he seems to have left london nightlife completely now.
15 miles from where she was without phone and purse. She was lucky enough to escape anything worse but I hear stories in Manchester of this way to often for my liking.
the indenpendent is shit.
is highly, highly irresponsible journalism.
is perfectly acceptable journalism.
IMHO, it's pretty much like swine flu. Definitely about, and definitely a serious issue, but most people who think they've been spiked probably haven't.
is rape an urban legend because some people are wrongfully accused of it?
Neither did the journalist.
for a perfectly reasonable article.
but then basing your life decisions on a newspaper headline is irresponsible being-a-person, so it balances out.
It brings out my inner feminist. It doesn't really make a difference how they got into the state they are. Whether they drank too much or were drugged, they were too out of it to give consent so it's still rape. Stupid academics.
But if so that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Like you have to be at home and tell people not to steal your laptop for it to be theft.
Is legally consensual sex.
If so, I agree, of course. That's pretty ridiculous.
But in Scotland you have to give active consent...which, if you're really worried, kinda kills the mood a bit...
"so, shall we have sex then?"
To be honest, at least verbal contracts are valid up here, it'd be a right pain having to draw up a written agreement on the back of a condom packet...especially if it had to be witnessed...
if a woman isn't in a fit state to give consent, she can't give consent, and hence it is rape. consent is always an active thing
that by concentrating on the dangers of haveing their drink spiked womens are forgetting or maybes deliberately ignoring that getting absolutely shitcunted is just as/even more dangerous.
consent isn't the issue here - in no way is it being claimed that women who are voluntarily intoxicated thereby give consent whereas women who are date-raped do not.
These academics are merely reporting the fact voluntarily intoxication is widely mis-reported as date rape. No value judgements.
from people in denial, regreat or too scared to tell have daddy little girl being the wine deamon? non?
Im not saying its not out there, it deffinatly is, but its not nearly as widespread as people would have you believe.
pretty irresponsible journalism