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It's amazing, possibly even better than Red Road.
it didn't blow me away so much, but i think it'll be interesting to watch it again now cos 'fish tank' is very similar to her short film 'wasp', whereas red road is very different from both of them (probably because it's the first part of The Advance Party project, where Lars von Trier told three directors that they have to make films featuring exactly the same characters)
But yeah, fish tank - i love how arnold made you think certain things were going to happen, that first sequence where he takes her to the bedroom, and you think 'noooooooo, don't do it', and you don't really know whether he's a predator/guardian etc. and then, when he carries her on his back, after they get the fish - even though its kind of obvious something is going to happen, it made me really feel for her, as its probably the first time time anyone has shown her any affection. the direction is so non-judgemental but at the same time, arnold knows how to 'implicate' the viewer.
i liked the little sister, as well - amazing actress, had a face like a 50-year old woman who's lived a hard life
some of the symbolism was a bit meh, the balloon, and the horse, but the parts that were good, were good because they were so emotionally affecting, as opposed to just beautiful to look at
also, michael fassbender - he's unbelievably hot
is it's ANOTHER gritty drama about teens in poverty. It's been done more times than the mum joke.
and danced in my bedroom when I came home
Its very referencial though (or derivative possibly)?
And oh god the symbolism is soo cack handed.
Shes a good director but I'd still rather watch the directors she is inspired by than her own films I think.
I think they're mainly in there because its looks COOL!
...for Christ's sake! If crude symbolism is so rampant in the film's title, it's not surprising that it recurs in the film via the horse, the balloon etc...
i was in tears after she went to the audition, and then monosyllabic when i left the cinema
yeah, the symbolism is a bit shit in places, but i think the scenes that worked best visually worked because they were very simple (usually the moments between fassbender and jarvis).
which lifted my heart so that might explain it.
I cried a few times in the film. Especially the penultimate scene
the penultimate scene was pretty funny, as well as sad
on the guardian website, that, even if it is a little patronising, managed to make me feel a pang of nostaligia for the views of Shell Haven, the trips to Savacentre and the train journey into Fenchurch Street.
I suppose that it's gone now...
It's on there.
are you okay?
or anything, but i took the film to be far more about the damage of emotion more than the damage from "class".
...but Arnold spends SO much time with the camera going
"Look! LOOK! IT'S A COUNCIL ESTATE! Isn't this place so WRETCHEDLY POOR? These people... they have NOTHING!"
That it's pretty much impossible to divorce it from class.
If that's what Arnold was intending then she's gone the wrong way about it sadly...
...so I can voice my views on the matter. Saw it last night and it's a deeply frustrating film. Think kissinginkansas has got it right above - it's just too "grit by numbers" and it didn't really offer anything interesting or anything fresh on the ol' social realist film making spectrum. It was just a bit of a trite rumination on "Yeah this girl's stuck here forever... feel sorry for her, please". The last shot was truly horrendous as well.
I mean... I watch a lot of films of a realist bent so maybe I'm more inclined to be more critical than most but I did think the film just wasn't good enough. Ok the grittiness was played out well and Michael Fassbender was, again, exceptional. Really exceptional. But other than that as a piece of storytelling and a piece of social commentary it was lacking. Big time.
It's a shame because Red Road was excellent for a debut - it was actually gripping (although let down, in the same way as Fish Tank is, by its central point seeming to be that "Life's really, really dreadful for some people..." and nothing else).
Arnold's still promising mind - long way to go before she joins the Loach's, Leigh's, Winterbottom's, Meadows' and Ramsey's of this world mind...