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Whilst we draw as much attention to it as possible!
or something more literate.
although why any of you would click on a jpg link posted by a user called "Fred-West" is beyond me
a picture of a kid with their top off is not offensive. It's only (arguably) an inappropriate public image because of paedophiles, and i'm fairly sure that none of those operate on DiS. Apart from the ones seeking out pasty, feminine, thin wristed indie boys, but they're well catered for as it is
it's all about the context of the post you fucking donut
because it's a photo of someone's child where they haven't given authorisation.
But, seriously, the image itself? Would you think twice about a young girl or boy walking in summer without a top on? At what age does it become or stop being inappropriate. It's kind of very stupid. People who get "omg!" other things like this make me pretty concerned though.
just clicked on the link and saw the post.
Which is fair enough, seeing as I can't really accuse them of not reading properly.
It's inappropriate in that thread, but how the hell could it get shutdown? There's not anything illegal about topless children....
Also...no consent from the parents...inciting distribution...etc. etc.
they're not going to shut the site down...
It's not the photo in question. It's just a typical family snap. It's the fact that they've exploited it for a paedo gag.....an unwilling participant in sordid little laughter. Imagine if that was your fucking daughter? It actually infuriates me.
the point at which a jokey riff on peadophilia gets narrowed to a specific picture is time to give it a miss i rekon....generalising with humor like this...whatever, that's completely different....using a specific picture of an unknown kid is just really fucking depressing with no gag potential at all...
Many different shades of despicable
if someone said "this girl is hot" and posted a picture of a random fully clothed child? What about if someone said the same thing and posted a picture of a baby in a nappy? What about if someone posted a picture of Maddy and said something of that ilk? Because plenty of those flew under the radar around that time.
Dunno chief, it just seems like this has been picked out because of the actual content of the picture, and its arguably sensitive nature.
Never target individual children
of the others you might say "unfunny twat" and move on, instead of calling for it to be deleted. If you call for every child specified paedophilia joke from now on to be banned, including any relating to celebrity children, then i'll know you mean business. If you do the same for anything vaguely distasteful said in relation to an individual child then i'll know it for sure.
Ahh.. petty detail obsessed arguments. This is living
I would be furious if I was a parent. We'll talk when you bring little 'uns into the world.
And don't think this is right wing moral outrage. This is completely justified. And you're taking that left field stance to a ridiculous conclusion.
i'd probably post "arsehole" below then go read something else. Which is pretty much what i do now, in my non-parent form, to pretty much everything i read on the internet.
If your reply still applies...god bless your children.
blessed with sexy, sexy bodies
i'm not sure why it feels worse than maddie gags, it just does. she's become a media construct, as awful as that is, you don't even feel like you're commenting on a child, it's a comment on a cultural mindset almost with maddy gags, so i'd not call or those to be taken off...
'it just seems like this has been picked out because of the actual content of the picture, and its arguably sensitive nature'
....exactly....where's the problem with this?.......there was something particularly hollow about seeing this specific picture in that specific context.....i can't see why that means less validation for it to be taken down....the picture is just too...i dunno...personal, if you like....it isn't some generic pic...it felt plucked off a kitchen wall...just something really hollow and depressing about it all
but it's really something more textural and nebulous than flat out, unanimous offensiveness. To me, the only thing that marks it out as more personal or unkosher is the fact that she's topless, which is possibly a contemporary concern, a modern social construct rather than an absolute.
Besides, i think we're missing the most important thing here: the thread was about sunbathing and she was CLEARLY inside. That's what we should be getting up in arms about
i just wrote a 200 odd word retort and it didn't post...so basically....it was just particularly crass attempt at humour with a particularly sensitive picture which lead to a particularly fetid stench hanging in the air.......as simple as that.
but if we all sat around agreeing and accepting and stroking each other's bumholes then DiS wouldn't be a very interesting place
...but still...we hang on like divorcee's.
but sure, yours works as well
You are a parent, no? Thought you had a son?
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Puerile and brilliant
Who are the couple of people with him, though? Recognise a couple of faces... Must've vanished pretty quick after that, though.
This furore pales in comparison
makes all the difference
all above board
what happened about that? what was the video like? did you feel just a little aroused? details please
I didn't see the video. My mate only saw the first few seconds before he realised what it was.....just grainy recorded footage of some bloke sticking his dick in the face of a dead girl.
