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the Size Acceptance Movement would like to make discriminating against fat people illegal.
surely attacking someone is a crime anyway, what's the difference?
it already is a crime, you massive idiot!
country that have nothing to do with hate.
Are you just here to destroy a perfectly good ironic piece of humour or are you just missing the point a fair amount?
then neither is using it for the purposes of claiming attacking people for being fat is a 'hate' crime.
In actuality those 'random' acts of violence you talk about are almost certainly borne of 'hate' too. Drunken attacks (as many are) will come from associating the victim with someone or some type you hate, be it a class of person or a level of (lack of) manners. In general a 'random' attack could probably be traced back to something that is silly but no less reasonable to class in the bracket of 'hate', eh?
but fat people are very easy targets and having a go at anyone just because of the way they look isn't really on
But your follicle situation has been discussed on here on more than one occaision.
appearance to a minimum. I don't mind people I have met taking the piss and I appreciate you're doing it in a very light hearted manner but I'm not really a fan of it
you're a good egg though so I've pondered it for a couple of minutes and have decided that I was being a bit of a hysterical quim so I take it all back and don't mind any folicle related humour from you
am I allowed to also make a jibe?
use it wisely though
then people would be SURE to not make wisecracks
Which I'm not a fan of.
anyone made the "easy targets" joke yet? At work and can't be bothered ctrol+f'ing and all that...If you could just lemme know that'd be ace
The thing is most fat people can sort themselves out and lose weight, if they really wanted to. Old people, black people, women and the French can't help being the way they are (bad choice of words obviously but you get what I'm saying) whereas us fatties can, so I don't think it's on the same level really.
"Ugly People Alliance releases statement decrying the lack of sex ugly people get, just because they're ugly. "It's discrimination", said UPA chief Betty Winterbottom. "Purely because some people look like they've been hit by a bus, people don't want to have intimate relations with them. It's a disgrace!"
then I could dress up as Mick Foley on Halloween too. You fatties have it good I tell ya!
But piss taking aside, I guess it's more of an issue that people should just be abit nicer to each other. Although I must say the idea of a fitness instructor with an unhealthy build would ring alarm bells for me if I actually went to a gym or something.
I could be Stocky Chris Jericho but it's not the same.
Or as William Regal says, YouManga.
no no no no no
human judgement and accepting people as individuals is based entirely on being discriminate towards other individuals
unfounded prejudiced and discriminating against groups is the problem
I'm a smoker, granted, but I want to know when, exactly, it will become as taboo to be a lard arse motherfucker as it is currently to be a smoker.
Fat people are fire hazards, contribute less to society, and generally need to stop sitting around whining and get their swollen buttocks on a treadmill.
No more squeezing past two fatties on your way to buy a round. No more squeezing past them on the return trip, only this time trying not to spill your many lovely drinks.
the most awkward morning ever.
on aeroplanes. I have a very obese friend who was complaining that she was going to have to pay for 2 seats on a flight- but really, why not? She's like 2 people, she practically takes up two seats and it will cost as much to transport her as it would two average sized people.
I feel really awfully mean now. She's very jolly!
until they find the Custard Creams.
is the funniest thing I've seen on here in a while.
Where do I sign?
Is she sure it's because she's fat? Maybe she's just a cunt.
you genuinely do get a lot of hassle out and about. Mainly from young teenagers wanting to impress their mates/girlfriends... I've never had anything like the above happen to me but I can see how it could happen. Then again she could just be a cunt.
I don't think anyone deserves to come under physical attack because of how they look, regardless of whether it's something you can change or not. These people should be protesting about that as a whole, not just 'fattism', which is always going to sound ridiculous.
yes, it seems an oddly flawed argument. There is no real justification for people to be fat and from the point of view of their own health and social welfare it would be best for them and everyone else if they weren't fat. Is she advocating a right to be fat? Who would choose this as a free choice? Demis Roussos impersonators? Is she suggesting that she chooses to be fat? She deliberately over-consumes food as an aesthetic choice?
