Joshu went to a place were a monk had retired to meditate and asked him: `What is, is what?'
The monk raised his fist.
Joshu replied: `Ships cannot remain where the water is too shallow.' And he left.
A few days later Joshu went again to visit the monk and asked the same question.
The monk answered the same way.
Joshu said: `Well given, well taken, well killed, well saved.' And he bowed to the monk.