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Hull Vs Man Utd
Aston Villa Vs Newcastle
West Ham Vs Middlesborough.
Only one can survive, who will it be?
I'm not cut out for this.
I still can't see them going down. United will dick Hull, Sunderland will get humped by Chelsea and Newcastle will squeak a win or draw out of Villa.
I really hope Newcastle go down, it would make my year.
it'll be Newcastle
I can;t see Hull beating Man U and I wouldn't be surprised if we keep up our shocking run and Newcastle win 1-0 or something
Though it would be quite funny if Newcastle went down. But they'll stay up, and then Shearer will have a crap season next year.
but having seen the Man Utd squad, if anyone's going to get something it'll be Hull.
The sun is beaming in over Humberside, a rare occurence but hopefully it'll make the little Brazilian shine.
It's going to be an intense day and I honestly think that Villa will get the points they need for fifth place. I can't even imagine what scenes would go down in Newcastle if they are relegated...
Boro and Newcastle down.
so they'd need to win by 3 and hope Hull lose by 2 for example or some similar combination - I think
despite only winning 1-0.
For this to happen, Newcastle need to lose and Hull need to lose to Man Utd reserves by four goals, right?
my daft black'n'white heart says someone like steven taylor will head us safe (score draw)
boro have too much to do
sunderland are clear enough to be lose and not sweat too much
hull won't get more than a draw, but i still fancy that salford boys club (after what happened in the FA cup semi) to be the superior side
but I ain't betting on it. We are probably going to get easily beaten today. I'm just hoping that Newcastle and Hull play as badly as they have been recently. Boro are knackered and I hope Newcastle go down. Braving the smelly Sports Café because it has loads of different TVs showing all of the games.
they've got an impossible game but the teams below them are all bad enough to get nothing
can you guess who the only two sides newcastle have beaten in 2009 are?
Boro aaaaaaaaand Hull. West Brom. No Hull
It's all in the hands of yous guys and Hull, which is a bit depressing. As a Sunderland fan i'm fairly used to disappointment/relegation. You can almost sense that it's close
i wouldn't be confident facing that.
but i think they could get a draw
though I am a bit surprised that Kuszczak's starting. As shit as he is, if he gets injured that leaves us with Ben Amos as backup for Wednesday. Didn't expect to see Lee Martin in there either but I think he's just being put in the shop window.
Good to see Wes get a game, it's been a nightmare season for him.
argh god ONLY half an hour till kick off. Pub I'm going to has the Toon on as well, I'm starting to get a bit giddy.
Fergie said he needed a game under him belt if he was to start in midweek.
at least I hope it is. As far as I'm aware it's not any new problem, but Ferdinand's games have been cherry-picked throughout the second half of the season. Can see him having an op in the summer to sort it out. Hopefully they won't wait until August to do it like they did with Hargreaves.
Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Edgar, Duff
Guthrie, Nolan, Butt, Lovenkrands
Krul, Jose Enrique, Owen, Smith, Gutierrez, Ameobi, Ryan Taylor
shitty pants time all round
terrible idea, our players are lazy enough as it is without letting them know that they don't *need* to win
but i don't think they need anymore encouragement to slow down than necessary
gareth barry :(
getting Newcastle promoted on the next Football Manager.
all it took was 5 or 6 seasons and replacing all but two members of the current senior team (coloccini, who can defend in the game, and guiterrez - n'zogbia stayed as well)
unless I have the resources to blitz teams from beginning to end.
How's your game going? I haven't seen any of it. I don't think relegation would necessarily be a disaster for your lot. It'd galvanise the fanbase (who'd be seeing their team win most weeks as well, for a change) and would be a much-needed opportunity to shift some of the dead wood.
but we've not been useless
i can see us drawing level and man utd keeping us up
Wes Brown in particular looking very good. Gary Neville does seem determined to gift Hull a goal though.
I want some excitement at the bottom, not everyone to lose like they have done all season!
whoever is least worst stay up
three up keegan style
could lose out on the break but we've got nothing to lose really so might as well gamble
Villa must be quaking in their boots
disappointing but pretty inevitable really, we've definitely been one of the worst sides in the league this year.
too slow, too old, no creativity and defensively weak.
one of the most draining football watching experiences i've ever had. Newcastle on the main screen playing the entire game as if they knew they were going to lose. At the end I just felt awful for the Newcastle fans, stuck with a team of mercenaries who couldn't be arsed to fight.
