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I'm close to putting money on this
haha, imagine just waltzing into ladbrokes with this bet
betting on COLD HARD FACT - surefire way to win.
having said that, he'll probably just set a date rather than f*ck off.
By 10.45 I was certain. By 11.04 I had time to post. Paul Waugh at The Spectator broke the story.
It's been reported to be broken by Scottish ITN. What did Waugh do, give you the tip off? The heads up? The wink-wink?
what with all the debates and votes and meetings and late nights and early starts and listening to constituents and all that?
How is it possible to be the speaker as well? Who presumably has to spend a fair deal of his time in the house of commons listening to all the inane bullshit edm's and stuff, and not a great deal in scotland helping the people who voted for him.
And you go to ATP
I'd hate to be working class!
How did he handle it badly last Monday?
for daring to suggest transparency is a good thing and questioning whether the police really needed to be involved.
rather than addressing the perception that the Commons is full of self-serving shitehawks.
He also had a go at Kate Hoey for speaking out on Newsnight/some other TV show, and apparently, the Speaker personally attacking a member of the House just isn't on.
now saying he will go before the summer recess
You know the BBC says "It is the first time in 300 years a Speaker has been effectively forced out" – who was the last one? Quick glance on Wikipedia hasn't thrown up any answers.
Which gives me this man:
On 7 March 1695, he was found guilty of accepting a bribe of 1000 guineas from the City of London to aid the passage of the Orphans' Bill through the house. He was expelled from the House of Commons, a move which he initially resisted on the ground of ill-health. He was not asked to refund the bribe and retained his judicial position until his death at the age of 69 or 70 on 20 May 1717.
"You can't sack me, I'm ill!"
Doesn't say he was forced out as such but I'm reading between the lines.
that John Trevor blokey was cross eyed. I wish I was a politician in the olden days.
which had one politician saying to another "it seemed like only yesterday we had nobody to blame but ourselves".
I'm not saying Martin hasn't fucked up but I do think there's an element of opportunistic scapegoating too.
great line in the bbc report:
He added that while Mr Martin appeared to be the issue - the main issues around expenses and wider issues affecting Britain would be obscured.
Or, for that matter, rentboys.
He clearly ballsed up last Monday by criticising Hoey and Baker, but he is quite clearly being made a scapegoat for the entire House's failings.
MPs realise the public want blood, and as a way of appeasing them and trying to save their own bacon they have went after Martin. It's really quite ludicrous how the same people who have ripped the pish out of the system for years have now formed a lynch mob to get him out, on some sort of moral crusade.
As I said, he fucked up big time, but he's a decent man. Speak to his constituents, who will all say that he is a very good constituency MP, and is as down to earth and approachable as they come.
he's just unlucky that he is the one in the chair. Very easy target considering he is the authority in the house.
by making it sound like the issue was plugging the leak rather than the substance of it. If he'd just switched the emphasis of his statement to be more contrition and less attack on finding out where it came through then he'd probably have survived. Yesterday's statement would have probably been enough at that point, but wasn't enough to make up for the first one.
Given that Brown, Cameroon and Clegg were already all apologies and/or action by the time he made his original statement that was a massive mistake to make, particularly given that he'd tried to stop the publication so many times in the past.
So fuck him :)
Michael Martin is a terrible speaker anyway. The fact that he was an old 'working class' MP is a load of old balls. He's one of the most pro-old boys' network people around. And he's useless anyway. The fact that he was more concered with sourcing the leaks than anything else was telling.
Obviously there's an element of MPs trying to focus the blame. But he is more than deserving of this.
not because he used to be a sheet-metal worker, not because he's scottish, but because ultimately he was the weakest link. The attack dogs like Carswell sussed this and did him out of the chair.
He has just completely missed what his job is all about. It changed without him realising, and within a few weeks of media frenzy he thought he was still supposed to be defending MPs rights and privileges; he just made a huge, huge error of judgement.
That said, I don't think he is entirely a scapegoat. The responsibilities of his office are to represent the Commons and set standards of discipline and behaviour. He's failed to do his job properly.
the by-election is going to be an absolute bloodbath. eek!
how is one seat going to be a bloodbath?
the media always blow by-elections way out of proportion as indicators of overall public feeling, and they can be a pretty massive deal. Has he resigned as an MP as well, then?
i think returning to party politics in his situation would be very difficult.
apparently the constituency paper shufflers, already in election mode with Europe and local elections, are preparing for a September by-election. It's interesting though because, as Speaker, Michael Martin usually got a 'free-ride' in his constituency (for example in 2005, only the SNP stood against him, and he managed to get 82.3% of the vote still). It'll be interesting to see which way it falls come the (assumed) by-election.
I don't think she'd wanna go impartial, she's such a preacher.
The former shadow home secretary is one of Parliament's best-known and most respected figures. Has said she is definitely standing down at the next general election and appeared to pour cold water on the idea of doing the Speaker's job on an interim basis in a BBC interview, after allies on the Tory benches talked up her chances of landing it.