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we started out friends
Good shout, I'd have to think about that though.
A google shows it's by Jeremy Clarkson's daughter so it's DEFINITELY shit.
So listening to a YouTube of it now I'd have to say I don't think I've heard it before.
That said it sounds like a rip-off of two or three better songs so it's difficult to be entirely accurate.
It's really fucking bland, though.
they want a word.
to prove the rule.
not amazing, but alright
he's still pretty "respected" and a big seller. Shame his music is incredibly dull.
These acts get massive country-wide noteriety and then drop off the radar to a large amount which is surely the definition of not following up.
Most acts do, though. That big first album then quietly dropped after the difficult second album... I guess I don't have a point here. Sorry. :D
but it's levelled off at a kind of "mums' favourite" level. okay he never went on to become the next george michael but he's on a par, with, say, gabrielle or someone like that.
She says Prince is going bitchslap you.
but it made me laugh anyway.
Whitney Houston called, she says Bobby Brown is going to pull shit out of your arse.
i'm sure she released some ballands and shit and then bettered it
Unless the previous album was some out of tune wailing over someone thrashing a triangle.
it's disposable pop, but it's quite good for it's genre. See also 'Bleeding Love'.
Talk about damning with faint praise. It's just dull and for me that's really nothing great in a song. Surely disposable pop is stuff like Trouble by Shampoo, massively catchy but never going to make your Desert Island Discs or something.
along with most of Supergrass's back catalogue and a lot of stuff by Fountains of Wayne and Silversun... but I love all those bands!
I'm not like those people this-ing down there. I don't love this song. I don't think it's terrible. It's alright.
Supergrass and Blur have both done some bland stuff in their time too. That stuff wouldn't be listed as 'disposable pop'. I'm disagreeing with your placing of the song into a pool it doesn't belong.
It's just MOR dullness. It has nothing to lift it up, no great hook or anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyzthMow7vc Now THAT'S a tune.
fountains of wayne have more than one song?
care to recommend me some?
bright future in sales
and loads more
i have absolutely no idea why.
fuck the haters.
All I heard was some utterly AOR rock blandness...
but on the other hand, if you can't tell the difference between Kelly Clarkson, who has a great voice, and Chad Kroeger, who sings like he's being bumraped backwards, I'm afraid there's not much hope for you.
I'd say 'This Is How You Remind Me' is a much better song, that's all.
Can we take stock here?
'This Is How You Remind Me' is better than one of the greatest singles of the past five years?
Do you have brain AIDS?
because this is the point at which I realised Theo was just trolling.
I'm not trolling. I'd genuinely take that Nickelback one over this Kelly Clarkson.
though I'll admit I listened the Clarkson one again and it was better than I remembered.
it's built on the sparse 80s post punk stuff that dominated most indie music coming out of the earlier half of this decade, coupled with the 90s alternative rock stuff that currently being aped by nearly every hyped band around at the moment.
Also - every Nickelback song uses the same four chords, looped endlessly, either quiet or loud, with usually the same melody looped over it too. No comparison with this song whatsoever.
Like I said above, Shakira's Don't Bother is a similar sounding song to me but miles better.
This Kelly Clarkson one, yeah well I can hear how they've tried to shoehorn in the drum sounds of She's Lost Control and so forth, but the result just sounds like boring AOR to me. I don't hear anything special, though at least she hasn't got a vocoder on her voice, which would be more in keeping with the style she's apeing.
Any reference to those periods is simply a result of referencing stuff that references them in turn.
is an idiot.
but not by Rainbow, sadly.
I think, secretly, you love this. All those wonderful endless variations in the melody, all totally connected and accessible, the delightful shift half way through the verse providing a nice subtle rise towards the chorus, and then, BOOM!, a chorus that sounds like Nirvana only with twice as many melodic variations and a singer more than capable of keeping on top of them, a sublime E minor shift in the third bar , and then that triumphant YEAH YEAH!, every line a different, perfect little melody... admittedly the structure's a little generic but a chorus that steals from Nirvana, following a verse whose sound is more or less stolen from Joy Division, is really dynamic in a way a lot of modern pop isn't. I could go on for pages. You're missing out.
Well, not *respect* but something.
Though I really don't like The Killers and find The Strokes really boring.
I just think describing it in terms of Nirvana and Joy Division is about as accurate as describing it in terms of The Beach Boys and Led Zeppelin.
you completely, totally love this song, don't you? You're just making stuff up now. In what way do two sparse sounding plucked strings not resemble Joy Division? It's all that useless cunt Peter Hook ever figured out how to do. And how does a distorted guitar playing bright chords in a rythmic strum ripped from most of K records' output not sound like Nirvana? They even included a few muted harmonic chugs at the start, just to let you know. That said, there's no way Kurt Cobain could have pulled off an Am> Em> Dmaj/F# >Asus2 chord progression though. I'll give you that.
Obviously both bands are influences on the sound we're talking about but the song owes way more to recent bands. I don't think it has much in common with Nirvana and Joy Division, certainly I wouldn't pull them out of a hat to cite why I liked a song.
That said I'm assuming you're just taking the piss with this over complex analysis so I probably shouldn't even be replying. :D
I'm generally never so smug about music, there's very little I understand really. I just never realised how much I liked about this song until I started arguing about it. I'm just content that we've both taken the time to really get to grips with Kelly Clarkson's music. Incidentally whenever I hear My Life Would Suck Without You I always start singing the words to Regret over the top of it, so I'm almost certainly right about everything I've said.
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it's utter boateng
I'm genuinely surprised that such a non-special song is getting so much love.
Ah, music, how you divide us.
Surely people don't so much dance as sing along and nod their head.
I wouldn't have said that's a bland song, though. I don't like Baby One More Time particularly but it's not a song I would call bland and I can totally see why people get into it. This Kelly Clarkson song just sounds so tired and uninteresting...
yourself. I know and you know and that's all that really matters.
i go CUH-RAY-ZAY
I also love that 'Battlefield' song by Jordin Sparks.
Tell me you like that JLS song too and it's a date.
on the last Girl Talk album where he mixes the vocals from this with bits of Wish by Nine Inch Nails :D
At the start everyone was like "What? Boo!"
By the end EVERYONE was singing along
we end up fighting over who gets to play it.
The loser gets 99 Problems.
i love this song so so so so much
i can't believe how underrated 'hot n cold' is in katy's work
is that it's so wholesome. Katy Perry is nothing like that.
Taylor Swift, maybe.
but it sounds like something else and I can't put my finger on what, so it annoys me.
but it really does it for me. it reaches the same emotional heights as 'since u been gone'
also, she has followed it up with some (maybe not as good as) pretty good songs.
her new one may sound like Beyonces Halo but that's not her fault.
i saw her live, and she was fucking amazing.
the perfect pop song
because that is a completely meaningless statement. I suppose I should have said "perfect song".
and Because of You. Look how good she is at singing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFKBhV9CGlE
and the bit were I said that Theo had 'brain AIDS'.
It came out in 2004, so it's now one of the greatest singles of the past seven years.
its amazing that i have read most of this thread and still not figured it out