You've clearly never been on feeder.com
I've been on Demis Roussos's catamaran with the man himself... and his house but that doesn't sound as cool.
to even the keel?
and one of them is a fitness instructor, surely this is akin to being a dentist with no teeth?
or is that just lions?
I hope I'm not confusing the Big Cat Diary with human dentistry again
what a fud she was.
Eat healthily and you won't be fat.
It's quite simple.
usually these professional complainers are much the same though.
Perhaps surgeons and paramedics should ignore clinically obese people suffering heart attacks rather than risk bringing up a sensitive issue?
The other stuff is a bit more complex though, innit? I'm not sure I can have that much sympathy really, at least not specifically towards fat people. People are 'discriminated' against in the job market for image-related reasons virtually every time a vacancy opens up. Maybe interviews should be held in the dark?
You're dsicriminateing against me now, and I'm going to have to report you.
FREE EAR MUFFS FOR ALL
it makes it all the more difficult for the occassions when doctors or whatever try to suggest weight loss would be a good idea from a health perspective, because some overweight people might be in a defensive/combative frame of mind regarding weight COS of unecessary cruelty.
I this'ed anshuls comment up there but didnt add that, just because we might discriminate against something it doesnt mean that it is right or ok to express that discrimination when there is little to be gained by that or when it will merely cause hurt or embarrisment....that is sort of sadism (unless its just to big yourself up in a peer group, in which case it is probably just selfish callousness (although i accept that some peer groups can have rather compelling threats towards compliance to the groups values))
If the Muslims were to hijack a plane (again) or try to bomb London (again) I know I wouldn't want Fatty McOil sat next to me in seat 4G. The cunt would take an age to pull himself up and another millennium on top to turn around and waddle out of the cabin. We'd be so much suicide bomb fodder it's not even funny.
I say we force liposuction on people who go over a certain weight.
and how will this affect notable rotund funnymen such as John Goodman?
Goodman is a personal hero of mine so he may remain as he is.
Everyone else is fair game. We have to get Britain back on track, and we can't do that if Fryingpan Le Bon Bon is derailing trains with his obesity.
I was overweight and lost it all and maintain my weight with exercise but I still eat what I want. Anybody that claims that diet don't work for them aren't telling the whole truth, the diet works - it's their will-power that isn't. You can't compare weight to race, sexuality and gender.
being black or disabled isn't. There's a difference between being nasty or abusive and discriminating. Being nasty isn't cool, discriminating is necessary.
I discriminate every day, it helps me make better choices about people. Would I lend money to a drug addict? No. Is that discrimination? Yes, of course it is.
I'm a bit over-weight now, but I used to be massive. When I was a kid, the P.E teacher told me I wasn't getting picked for the football team because I was over-weight and therefore slow. If he wasn't allowed to do that, he wouldn't have ever given me an incentive to lay off the donuts and Seabrooks prawn cocktail crisps.
However, I think fat people parking spaces is a depressing inevitability.
maybe in some cases an inability to make a lifestyle choice? anyway, mere semantics. i basically agree with you.
i think personally attacking anyone is horrible, whatever the reason, and people should feel very small about doing it. but when it's someone in a position of knowledge and authority, passing judgement for health or safety reasons, some common sense surely has to come into play. weight-related health issues obviously place a drain on the economy, if people can learn to eat and live better, why shouldn't it be pointed out to them?
as an aside, it pisses me all the way off when someone very large sits down next to me on the bus or tube, settles into their seat and mine, and gives me hassle or rude looks about the modest portion of my own seat that i'm occupying, because they find they've wedged themselves against me.
and the odour. the hideous odour
As does their heavy breathing.
Being overweight is massively unhealthy and almost always utterly avoidable. There are a few relately rare conditions that make someone fat but these are constantly used as a general excuse in almost all cases people are fat becuase they're eating too much and exercising too little.
