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Because I've just been told a couple of grand a month and I'm shocked, very very shocked.
Is this true?
okay, is it possible for a pub just to get a licence for certain matches on demand instead?
it's part of the sky subscription for public houses/broadcast outside of home. you pay way more than the regular sky package just so you can have sky in a pub, let alone the sports channels.
over a month though, maybe fifteen games televised which = a lot of different people coming in which hopefully = more profit.
good one Sky.
altruism isn't noted as being one of the Murdoch clan's premier traits
but - how would one do that anyway?
it's only for special people. now answer the fucking question, please.
realise that the property is a pub too.
you can probably tell, I only watch sport under duress.
where have they gone?
said the Landlord should just say it's for the flat upstairs and pay domestic prices. As of writing this Sky do not have roving patrols of private police ready to bust any dodgy use of sky boxes. It's probably only a matter of time though.
or something like that.
although that said, i know of iplayer streams being projected and not being awful, so if you got decent streams, who knows... *shrug*
the pub i worked in didn't have it, but we lost quite a lot of trade when a game featuring one of the London clubs was on Sky (especially if it was Chelsea).
the pub around the corner from us had some dodgy spanish satalite which probably showed more live premiership football than Sky did, i'm not sure how they got around that one.
why people don't just tipex the pint logo on the big screens...
I noticed this when watching the last champions league games, had a few myself so not 100%
I know someone who used to supplement his income selling stickers that looked like the little pint glass for £20 a pop
at least we don't live in New York mind, them fuckers have to get a dancing license as well!
the old mans pub round the corner from my abode broadcasts terrestrial sky in the pub. fly bastards.
That Sky have now, more or less, attracted everyone onto it's books that would realistically ever want the thing. A year or so ago, the number of people subscribing flatlined for the first time ever.
They (supposedly) decided that the best bet to secure more trade was to push the price of pub subscriptions up, meaning hopefully a lot less folk would fork out to show it, meaning more people would take up the offer at home. And then pay for the pay per view games. And the Box office fights. etc.
I hate Rupert Murdoch. I read that the sports package Setanta lost to Sky was offered back to them as it is actually going to lose Sky money having it. But he decided, against the will of the whole board, that he'd rather try to bankrupt the channel and lose millions of pounds than have a rival...
Fits with his usual MO. He did it to the Telegraph and the Mirror back in the day. He's doing it to ITV/Virgin right at this moment.
What confuses me is that people get so het up about it. Yes, it's a bastard paying more for anything, but if you were in Murdoch's position - would you roll over and allow any number of competitors to take a bite out of your pie because 'it's the right thing to do'?
TV programmes, the news (they choose that) we read, the sport we can and can't watch. And when they have the monopoly, they'll just inflate their prices.
Competition breeds rivalry. Rivalry breeds creativity and options. What drives someone with billions of pounds to want more anyhow? I have no idea...
Its like a disease?
I don't really blame him for wanting to have good stuff on his channel, but I do hate the fact he's prepared to force football out of the public domain in order to do so...
"The trouble is that if you don't, Sky control everything" - if the product is decent. Their monopoly over the football is as much the fault of ITV/BBC's incompetence and the inefficacy of the system as it is Murdoch's ruthlessness.
I seem to remember it was common to state that Microsoft controlled everything (ergo, Bill Gates is the monster), but somehow that opinion has dissipated somewhat in the advent of open source programming becoming more and more prevalent. I know every day I have access to VLC player is another day I care less about Windows Media Player being bunged in with every copy of Windows...
"Shall I pay to watch Sky Sports' coverage of the match or just tune into that free feed of a couple of overexcited Geordies with a web cam in the stands? Hmmm. TOUGH CHOICE."
Of course nowadays, secret option number three exists: Wait until the morning after the match you want to see, then consult Mininova.com or some similar site where invariably someone will have uploaded a torrent of the feed from Setanta or Sky for you to watch, gratis.
Not that I'm advocating anything like this of course.
Is there a form of piracy that doesn't rely on a legitimately acquired original?
The BBC can't compete with Sky's revenues, largely due to the shit the British population and government give it for generally doing a thoroughly good job. They have to cover everyones tastes, and using up their annual budget on just a few football games would be commercial suicide.
It's not that I expect terrestrial channels to have all the sport, I resigned myself that wouldn't happen long ago. But I do expect to be able to see certain things SOMEHOW, whether that be keeping national sporting events available to all (eg. World Cups, The Ashes, Six Nations etc) or going down the pub for the big matches. If they price those establishments out of the running too, that would leave having to get Sky (this will NEVER happen in my lifetime) or hanging around outside Comet.
It goes on the value of your premises. So he used to pay three hundred quid a month, but the sports bar (picaddilly circus?) Pay eighteen thousand pounds a month.
Confusing. Why are you helping pub landlords get Sky? :D
18k a month?
Most pubs just use theirs for premiership football it seems.
with it being the Sports Bar and all. Been there once, horrible.
maybe they meant to say eighteen hundred. Wouldn't put it past Murdoch though.
LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU(tm)
nice one Stealthy.
No idea where they pulled 18k from then.
is that Sky have an iron fist clench over games that aren't even being shown in this country. Fair enough that they want people to pay for domestic Sky, but if somebody wants to watch something thats only on canalplusaluakhbhar then what exactly are they supposed to do? Not watch it? Not watch it because Sky, getting subscription money from ther country in question, hasn't given this country the opportunity to see it? If people could view whatever match they wanted to on domestic Sky then it would be far less of an issue, but people getting fucked with massive fines for showing a match that's on Arab TV and nowhere else.. well, it just aint right
Live and let live, yer cunts