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:D :D :D
about time too. :D
just saw this on Newsnight. Very sad stuff, appalling to think that this was happening as recently as the 1950s.
shame it had to take so long but it's good to see that his treatment hasn't gone unnoticed. I'm also hoping this might mean the goverment is going to invest more in keeping bletchley park open as well.
and was a massive influence on computers and the like. I didn't know that he was convicted of being gay, chemically castrated and committed suicide two years later. Incredibly sad, the campaign/apology thing seems quite justified.
... and a wickle waspy landed on his bronze apple and crawled about for a bit.
but I think a bit of official recognition for something shameful in living memory is important.
realises that in the past it did things it shouldn't have done, makes a sort of commitment that that sort of thing won't happen again, and that they recognise the important of Turing and that what was done in the name of the British Government was wrong.
but it paves the way for further recognition without fear of being seen as hypocritical.
only took almost 400 years
except the way I read it, it's:
1. more of a recognition than an apology. Alan Turing is arguably the most important figure in modern science, considering that he basically, single-handedly invented what we recognise as the modern computer, and because of contemporary attitudes to homosexuality, he's never got the recongition that he deserved.
2. it seems to me that Brown here is apologising on behalf of the government as an organisation/is saying sorry in the sense that you say sorry to someone who has been bereaved. also, this one is WAAAAY within living memory, it's not really like apologising for the slave trade or whatever where everyone directly involved is long long dead.
you can't apologise for something before it's happened. ;)
I know what you mean though, maybe I should have rephrased it better
why wasnt an apology issued as soon as it became accepted in this country that it is not good to discriminate against orientation?
Or if its cos all of the bletchley park stuff hadnt been revealed to the public at that point, then why didnt they apologise as soon as it was and Alan Turing's work was revealed to the public.
It might be nice if enthisiastic prosecuters/persecutors of men who were prosecuted for being gay would like to issue personal apologies for persecuting people cos of their predjudices.
and he needs some home goals right now, even if they are only tap ins
Campaigned for the apology, and then said "Singling out Turing just because he is famous is wrong".
Ain't no pleasing him!
as the Porn Wall is rolled out.
we morally judge other countries for their dated beliefs (Russia recently for example) when it's taken us over sixty years to pardon a national hero.
Chemically castrated, ffs. You know i'm not one to get overly offended by news stuff, but jfc. Disgusting.
This "national hero" tag also makes me feel a little uneasy. Granted, the man had a brilliant mind, but national hero? No.
Being recognised for your neediness doesn't require 365 levels of commitment. We'll still remember you in a couple of days or so.
I had absolutely nothing to do with Alan Turings abhorrent treatement.
Happy to judge 'our' past and present too. National pride is not a default or unchallengeable.
I don't like the term 'pardon', like he was at fault and has been excused especially as it comes under 'Royal Prerogative of Mercy'. Think it would be better in terms like nullify to recongnise he
But the whole story enrages me so much it's tough to get past that.