This is something that consoles me. Meanwhile, enjoy being an utter bell. :D
There's nothing wrong with that picture, yeah? It's just a photo of a kid. You'd have to be the sort of person who thinks Nonce-Sense is real and worries about their keyboard smelling of hammers to take offence at that.
Maybe it's zany comedy except zany comedy should be funny rather than achingly dull and lifeless. He's like the human form of Analyze That.
it's the context.
even pocketmouse objected for gods sakes
Nah, I don't really take them seriously, sorry. They're through the lens of pack mentality.
And PocketMouse objects to frozen bread...oh wait now YOU'RE taking piss. Good work. :D
a large amount of DiS content is inappropriate. If I could get everything I found "inappropriate" deleted on DiS, we'd be left with a football thread and a few questions about computers. I'm certainly not advocating it. You don't have to spend long on DiS to work out what the boundaries are (i.e. there aren't really any). So if you're going to continue to use the site accept it, or else find a different one.
The point is that people on here are civilised and don't cross them. Check out /b/ or whatever it is on 4chan if you want to see what 'no boundaries' actually is.
Look, I would delete it if the individual post thing hadn't broken so I can only delete the whole thread.
The reason I would is because it's a picture of someone's child used without permission and that's all. There's nothing inappropriate about the joke. It's not massively amusing and it's not exactly tasteful but it has fuck all to do with paedophilia or any other reactionary shit that TheDailyBumbler_w is trying to imply. At the time it didn't even raise many eyebrows. This thread is the equivalent of the backlash raised against a minor radio show when the daily newspapers complain about something lewd only heard by 100 insomniacs and night workers.
I have pictures of us together. Take your Catholic bowl cut, your ''sickly gay swigging Sailor Jerry's while he shoots the muscle men with his spastic eyes'' red shirt and your nob arms....and go on a lovely holiday.
...girls like vile.
Michael_w and TheDailyBumbler are the same person, right?
You really should expose them as being the same person!
(I can see why he does it, this is fun!)
He's hit the nail on the head there, spot on!
Is manbearpig your third account?
he's a troll! they're both the same person! he doesn't exist!
If it isn't Everett True it's kik, or something else or something else.
Be at peace my son.
you're interpreting text. i'm sitting with my feet up at the moment
people interpreting text.
have a lie down
i had an argument with kik? and everett true? not many people can say that. i'm not generally indignant on here, i was more amused at people suggesting the bumbler and michael w were the same.
i'll use more smiley faces in future ))))) * not indignant
on trains, walking on pavements, in the supermarket and generally wherever people are and sometimes where they're not.
We all thought smee was meths at first, just using a new identity.
Fact is the two of them post about the same sort of stuff in an almost identical way. And they either go out of their way to be 'controversial' or it's just a knack they have. The idea that it could happen is hardly unique, confined to the 'day shift'.
You know for a fact that we're seperate people
...and we're part of the stock.
I mean really it's not.
(Too retarded; didn't read.)
You know full well I don't join in the Bamnan hate but I could barely understand what you wrote there let alone the point of it.
If something I said had not actually been true then blahblahblah. But it WAS true, eh?
People spouting off about stuff they don't truly understand.
The use of the picture left a bad taste in my mouth...and I'm baffled it didn't do the same for the rest of you.
Nothing. You generally evoke nothing.
We can agree on this point at least.
since i've copied the picture onto my harddrive now anyway and i'll be uploading my floppy later
...what did you type into Google to find that image?
oh theo.....let's talk shall we
''The reason I would is because it's a picture of someone's child used without permission and that's all. There's nothing inappropriate about the joke. It's not massively amusing and it's not exactly tasteful but it has fuck all to do with paedophilia or any other reactionary shit that TheDailyBumbler_w is trying to imply''
i think...as always.....you haven't actually bothered to read what i've said and just taken the chew toy and danced along your merry way with it....
the only thing i'll take back about this whole thing is asking for it to be taken down because obviously that wouldn't solve anything and is pretty pointless.....but as for the awfulness of the post.....i stand by my thoughts on that....you're silly, silly boys looking to twease out any sort of gag to tell tommy from i.t in the morning.....just so so so boring and so depressing....i wasn't making sweeping statements about morality and peadophilia....we're not in a philosophy lecture trying to pick out the underlying truth that solves it all.......as i said, pure and simple...crass post...very depressing picture to use.....fetid stench in the air.....more dis bore merchants come off looking like the tired, dull little mock the week wannabies that they are......theo....you're 30 summit....i mean fuck...give it up man....just move on...you should be thinking about a family yourself, not banging on about how there is nothing 'reactionary' about this childs picture. serious theo....if i post you a fiver will you spend it on looking for a wife?...a nice bow tie or summit...box of mint matchsticks....you'll be away.
