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Or are they just on maps?
"Pentonville? You mean you live in Kings Cross, right?"
Mind you, my favourite euphemism for that 'hood is Penton Vale.
It was always pretty impressive that starting from either Holloway or Kings Cross you would actually have to through somewhere WORSE to connect the two.
Don't diss THE V
I was surprised to being informed by an article in a pub window from 2004 last night that locals apparently refered to Shoreditch as "Soho East".
I have never heard anyone call it that ever
But not really any of the other ones. I suppose my place is in what would be called Pentonville or failing that it's Lower Holloway. Still, I like to pretend it's Islington. For certain it is part of THE V
It's not N7, is it?
Although the prison is only a stones throw away so I'm wondering if the area around the prison is also refered to as Pentonville
over the road junctions by Angel station.
those tend to be pretty classicist - St Pancras over the area referred to now as King's Cross etc.
but that may be because I don't know any Russian oil tycoons.
I would call it that all the time, and cast scorn on anyone who dared try to call it "Noho" grrrr
I could almost understand if it was north of Soho, but that doesn't make any sense.
Sosho (SOuth SHOreditch) is another rubbish one which didn't catch on, apart from in the name of that bar.
is sometimes referred to as 'Noho'
I always get Belgravia and Fitzrovia muddled up
Well, that makes a bit more sense. Fitzrovia is a great name for an area, though. I don't know why anyone would want to use a different one.
and then they went bust
Fitzrovia and Belgravia. I wish people still used Lissom Grove too [the bit near Marylebone].
Anything that is made to sound like Soho is dreadful. My old area, for a while, was beset by terrible cunts wanting to call it SoBo, for 'South of Borough'. NO! It's Bermondsey. Wankers. This is what happens when marketing executives, stylists and property developers get a say in things. Down with this sort of thing!
The adverts for property in "Midtown" (Holborn) can get to fuck as well.
i was reading some website the other day that kept referring to Midtown. like that. Midtown. MIDTOWN. Midtown rents are higher than the West End! Midtown has a lower office vacancey rate than The City. MIDTOWN
i've come across is in San Francisco.
Nob Hill is a posh area. it's next to the Tenderloin, which is a scummy working class area. the border area between the two began to gentrify, right, and estate agents in the area began to call it... (The) Tendernob.
streetmap shows Newington as being south of The Borough, and Bermondsey being to the east ;)
it's not that much of a historical name (dates to the interwar period) nor appears in any of the local government wards of the area concerned.
Traditionally, Soho was used to cover a wider area spreading north – so Fitzrovia would have been part of Soho – but nowadays it's almost always used for the bit south of Oxford Street.
the camden part is in the Bloomsbury ward, and the Westminster part in Marylebone ward. poor fitzrovia, no identity of it's own :D
I thought Soho in London wasn't a shortening of South anything like it is in NY.
Wiki claims: Most authorities believe that the name derives from a former hunting cry.
That's why it's weird that people might be following NYC's (later) example which refers to NOrth of HOuston St / SOuth of HOuston St. I do like those Nolita/Tribeca-style names, though. I think my favourite is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUMBO
Anyway, Noho in New York is nothing like Belgravia, so that can't be it.
We don't have enough of that sort of shit over here.
In an awful kind of way
who'd come in and watch football but not buy a drink. Got right on my tits.
It should be illegal
All the pubs on Kingsland High St look like charming establishments, The Railway being a highlight.
The Railway on Kingsland High St has a sign on the door saying "During the football, we only serve pints" - which is perplexing as they don't have a telly
Maybe there's an alarm that goes off at 3pm on a Saturday and again at quarter to five. And you'd go up there at five to five and go "Thank God, now I can get a Smirnoff Ice" and the barman would reply "Sorry mate, injury time".
and sunday evening spanish football?
but it never seems to be open any more. Maybe it is going to get "gentrified".
it's quiet. There aren't too many other options round there though. That pub opposite that got shut was much better.
I heard bellowing techno music coming from it the weekend before last.
lots and lots
I never say this to people, though, because they'd think I meant Finsbury Park.
although Clerkenwell used to be a parish in the borough of Finsbury. I like how Google Maps sits on the fence:
was built on an area previously called Cripplegate.
it is nice! it's just like everywhere else south of london fields.
and a lot of kids i went to school with lived round there, and they referred to their "yard" being haggerston, so yes.
i grew up right near pentonville prison, and no one i know has ever used the name pentonville unless they are referring to the prison. same goes for the others, never heard them used before.