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I doubt it. What is especially funny is that it is ranked equal with Seattle. Which is ridiculous
i imagine the living standard is probably a bit higher than london
I love London, but it's not always the easiest place to get by, but I think that's actually part of its appeal. I lived in Melbourne and found it quite boring, despite it being a nice place. And I bet New York is way down the list...
and I love Manchester the most.
I think in terms of liveability Manchester will always do well but I didn't expect it to do better than London.
as a place to live.
Hell Broome was possibly better
But I liked the suburbs, Fremantly and the like.
Ahhh Broome, where everything is closed all the time. I had a great week there once watching the stariway to the moon or whatever that things called that happens when the sun went down
I have such bad finger dyslexia today
I ironically am sitting next to someone from Fremantle and he has just confirmed this.
then I can live there for a wee while.
I miss my days out in the market bar, then drinking chilli beer in the Sail & Anchor and heading over to Little Creatures for ale and oysters. Can you ask if he remembers the name of the fish bar that had live bands on quite a lot. Was it Clancys?
so probs not.
He can't remember.
He stresses it has been the better part of a decade since he was home.
It was six years since I was there too so whatever I loved of it has probably been rebuilt as a Primark or strip club.
Shame about the gayness.
but I wouldn't want to live in Manchester.
and as said above my big issue is with it being equal with Seattle. Which is a joke.
Some mornings I drive to the university with Dwight.
Our route leads through the arboretum.
Oh, one of Seattle's superb parks, the arboretum's 250 acres
are artfully planted with shrubs from all over the world.
Really enjoyed the suburbs out by the University, where there seemed to be some cool things going on. Was only there a few weeks mind.
since Michael Winner.
vienna second? i've never been there, so it means nothing to me
also, i echo fullerov's saying seattle >>>>> manchester
Sounds about right. Stability? Did you not see that Millenium Bridge fiasco? London's well wobbly. Healthcare? Swine flu is all over London and not Manchester. Culture and Environment? Not much to choose between them, probably. Education? No idea. But Theo's from London, and he's dead thick. Infrastructure? London has tubes that never run. Manchester has trams that take you to Altrincham. I'm not sure who wins there.
Kik is from Manchester and is famously underemployed
Manchester has trams where you need to lick the coins before putting them in the ticket machine so they work.
does not have fewer twats than London - London has loads of nice likeable people. Manchester is just full of nutters.
Manchester's not even the best city in the North, never mind better than London.
what a great and important idea.
MASSIVE GENERALISATION--------------------->less twatty.
And for car theivery.
London's better for trains and getting to the South Coast.
or you can get on one of the approximately 4 bus routes around the city and its suburbs. London has much more going on, but then that's not a criteria for this particular survey. A large portion of London is at huge flood risk too, plus its size makes it a ballache to get anywhere, so I can see why it's been graded lower.
in terms of cinema, gigs, classical music. There's loads more art, granted, but otherwise Manchester has everything cultural that London does, but at half the price.
in Manchester, London has about a dozen (admittedly they're all expensive)
(and I think the BFI) it tends to have a programme to rival the National Film Theatre's, including lots of the special seasons that the NFT puts on. And it's only £3.30 for a student ticket.
coronet in notting hill is half price on tuesdays and the prince charles cinema is kinda cheap if you become a member
though £6 on mondays, and the 2 for 1 are good value.