Seriously...30? I had no idea. It's achingly pathetic.
Irony? Meh, who knows.
didn't you say that once you hit 19 we are all in the same boat together?
There are plenty of contradictions in my beliefs
He didn't start the discussion, he's a mod responding to a thread addressing the mods.
What is he doing dragging his feet round an internet forum at that age. I know 30 year olds who are knee deep in family and wouldn't give this sort of shit a second glance.
I'm 32 and I still post here when I can, it helps the working day go by. I have no kids and have no desire to have any.
I'm going for lunch.
Now I know why your trailing behind Theo, throwing stones when you can.
where did i say that he started the discussion.....he gave his view and i retorted
i thought he got all upset and stopped being a mod?
i take back any sentiments about it being taken down
but have you not heard of hitting reply in the pm instead?
He's on our fucking side
Oh dear god, I forgot it was the summer holidays!
good old playground tactics. no thanks! there was no spite in that at all, it just seems ridiculous to actually copy paste content of a PRIVATE MESSAGE onto a social board, for all to see. What reaction did he/whoever EXPECT to get from that? It's textook schoolboy behavior - and made him look a bit of a twat really, regardless of what this whole thing was about in the first place.
Go feed your kid
feed your other personas. I think Michael is hungry. I feel sorry for you.
There's no need for hyperbole.
it clearly says it at the top of the thread....have a proper read lovey
(and I mean the sweetness of a peach, not Peaches Geldof...she's full of lake sewage)
that from a PM. I still think you're resorting to playground tactics. Sticks n stones. Oh well.
read the thread......i only waded in after my name was brought into the mix
You made an assumption based on nothing and now you look like a dense twat. Admit when you were wrong and you'll be halfway towards salvation.
Angry much, Liam? I already did that. Just up there^, see?
I meant to this that below.
You get wound up by things that aren't even vaguely nasty and then you come out with a whole load of spiteful crap that might have actually upset someone if you were both in the playground but you and Liam should be old enough to know better.
This is how we know that if there's one or two of you, you're both a pair of trolling numpties and that's why we don't give a shit about what you think.
Just look at your last few lines above. I think I can just about make out that you and your alternate guise/bezza mate of Liam are again trying to imply that somehow I'm a sad man who just needs to get out and meet some women. Which I'm pretty sure the rest of the Social board's users find as baffling and amusingly misguided as I do.
I think you've come unstuck.
Why are you here? Where is your family?
sneering at a person posting a lot of nonsense on an internet forum
He stuck the knife in and deflated both our bouncy castles. Well done splitterwill for putting things in perspective.
I've just ruined this by replying haven't i...
lot of that going around lately
they lost me with the pointless ageism there. oh well.
Don't glue yourself to this sort of thing when you clearly havn't structured your life.
I'm so sorry for protecting a childs innocence. Next time I'll drag her out into the town square and bruise every orifice.
I'm bowing out knowing full well I've won.
he goes for my talking crap...i call him old and boring
speaking as a fan of your work in general. and the bumbler.
i'll have to take back your michael_w rosette and your memberships cards if that's really how you feel.
we each have our flaws
I'd be fascinated to see it.
(In the background): http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v198/238/72/654120598/n654120598_2521681_4165.jpg
I'm bowing out knowing full well I won.
and then add it on at the end there to make sure that everyone saw it and knows that you definitely won?
btw. noone came out the winner, both just unnecessarily sullied their names in a pointless internet bitch-off about a non-issue. the real issue is whether its ok to wank over pictures of yourself as a kid
as if me and the bumbler haven't spouted off before...we don't have a reputation to upkeep...your making it seem like quiet alan from accounts who got his cock out at the christmas do.....anyway....i stand by my comments and i don't think anything too mallicious was said,...
boils down to "Ha ha, you have a job, you loser!"
i wasn't exactly going for the jugular so why did you get on your high horse....and i didn't mention a job anywhere so have a proper read mahone...the harshest thing i said was....'you're too old to be on a forum talking bollocks'.....in a way i was asking him to focus on his job more
i dunno....does he bring you copies of hello and ok and chat to keep you in interesting thoughts and opinions?
I don't know...
i truly am lost
I'm not on a high horse, by the way. I'm laughing at you from a seated position.
start making sense mahone
you're being nonsensical in your witterings by not saying anything to the point....it's madness by it's absence...there is no point being made but you keep going
come and blow rasberries but don't dress it up as making any sort of point
have 43 mutual friends on facebook.
