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1) Out Cold
cinderella man is one of the best boxing films.
but everyone I know thinks it's shit
The Cable Guy
Plus it made me want to go to Medieval Times, which, unfortunately, I did.
Jim Carrey is the man.
The Cat Returns
I am useless with films, only having seen about 3 (slight exaggeration)
Most that I've seen give an opinion on it anyway
His best film I think
Let's just name Steve Martin films!
I really like The Jerk but when it was on the TV (again) at xmas I had to turn it off before the end because it was so stupid.
it's a great film.
Although, no one can ever really back up the argument. All I hear is "DERS NO STORY! AN AN IS SHIT!!"
It's like, my favourite film ever.
an an is shit for sure
I like this disgraceful Vinnie Jones vehicle
MY argument against Cloverfield is the characters are utterly unlikeable and the story is like a third rate pulp romance novel written by soap opera writers...Which is bad enough but it's actually a monster movie and you don't see the goddamn monster.
It's hardly T-Rex and the velociraptors ripping ten shades of shit out of everyone down on Jurassic Park, is it?
the worst horror/monster type films are those where thye spunk their load on showing you the creature too soon. It's the whole Jaws thing; if Spielberg had carried out his original vision of 'MAN LOOK AT THIS AWESOME BIG SHAAAARK' all the way through as planned (only changed due to budget constraints) it would have been rubbish. JP was a little different; the effects were novel enough to keep us interested all the way through. Going back to it now, it's not quite as tense as I remember (and it's more restrained with all the dino-snuff-porn than I remember too)
This was one like Godzilla. Jaws worked by creating a likeable cast of characters and presenting them as the only ones who believed in the threat in a world where politics was more important than human lives.
Godzilla works by you enjoying watching a bunch of cunts getting sicked on by a massive creature as it destroys a well-known city. For this to work properly you need to see the fucker chowing down on buildings and people, rather than watch a plot and characters that wouldn't look out of place in a porn movie, so badly written, directed and played they are.
It might share the idea of a big monster destroying a city, but it isn't about a big monster destroying a city. It's about some people trying to escape from a big monster destroying a city. It's a disaster account, where the disaster happens to be a big monster.
It's a bit like saying Braindead and Dawn of the Dead are comparable because they've both got zombies in. The whole selling point of the film is that it's a ground-level account of an unthinkable event. Not liking the cast and script is fair enough; but maintaining the tension by keeping the creature largely obscured throughout was a very effective and canny move (I thought).
And I'm taking issue with two more points: that the appeal of Jaws was anything but tension, and that Godzilla worked. Godzilla would be the ultimate answer to this thread!
I said why it worked, because we had the age old thing where we and the lead character know what's going on but other people refuse to believe them.
Look, let's not bring Jaws, fundamentally one of the greatest movies ever made, into a discussion about a b-movie about a monster attacking New York. Cloverfield couldn't hold a candle to Spielberg's masterpiece for all kinds of reasons: cast, script, music, direction, characters...
Cloverfield fails for me precisely because it doesn't know what it is. If it was meant to be the sort of film you describe then it failed too because the characters weren't remotely engaging and the set up was so hokey.
The idea you describe is an interesting one except it doesn't make sense because while we all know what a natural disaster is, we don't know what the Cloverfield creature is so we are drawn to know more about it and so it can never be just a backdrop to make a human drama to. What you get is an idea like one of those episodes in a TV show where a news crew comes in and the main characters are suddenly seen as minor players that we glimpse briefly...the point being that we know their true significance; if we didn't the 'joke' would be lost. As such, the 'joke' in Cloverfield completely misses it's mark and we find ourselves bored shitless with the supporting cast while the main character goes off and does shit.
for me, the only appeal of Jaws is tension. I found everything else about it - plot, characterisation - secondary to the gradual building of tension.
But yes, I'd have said Cloverfield knew exactly what it was: it's pleasingly simple. (And more akin to United 93 than Godzilla) Some people are at a party, something bad happens and they have to escape (while trying to save someone else on the way). I could deal with the characters being obnoxious; panic makes people obnoxious, and I thought it was a pretty brave move not to make them act too heroic or even likeable.
But the main point here is whether the film is worse for mostly keeping the monster under wraps throughout. I think what you're saying about the Cloverfield monster (that it being interesting and hidden draws our focus towards it) is pretty much what makes it great for me; the film is a long, slow prick-tease with a great, spurting money-shot at the end. It's just habituation: the more you show me something, the less scary I'm going to find it. Alien Resurrection (and the AvP films) are the prime suspects here: the aliens themselves are stripped of so much of their menace that by the end you have to have a different 'big bad' brought in. Sure, I'm interested in what the monster is, and that's what made watch it in the first place, but the feeling of panic and desperation throughout was what stayed with me after it had finished. If I wanted plot, I could get that elsewhere..
In its case it accepts we know all we can on the way to make a tense, scary movie with a Xenomorph in and throws the manual out the window.
Characters don't have to be heroic or even likeable in reality. Alien is a good example of a bunch of back biting bastards but you love them because they're so nicely portrayed.
Fundamentally if you're calling writing characters straight out of shit like Dawson's Creek 'brave' you've missed the fact that the writers were simply shit at writing that stuff. They didn't set out to make sub-soap opera stuff, I'm sure.
I also think if you reckon the only appeal of Jaws is tension then you can't have watched it more than maybe once or twice, because after that there isn't much tension left. There IS a great story though.
And Robert Shaw is IN Jaws!
so so misunderstood
Seems everyone above has gone into essay mode. I'm just gonna stick with "I like it"
And Jeepers Creepers 2.
I have the US edition of Frequency and in the commentary the writer says he had a different ending that wasn't actually impossible logically but he didn't explain what it was. :(
Waterworld (its one of my favourites)
Crappy Teen comedies (that i like)-
Strangely I thought about doing a thread like this this morning when I saw a guy wearing a Teen Wolf t-shirt and thought, "Why do people like a movie that's so bland?"
was the first film I saw with breasts in it.
It wasn't the first film I saw that had a woman in it.
I mean i've never met someone who disliked it.
The second and third Matrix films
Or the MST3K version?
Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen
it's one of my favourites - must be one of the best films about being in a band
directed by Tom Hanks as well!
That's right folks I like Kevin Costner!!
p.s. I am mad!
war of the worlds.
that second x files film they did.
I like all the rubbish Morecambe & Wise films.
Also, I like 'Juno' and 'Garden State'.
Loved it. Everyone else I know seemed to despise it. Shame.
Nuked everything at the end. Just for that there is some love for the film
Amazing! Have it on dvd, create piece of British cinema.........
and life aquatic