Here are the Ents 24 listings for tonight for Manchester and London. Let's, entirely independently, see where there's more going on:
This gig has been moved to Moho Live. Jilly's Rockworld & MusicBox
Aeroplane + Mickey Moonlight Jabez Clegg
Junior Boys Manchester University (Academy 1, 2, 3 & 4)
Academy Unsigned 408:
Tonnica Manchester University (Academy 1, 2, 3 & 4)
Serpico MoHo Live
King Creosote The Ruby Lounge
MC Rut + Archetype Night & Day Cafe
Led Bib Mint Lounge
Oh My God:
Bad Company UK + The Qemists + Simon Bassline Smith + Youngman + Hijak + Jenna G + Daywalkers ft. Tonn Piper + DJ James G + Davie Dee + Raasclarke + Josh Opus
Quiz & Chips:
Richard Barry Fuel Cafe
DJ D. Vyzor + Mafuá de Iaiá Guanabara
Dimbleby & Capper + Temposhark The Fly (Barfly London)
Alexisonfire + Sharks The Borderline
Arturo Sandoval Ronnie Scott's Club
Oggie Ronnie Scott's Club
Tony Woods Pizza Express Soho
Tue 9 Jun - Sun 14 Jun 40th Anniversary Concert:
Jim Bailey Leicester Square Theatre
Tue 9 Jun Jazz Plus:
Roger Beaujolais Quintet Victoria Embankment Gardens
Skin (2) 100 Club
White Heat + The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart Madame JoJo's
Resident DJs And Guests Bar Rumba
Dead or Alive:
Living With Frank + Undercitylights + Buffalo Kite The Comedy Pub
Swing Mon Amour:
DJ El Nino + Lady Kamikaze Charlotte Street Blues
Broken Records Institute of Contemporary Arts (ICA)
Animal Kingdom Monto Water Rats
Huw Stephens Introducing:
Stricken City + Gold Panda + Gallops + Copy Haho The Social W1
Vera Bianca Bohl + Luke Rosier + The Lionels The Slaughtered Lamb
The Ryes (1) + In The Annexe + The Crookes + Joe Rose The Lexington
Mastodon O2 Academy Islington
Future Of Legends O2 Academy Islington
Paseo Malanga The Cross Kings & Jester Bar
Chester French The Old Blue Last
Tue 9 Jun - Sat 13 Jun Andrea Marcovicci Sings Rodgers and Hart:
Andrea Marcovicci Pizza Express (Pizza On The Park)
Tue 9 Jun Billy Talent The Underworld
Lonely Weekend + The Crane Brothers + New Cassettes + Jacks (2) Dublin Castle
Red Thirteen Hope & Anchor
KASMs + Goldteeth + Rhodesia + The Detachments The Macbeth (Hoxton Distillery)
Copy Haho The Buffalo Bar
The Northwestern 93 Feet East
Defend Moscow + Brontosaurus Chorus + Yearner Babies + A Silent Film Project + Guest DJs The Monarch
Steadlur + Jett Black + Jackviper Barfly Camden
All American Rejects Roundhouse Theatre
Kid Harpoon The Enterprise
MOJO Honours List 2009:
Dinosaur Jr + Plus Special Guests HMV Forum
Fol Chen Bardens Boudoir
Tue 9 Jun - Sat 20 Jun Product Medea 4.0
Lowri Evans The Troubadour Cafe
Jandira Silva 606 Club
Trio 606 Club
Sizzling Gypsy Swing Jam:
George Trebar Le QuecumBar And Brasserie
Batrider + To Arms Etc + Oliver Mann + Olivia Chaney The Windmill
Hello Katy Tour:
Katy Perry O2 Shepherds Bush Empire
Katy Perry's sold out.
and I prefer the pubs up there. But! Ultimately I think that there is more stuff (and especially in terms of variety) going on in London. And it does feel dead small whe you go back up there. I love them both.
Also, Manchester has Barburrito, which is a very strong usp in my book (my book of cities)
Surely London is lower because its about 50 times more likely to be blown up by a nutter at the moment.
I'd say Manchester is just as much a target.
Possibly even more so.
Why aim for the seat of government, palaces, banking centre of the country and Camberwell Bus Depot when you could hit Stockport hat museum and Old Trafford tram stop.
and is also closer to the North which is where a lot of the terrorist plots that have been detected seemed to be based.
THINK ABAAT IT.
They have to get their jihad money by selling moody gold on Harpurhey Market.
Harpurhey market is a whole new market these days!
And then they get on a train and travel to London because that will have a much bigger impact than blowing up the Magic Bus to Didsbury.
I am chuckling at the thought of some terrorists in Leeds moaning about the journey to London and saying 'But Manchester is RIGHT THERE! Lets just take out the Arndale Center, that'll show them...'
Giving tall people blood clots since 1987
Some bird kept trying to smoke, and the bloke opposite her kept taking out the newly-lit fag and throwing it out of the window. This must have happened about nine times, neither of them saying anything, just going through this strange routine. She lit the fag, took one drag, he ripped it out of her mouth and lobbed it onto the street. Repeat to fade.
Then he flipped and clouted her one, and she went fucking postal. I got off at the next stop and had a burger at Oxford Road McDonald's.
I probably had a strawberry milkshake as well and then threw it away because it was making me feel sick, because that's what I normally do when I'm battered and I hit the McDonald's.
As long as you buy moousee a pint first.
He fucking loves it.
I'll buy you a pint.
It's moousee snr. Published author, regular radio 4 broadcaster, pot-smoking Alty supporter.
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