That is more than I expected. We only have 40...
What's the point of this?
All this talk of you led me to look at your facebook page.
The current leader is Claire with 52, but I can't be bothered to look through them all.
Shouldn't you be at home with your family or something?
i might have got you wrong. we can be mates if you want.
entertained me for at least 90 second.
I like Tennis. That is all I have to say.
has anyone picked up on the flagrant apostrophe abuse in the title of this thread though? That could certainly do with flagging up to the grammar police.
i've been offline all day, why did no-one send me a PM about this?!?!
I'm glad you agree
and it's a spectacular non-problem.
none of us would get any work done
It would be a good way of warning my nephews
Unfortunately I am actually one, legally. Convicted and everything... it's not nice.
More importantly though I've just observed that Theo has THE most unenviable, thankless and impossible task I could imagine. And, you know what, he does alright. Hats off.
I don't know what is is about the internet that brings out the most obscene, blithering idiocy in a section of its users but... seriously. It happens everywhere and it's hilarious.
Behave kids and you won't HAVE a moderator telling you when you're acting like an absolute spoon. Behave. Please, behave.
My t'pence is over. Ta.
Why are you convicted? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt....but if it's because of some truly nefarious activity, you better bow out. Because, if you hugged the air out of an entire play pen...you havn't got the right to talk, type or wave.
A joke... a joke.
No-one was harmed in the making of that joke.
Behave... and I really do mean, behave please. Thanks.
So it can't really be tagged as a ''joke''.
I can deal with most things in life. Obscenity? Rudeness? Evil? Hatred? They're all fine.
Idiocy, however, I cannot.
You're a good man.
They said a used a specific family snap and robbed it of its innocence. Take your left wing flag waving elsewhere.
'left wing' or not really has fuck all to do with this
State your case.
so i didn't even check to see what it was yesterday while i was in work. then i was reminded later and like most normal people would, i realised that it was a joke, the kind that are made on the internet and on this very site pretty much continuously, and as such that people who were getting upset about it were being pretty stupid. and then i had a wank.
What would you do?
Was it through Google image? Facebook?
I mean, posting that either proves you're a troll or a moron or both.
she might have been preparing herself for a long career in the bush administration
Or sending arms to Palestine.
Yeah. We're satire.
Body of post referring to an earlier post in this very thread, either agreeing wholeheartedly or disagreeing vehemently with what was said.
Very specific point about the person that made that post.
One-liner in an attempt to indicate that although I've posted, I'm actually totally not fazed by it all
One liner to show I'm actually less fazed about this than you.
sean has spoken.
so I assume that's what happened.
Well done for deleting it
I for one will never trust a word the man says, and feel that you have been totally vindicated by this one action that I'm sure he explained he would do if he could but not for the reasons that you wanted it done.
I deleted it because of this thread making it worthless to keep. Because people who's opinions are valued far more than yours PM'd me and said it was used without permission so it should probably be taken down.
I'm still not really 100% sure there was anything wrong with it but it's usually easier to bow to the will of a pigshit-thick mob than try to stand your ground.
See you later.
not that i thought there was any point in deleting it....but if sean wants it down or whatever
i might be being really stupid but it's available to see at the top of this thread posted by aeromuffin......now you look stupid
apparantly you've been asked to take the links to the picture of the girl down....there is still a link to said picture at the top of this thread...the actual blog where the picture is found...if you dont need to delete it and it's fine staying there, then i'm a silly sausage....but if you do...you look very silly now
but you said you had to take it down...'because it was used without permission'....so....i think i was doing the right thing to point it out.....
The joke certainly wasn't. I got PMs from other users to say they felt that way and this fucking trainwreck of thread meant I had to get rid of it and ultimately that I had to ban your mate the Bumbler.
A link to a blog where someone has posted pictures of their kids isn't really an issue that I can see. The owner of the picture didn't directly message me to have the joke post taken down - I never said they did.
I will use moderate language but will concisely state my position.
It will be the definitive post and will settle the debate once and for all. It will make concession to both sides of the argument but will also soberly make a mature and informed judgement. This should be the last post in the thread though I will permit a handful of "^this"'s.
Perhaps people will link to this post when the matter arises in future debate.
I hope this settles the matter.
it's in the wrong place.
This is a disaster.
I haven't deleted anything.
This one? http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4192306#r4782039