Hopefully yous guys can sell every loser in your squad and rebuild now. Get a proper team and come back up again.
Man so painful to watch aarggghh
Sorry soapy. If we defend the same way we did today against Everton you'll have a small, petty :D at my expense next Saturday anyway.
even if we let in four. we will never lose again. i'm much more optimistic at the end of this season than i was the last.
guus is a hero, a chelsea legend already.
as much as i like moyes and everton i can't see hiddink losing his last game at the club.
six months of a season (if that) and a chelsea legend. doesn't take much to make it into your history books!
how did i know you would be the one to bring up "history" :D
he is a chelsea legend in my eyes, obviously not like zola or osgood or winston bogarde, but he came in and revitalised a dying team. a proper hero.
good banter with you ibzo. we should get married.
he was alright
Nice bloke but he wasn't a manager. Might end up with Curbishley or someone now. Criteria
- must not be some old Sunderland player with no experience
- must not be a coach with no managerial experience
- must not own a dog
- must be able to retain respect of players and motivate highly paid twats
Can't believe it.
I remember all my primary school friends supporting Newcastle circa 96/97 and getting Shearer shirts etc. To see them down is shocking. I'm gutted for them. Just been in the pub with a load of toons. Feel awful for them.
This season can only get more exciting by Burnley coming up. Jesus. Can't believe it.
I love this game.
being the best chance yet for all three new clubs to stay up
Getting 50 points doesn't necessarily make a team one of the 'big boys'.
tbh, I don't think that a league can function with more than two matches against the same side - which effectively means that you have to have at least 18 teams in the top division.
i hate hull.
when the team who've finished bottom have won more games than you you definitely have no place in the league
winning only one of your final 22 league games, in their, situation, should have qualified them as being curtains ages ago. the only thing that is keeping them up is the fact that newcastle and middlesborough have been just as bad.
yet i still feel bad for geordies.
you could have dropped the bottom 5 or 6 teams and no one (on form) could really complain
i'm off to get shitfaced.
It would have been a travesty had Newcastle stayed up. All the shite spoken about them as being a side the premiership needs etc. they really have contributed nothing except the disintegration of a few players' careers (Owen, Duff, Luis Enrique, Obafemi Martins, Cacapa..............................) and a few headlines on which manager of their's has been sacked and who is being brought in, and the weeks of speculation surrounding it.
The club is a fucking circus. I'd be happier if I were a Toon fan anyway. They're better off going down, getting rid of the afore-mentioned names and plenty more. Using this cash to buy in players Shearer reckons will want to play for the club and collect a more modest wage than the wages they've been bandying about. Note how many of the current squad will want to stay on for the championship next year, it'll be very few. That displays the amount of committment the players have.
Promotion back to the premiership will be their first achievement in a long time, should they get it. That's something tangible that will allow them to re-build and become a slightly serious side again.
Boro add nothing to the premiership only Tuncay. It's about time they went.
That has been coming for yyyears. Unnecessarily harsh on the fans though. Can't tar em all with the same brush as the five tools SSN talks to. I was sitting with a load of them today who 'will never like Shearer even if he keeps us up'.
because even when he was in the latter stages of his playing days there was a small but significant group of Newcastle fans who really turned against Shearer for whatever reason. It does increasingly seem like da meedja have identified a fan "type" for certain clubs and won't let it go - Newcastle have countless messiahs and unending passion, Man City fans lionise a certain level of underachievement/failure, Spurs fans are footballing misanthropes...
to be honest we never recovered from sacking Robson, since then we've had about 8 managers, no coherent buying policy, we've been too complacent, always thinking we've been too good to go down but let's not forget that Roeder and Keegan both had to save us with last gasp good runs.
people trying to say it might be good for us to go down. it might, possibly, but our players (apparently) don't have contracts that make wage allowance for a drop so if we don't make the right sales, renegotiations and buys we could go bust.
i think only the Big Four and Spurs came close to rivalling our wage bill - 70% of our massive income. it would barely have been sustainable if we'd stayed up.
with a fiver just before kick-off :D
If so the tiny amount of respec I had for him has now gone
more of that to come hopefully! Starting with Chopra. Although I don't think we're getting 5 million back for him somehow
incredible, self awareness lacking rants against tomething or other I can't help but wish one of the journalists present would have the balls to chip in with "but Roy, you spent £5m on Michael Chopra, why should we listen to you?"
