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It's like 'post' and 'posted'.
Also, OH THEO. You'd done this one already, haven't you?
Also, I didn't start a thread about it.
I'm not going to argue against that because it makes perfect sense.
Post was once also only a noun, I would imagine.
You would never say, "I post a letter to you last week," would you? Well maybe *you* would but you'd sound like English wasn't your first language.
Yeah you'd say "I sent you some post last week," but then post is a noun not a verb.
According to the Concise English Dictionary I use at work (which admittedly is two years old and may have been revised slightly), texted isn't a word and so makes about as much sense as using text as a verb. To be correct, you'd have to say something like "I sent a text message to such and such", and that's just a bit long-winded really.
Language moves faster than dictionaries but there are rules to English which should be obeyed when constructing new words. Otherwise you may as well say the plural of 'text' is 'texty'.
which hasn't been repeatedly broken during the ongoing development of the English language.
Besides which, even though adding the suffix 'ed' to a verb usually creates the past tense, even that is a steadfast rule. There are plenty of irregular verbs.
Isn't this fun? I'm having fun.
These things tend to have obvious reasons behind them, they're not just random events.
This is fun, you're right. I don't know why Jack_ill-humour can't see that.
I bet all the text messages you send are in full English with the appropriate grammar and punctuation, aren't they? Mine are.
It's not hard, though: 36618 = don't on my Sony-Ericsson via predictive texting.
Sleep and Weep (as opposed to Peep and Seep)
Fall (as opposed to Call)
Catch (as opposed to Match)
Burst (as opposed to... er... Durst?)
Just for fun...
We're talking about modern English usage here and I don't think we have irregular usages being created now that English is a set language compared to mix of French/Saxon/whatever tongues that it grew from.
And I'd like to point out sleep, weep, peep, seep, fall, call, catch and match ALL have separate past tense forms. The examples given below of set and put are more germane to the point of this thread.
see also: google and googled, facebook and facebooked.
but not Twittered, that should be "twat". "i just twat john back"
Does anything we discuss really matter?
Theo you've mispelt and seemingly made up you're own words loads of times on here but it doesn't really matter. People can still understand what your saying
*chucks keepnet out*
I don't make up words on purpose (unless out of humour) and I correct these things when noted.
I'll let your deliberate 'your' go, there.
what is matter?
Today we're using nouns as verbs, tomorrow we could be cannibalising each other and worshipping pigeons. We have to nip this sort of thing in bud right now.
It's actually "tex'd".
give me your number and ill text you what i text a guy last week, IT REALLY MADE HIM LAUGH
who the fuck in their right mind would say 'i text her yesterday' - are they retarded? what?
how do you think that 'i text her yesterday' or similar is correct english?
Do you know that for sure?
Most recently in Scout's thread about the open invite to a party but in one thread three people did it recently.
how can people say this and not feel like total retards?
Calling someone a retard for spelling a little word wrong shouldn't spark this sort of reaction, is it that big of a deal like?
Maybe it isn't.
The question is surely why are you choosing to misspell it, given you clearly know it's wrong?
P.S. I have no idea what, "how can you get on like this," means.
I mean, in the text example, if you say 'I text him' it isn't like your brain kind of goes 'DOES NOT COMPUTE'.
It would probably be true in the vast majority of cases that you could do away with tenses because of context and in fact plurals for the same reason.
That doesn't mean we should. The structure of the language is there to make reading it easier, to reduce the amount of pointless thinking to discern the meaning of a passage of text.
and not some undergrad paper, I don't think anyone can get annoyed with someone using incorrect grammar.
And does it really take that much thinking to link 'text' to 'texted'?
Given that takes less than a second.
If I read a statement like, say, your one in Scout's thread I start off under the impression I'm reading a past tense comment and then the 'text' comes up and forces me to re-evaluate what I already read and then read the whole sentence and work out whether the word 'texted' should have been written or one of the other parts of the statement is wrong.
This is irritating to me and clearly is irritating to a few other people. I can't really work out why you even bother trying to defend something like this while still typing accurately and not just using 'quick and easy' txt spk or similar?
And I can only see a handful of people in this thread agreeing with you.
But either way, I just don't see how it matters much on here. As long as you get the point across.
About the same number as disagreeing, I'd have said, maybe less.
I find it funnier that people defend this sort of thing at all, but there you go.
I agree with Theo.
Likewise, I find it amusing that people latch on to strict grammar rules in such an informal context.
But hey, we're kinda going in circles around here, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I just type how I type. I can't really understand how I could get my fingers to react differently in a different circumstance.
The idea of dropping grammar/spelling for 'informal' posts seems as weird to me as saying "5 x 5 = 24" because this is an informal context where maths isn't important. :D
(Because I assume you wanted me to bite, there.)
it makes sense. There are some really common words in English where the past tense is the same as the present (set, put etc) and there's no confusion. I don't see why text can't have two past tenses. I think it's all quite interesting - better than us all speaking Esperanto.
They're old English words so I think it's fair to say people don't tend to think this is the 'right' way to do things any more.
Of course English is littered with contradictions but I think we should move towards a clearer, more logical view rather than a less logical one.
Otherwise we may as well have one form of there/their/they're and one of your/you're. But we don't, because it makes more sense to have multiple forms.
like if someone said "I text him on Sunday" - does that mean that have already sent this person a text or that they regularly send them a text on Sundays? This is a misunderstanding that could lead to a needless death.
Say for example when I go on gumtree and I see an ad that is full of spelling/grammar mistakes, I don't usually click on the ad and go "OMG, I MUST MOVE NOW" cos I assume the landlord is a massive 'tard. Or doesn't speak English to a high enough standard to make communicating with them easy.
Obviously, I can overlook a few errors but if the ad just goes "HELLO LOOK AT AD NOW BIG CLEAN HOUSE MUST LOOK RENT NOW SEX FUN HOUSE" my brain does go "...wut?" and I ignore the ad. Or click on it for lolz.
Bad grammar reflects poorly on people.
When you post on DiS, it doesn't really matter as long as you get the point across.
I don't think highly of people who write badly habitually on here.
Moreover if it takes me three times as long to understand your point because you couldn't be arsed to write correctly the first time it's pretty silly.
In this instance the point is always "[point], oh, and I'm a massive 'tard. Duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh..."
and it's not spelling it wrong, it's totally misusing the word.
i think i'm overreacting a bit because it's wednesday and i'm tired and i think it's a bit stupid. it's not like you can't speak english.
The thread where it happened three times.
with the whole "written" and "write" me back and stuff
And life's too short. Sorry.
just ban them
Good as time as any: What does that actually mean?
is when a reply goes missing or doesn't show until someone else posts another reply or gets put in the wrong spot.
Normally, "threadsmash" functions as a noun, but very recently (from about 10:46 on 17 Jun '09) it began to be used as a verb (past tense).
not that it really matters.
It's more annoying when you've grown up being corrected on your grammar constantly and the person who used to correct you (my mum) still says "should of" and wrote "CD's" on the box she packed the other day. Now I correct her just because I find it amusing.
(and I said I'll be posting less, not never, I need to feel like I'm making steady progress)
Do they peel bananas before they eat them?
Do they point at planes?
as soon as you use different punctuation to make a smiley face.
because I don't know what you mean.
But for everyone else who supports you, well they'd better not say 'sat' like "I was sat at the bar".
That is all.
I wear my hair shirt after.
"He sent me a text and I wrote back." Or should I say 'wroted'?
but I don't know anyone who does this. The only person in the thread who admits to it is MissBass.
I therefore draw my conclusion.