People being overweight should not be normalised or accepted any more than alcoholism, smoking, cocaine addition or anything that. Obviously it's mean and unpleasant to mock anyone for any of these things but laws exist to protect people already and extra laws are not needed. Asking doctors not to discuss people's weight is basically asking them to not do their job. I've had a Doctor tell me to lose weight for health reasons. I hated him for it but he was uterly fucking right to do so.
Basically this is a request from a bunch of selfish, irresponsible people who refuse to take ownership of the fact they've got themselves into a massively unhealthy state and instead try to normalise sommething that's really fucking unhealthy, and in the process encourage others that it's okay to adopt a stupid, dangerous lifestyle. If they succeed it will be a victory for idiocy.
Perfectly put :)
On the other hand, you're a white, middle class male.
Let us consider the situations of poor, dark people who have neither the education to realise the totality of how their lifestyle affects their weight, nor the financial means to rectify the matter using the healthy-living food ranges/gym membership/sports equipment that's available to the likes of you and me.
something that came up in one of the interviews was the idea that in certain afro-carribbean communities, women being fat and thus curvaceous was seen as a good thing. i'm still not sure i believe this, mind. i mean, you see fat afro-carribbean women on the tube but you see fat people of all races and backgrounds on the tube
is this an established cultural thing? or was someone just talking complete bobbins?
No, it's true. Black people love the bedonkadonk. We even wrote a song about it...
the trouble with you, stealthy, is that no-one's ever sure if you're taking the piss or not
well, taking the piss more than normal, i mean
I also seem to remember tales of at least one African tribe (and a Polynesian cousin) where the social perspective is completely flipped: A massive arse and gut is seen as the height of physical perfection. Skinny folk are bullied ruthlessly.
Look at these, my ruby-red ruby lips
actually nearly pumped.
Hell, a fat man was considered healthy, wealthy and powerful up to just a few hundred years ago in England.
Re: "healthy-living food ranges/gym membership/sports equipment"
When all's said and done, fruit & veg ain't that expensive in the grand scheme of things (McDonald's ain't cheap). Keenly priced (or free) municipal sports facilities are readily available across the country (see also: libraries for the "haven't got internet access" apologists).
Anyone who claims not to know that choosing choc bars and fry-ups over apples and pasta makes you fat (especially if you don't exercise) is probably a liar. That's pre-school stuff that everyone knows about (i.e. www.lazytown.com).
There's a mindset that goes hand in hand with poverty.
Surely it's more of a 'mental attitudes' thing than an issue of 'prices/availability' thing. Claiming it's 'prices/availability' that are the problems, means you can blame someone else rather than take responsibility.
^Tone of post does not necessarily reflect personal beliefs.
McDonalds ain't cheap, for sure. High salt, low nutrition processed Tesco value crap certainly is however. Furthermore, the education thing ties into how ready meals are going to end up winning out over creative use of cheap ingredients - I'm guilty of this trope myself.
But it actually doesn't change anything I've said.
I completely agree not everyone has the education/access to a healthier lifestyle that I do (my grandparents don't, for example) but to me that makes it all the more important people don't start sending out confusing messages that being overweight is healthy and normal, or that it's something that can't be helped. And, if people aren't getting the education from elsewhere, it's all the more important Doctors reinforce the message.
I wasn't suggesting in my post all fat people necessarily have the knowledge of how and why they should change their lifestyles but, even if they aren't aware of how their lifestyle is responsible, their lifestyle is still responsible and trying to encourage people to change their lifestyles and improve their health has to be better than denying the existence of a problem in the long-run.
so they better hurry up and magically lobby a clause into it if they want this illustrious legislation to protect them
I'd have a weight limit. If you're over the limit, you have no self control and are no good for my business so get the fuck out my office.
those fat fucks
CHEER THE FUCK UP, OR KILL YOURSELF
i'm sick of looking at your miserable fucking faces
WHY DON'T YOU JUST READ A NICE BOOK?
where we at?
All the good ones. Who is left to laugh at?