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out of interest?
not really masses.
with the conservative snearing at the merest hint of intellectualism. good one.
Not as much as I used to, but am currently staring at copies of Zarathustra, Ecce Homo, Anti-Christ and Twilight of the Idols. Not read them for ages though. My current knowledge is probably a series of in-jokes varying the line 'I am not a man, I am dynamite'. I may be a bit useful though.
COME OVER HERE AND BE IMPRESSED THIS GUY! HE'S LISTED A LOAD OF BOOKS! HE'S REALLY CLEVER!
More that they happen to be on my desk and I was answering the question, but yeah LOOK AT ME EVERYONE I CAN TYPE IN CAPS AS WELL
or listened to Broken Social Scene?
nietzsche and antisemitism?
he was a massive pagan btw. this surprises me.
and posthumously edited his papers to emphasise the anti-semetic stuff. Really it just a bit of racist...horseplay
i'm reading her biography.
Although Nietzsche has famously been represented as a predecessor to Nazism, he also criticized anti-Semitism, pan-Germanism and, to a lesser extent, nationalism. Thus, he broke with his editor in 1886 because of opposition to his anti-Semitic stances, and his rupture with Richard Wagner, expressed in The Case of Wagner and Nietzsche Contra Wagner (both written in 1888), had much to do with Wagner's endorsement of pan-Germanism and anti-Semitism — and also of his rallying to Christianity. In a March 29, 1887 letter to Theodor Fritsch, he mocked anti-Semitics, Fritsch, Eugen Dühring, Wagner, Ebrard , Wahrmund, and the leading advocate of pan-Germanism, Paul de Lagarde, who would become, along with Wagner and Houston Chamberlain, main official influences of Nazism . This 1887 letter to Fritsch ended by: "— And finally, how do you think I feel when the name Zarathustra is mouthed by anti-Semites? ... "
^ do you know any more?
don't quote me on any of this, as it's been a while since I read up on it, but basically Section VIII of Beyond Good and Evil, titled "Peoples and Fatherlands", criticized pan-Germanism and patriotism, advocating instead for the unification of Europe (§256, etc.).
In Ecce Homo (1888), he criticized the "German nation", its "will to power (to Empire, to Reich)", thus underscoring an easy misinterpretation of the Wille zur Macht, the conception of Germans as a "race", the "anti-Semitic way of writing history", or of writing "history conform to the German Empire," and stigmatized "nationalism, this national nevrosis from which Europe is sick", this "small politics" . Nietzsche heavily criticized his sister's husband, Bernhard Förster, and his sister, speaking harshly against the "anti-Semitic canaille.": "After I read the name Zarathustra in the anti-Semitic Correspondence my forbearance came to an end. I am now in a position of emergency defense against your spouse's Party. These accursed anti-Semite deformities shall not sully my ideal!!''" .
Georges Bataille was one of the first to denounce the deliberate misinterpretation of Nietzsche carried out by Nazis, among whom Alfred Baeumler. He dedicated in January 1937 an issue of Acéphale, titled "Reparations to Nietzsche," to the theme "Nietzsche and the Fascists. ." There, he called Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche "Elisabeth Judas-Förster," recalling Nietzsche's declaration: "To never frequent anyone whom is involved in this bare-faced fraud concerning races." .
Hope that helps
We're just good friends.
kinda makes me feel like i'm writing the right sort of things.
I C+Ped it all as a joke. I assumed the fact I hadn't removed the footnote numbers might give the game away. It's here if you need more:
i'm being driven to distraction by all of this information and i'm really ill :(
I FEEL SILLY NOW.
but thanks anyhow.
[delete as appropriate]
you mention his conflation of Judaism and Christianity (this would mediate against claims of anti-semitism). He was above all, anti-transcendentalist (which both were/are) both proferred the weak as being strong, which was the major revaluation (this ties into his anti-transcendentalism too- he didnt believe in rewards for meekness in the next world). So he was against their philosophies, but argued for the cleverness of the enterprise (but cleverness was something he was against). He felt that both were reactive (I look at a strong man - he is evil, therefore I am weak and I am good) as opposed to self-affirming...blah blah blah. Its been a while, so forgive me if this is wrong, but I don't think it is.
Was obviously used to bolster the link by the Nazis. You could look at the Nazis' "strong" representations of the body versus "degenerate" bodies, etc
hated lots of **philosophies**. Judeo-Christian (for reasons above, but also the Buddhists (negation of life), but also didn't like mob mentalities. His analysis of herd mentality is strictly against collectivisation (I would argue) and therefore obv. wouldnt have liked Nazism.
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel
There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill
Plato, they say, could stick it away
Half a crate of whiskey every day
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle
Hobbes was fond of his dram
And René Descartes was a drunken fart
I drink, therefore I am
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed
A lovely little thinker
But a bugger when he's pissed
little guy, moustache, liked custard tarts
*lots of bullshit i don't know enough about to follow*
He was taught to me as the father of the non-religious right, which had an ideological influence after his death that eclipsed anything in his lifetime.
While he was not anti-semetic as such, his belief in strong leadership and self-determination was used to knock down immigrant cultures who were pretty universally considered inferior.
Also, Nazism can be separated from anti-semitism. For instance, the Nazi plan to send Jews to Madagascar (i think) was discussed with the French foreign minister, also the rest of Western Europe's reluctancy to accept Jewish immigrants could be considered.
I don't think the question is 'was Nietzsche racist?' as that's not really the issue, it's more about how his ideology affected the political sphere.
To use a more recent example, you could ask if Thatcherism encouraged the National Front or was class prejudiced or put people from ethnic minorities into poverty without asking 'was Thatcher racist'?
it's for german. hmm. this is solid to write about auf deutsch. i'm not getting sooooo far..
You should watch more KNTV.
i did a paper on him in 3rd year if i can be of any help..he's fucking hard though