Wor Niall has a bit of a sly dig at him walking out in the BBC interview. Fair nuff. That's at least 4m we're never going to see again
but i'd trust niall he seems to be thinking the right way
Well I hope. It does sound quite positive. But knowing Sunderland that big name is probably going to be Steve McClaren then everyone will get mad again
I might be overdoing it a bit, but part of me thinks that Hull are the second worst side (behind Bradford in 2000) to stay up at the end of a Premiership season. It's only the combined ineptitude of Newcastle and Boro that have kept them up, that sort of form they had would usually leave a team finishing bottom, let alone in the relegation zone.
The bench shots today mostly seemed to feature Iain Dowie explaining to him how football works with big A4 pieces of paper. Urgh
that dowie was really the one in charge
Two good ones from Sunderland/Newc, but let's begin with this horrendous video of Phil Brown singing
Look at his smarmy face.
and gets hit by a soggy burger
Everyone else seems to think he's a cunt.
a) Hull for record low points total.
b) West Brom to be the only relegated team to mount serious promotion challenge.
until watching MOTD.
LOL at Shearer. LOL at Newcastle. I like the Newcastle fans that post on here, but those barechested tear stained cheeked wallys in Birmingham today. They should have been 2 or 3 goals up before Villa scored. For a side that contains seasoned Argentinian internationals like Jonas and Collocini and seasoned England internationals like Butt and Owen, the whole season has been embarrassing.
A shame Phil Brown kept Hull up. Nothing against Hull themselves, but Phil Brown is such an odious berk.
Shame about Middlesbrough. I like them and I like Southgate in particular, sadly they just completely lack Premier League quality.
than our lot if i'm honest
thinking that we'll be playing Peterborough away next season when we were in the last 16 of the Champions League six years ago. Still, staying up would only have resulted in yet more papering over of the cracks/crevasses which are endemic in the club. Let's hope that once the dust has settled and the fire sale is over, we can start building for the future both financially and in terms of building an actual team rather than an amusing collection of big-name dilettantes and hasbeens. My fear is that our fans, who were our greatest strength when we were doing well, will continue to have far too much influence over the decisions that are made and will decimate any hopes of stability, long-term progress or generally not being the laughing stock of English football. Let's see.
That said, I hope Shearer stays on. I think he has managerial potential but needs to learn his trade outside the red-hot environment of the Premiership. As a 'local legend' (urgh) he also offers a chance of stability because he's less likely to be dumped in kneejerk fashion.
Newcastle have a really good start. No matter who's in charge. Otherwise the pressure is going to be unbearable.
And I actually kind of agreed with something Garth Crooks said today, which might be the first time I've ever done that. It was basically that until Shearer has a proper go and fucks up then Newcastle are gonna struggle to get in anyone else as a long-term stable manager as there'll always be speculation/desire from a section of the fans the 'logal legend' (I'll second the urgh!) gets his go.
At the same time I think Newcastle have got a fuck of a job on next season - there's gonna be ridiculously high expectation they'll stroll the league combined with possibly huge financial problems due to lack of relegation clauses in contracts and a squad that actually isn't that good. And I think it's gonna take a really really good (and probably experienced) manager to rebuild the club and get them promoted (and certainly to turn 'em into a stable Premier League club). I just don't think Shearer's got the experience to do what's needed to be done.
But, at the same time, I think even if the right guy came in they'd struggle 'cos the fans'd want Shearer.
Didn't they have that with Keegan? That was hardly a bed of roses.
So the more deluded element can claim can claim if Keegan had stayed they'd have qualified for Europe.
pretty much the antithesis of 'stability' and he was always going to storm out at some point. Shearer's a sensible man who thankfully doesn't resort to fistpumping antics and playing to the diehards. Makes all the difference. Whether he's a good manager too, we'll see...
but i do think that between him and mcdermott we would've finished higher than we did
it helped cost us another year of Bobby Robson and it cost us the midtable dependability that Big Sam would've provided.
that said Shearer does need to stay because we can't lose another manager, if only for stabilities sake we need to settle down and have someone in long enough to at least create a balanced eighteen to take on the road.
This made me chuckle: http://tinyurl.com/ov6dus