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they need pictures to tell the story in their tiny brains
There's this endless supply of daft fucking films that emerge from 'graphic novels' and their blood boiling hype is proceeded by grown men complaining that the newest incarnation doesn't stay true to the comic. They're everything I hate about film.
comix r ghey
I'm reading 'Sleepwalkers' and it's amazing.
Graphic Novels FTW.
is that okay?
I mean, monsters, superheroes, zombies? Completely ridiculous.
My dad is a proper grown up (53), and him and his friends still read/collect comics and meet up to talk about comics. These are people with grown-up boring senior management jobs, the fleet foxes album, grown-up, boring opinions and some of them have dentures.
my sister's well into xmen. but i tried reading them and it was just one long yawn.
SCOTT PILGRIM IS AWESOME THOUGH.
YOU ARE A WISE PERSON.
and post a comment about people needing to grow up; grow up.
Does he make a habit of calling people babies?
it's - and i seem to be saying this more and more on the boards, or so it seems - rather interesting psychologically
The capital letters and excessive use of the exclamation mark made it clear I was joking, or so I thought.
BUT as far as i'm aware something like Watchmen is highly thought of way outside of tradition comic book nerd circles, right into sort of the literature-fellating cogniscienti. but then again, it wouldn't be miles away from your persona to say "well they're all dicks" about those too. methinks the imperative in your statement is misdirected
They all like stuff like Maus, yet scoff at THE MARVEL UNIVERSE.
PEOPLE WHO ONLY LIKE COMICS WITHOUT SUPERHEROES AND UNREALISTIC STUFF CAN GET TO FUCK YOU MAD SCAFF
(I won't mention manga, because people who love graphic novels tend to hate manga more than people who hate graphic novels)
Do they dismiss art? No. Literature? No. Film? No. Something that kinda combines aspects of all of those, however, is somehow 'juvenile'? Even with graphic novels, they cover so much different stuff. I can understand someone disliking sci-fi graphic novels, or any other kind of subgenre, but saying the whole medium is worthless is as ignorant as saying novels, or art, or movies are.
I take issue with this statement, I have not found it to be remotely true in my experience. Among people I have met, there is a large crossover between people who enjoy graphic novels and people who enjoy manga. But I don't know many extremists on either side.
However, I heartily agree with the remainder of your statement, so I will let you off :)
Also: people that play computer games, people that read books for enjoyment not learning, people that watch entertaining television programmes and films, people that enjoy playing football in the park.
Grow up, the lot of you.
This post sums up better the reason for this thread:
because three people 'agreed' with that post. As PocketMouse points out it's still a stupid point.
That is correct. It just annoys me more so when they're adapted from graphic novels... because they're never that great. How many people regard one of these adaptations as the greatest film of all time? Not many. They're never classics, yet the hype surrounding them is always far greater than for any other genre.
Infact, I'm not going back on the 'grow up' thing, fuck it. A 40 year old man shouldn't get excited about the prospect of a new Spiderman film.
so how would you know whether they are good, great, bad or othwewise?
so you've gone from "people who read graphic novels: grow up" to "people who hype up films which are adaptations of graphic novels (often bad adaptations at that): grow up"
Action-heavy films get made of action-heavy comic books because they're an easy sell. The dialog is usually pretty to-the-point (very script-friendly) and they're as good as storyboarded already. But Ghost World aside, the types of graphic novels that get made into films are unrepresentative of what other amazing stuff is out there in that medium if you look beyond the capes and masks stuff (although Marvelman is still one of the most disturbing and gripping things I've ever read).
These are such obvious points I can't believe I'm typing them, mind.
even essays. and, when I am older, like 'reports' and stuff, whatever I have to write irl.
Further to this:
ranting about the dissertations he had to mark. He was absolutely furious that some people chose anime/manga work as subjects. "Fucking cartoons!-I wanna knock 'em out!"
We have a disappointing prediliction for comics/graphic novels on my film course, so I can see why he's angry.
People who assign entire artforms to a particular age group based on outmoded assumptions: grow up.
I would kill him.
fuck you all!
Ice dancing is fucking rubbish.
it's very kind of you, but I don't think I'll be following it. I don't take directions from guys on forums who dismiss entire artistic mediums just because the hollywood hype machine tried to sell them something.
(ps i agree with the thread thanks lol brb)
when are they going to make a film of Swamp Thing? eh?
I haven't seen it in YEARS
That said, I might order that Wes Craven one come payday...
it's quite ignorant as well.
also, you're only 21, so maybe you should grow up
dis is really annoying at the mo!
Go read some Marian Keyes or John Grisham.
completely disregards film as an artform.
Which is pretty funny seeing as he writes comics for a living.
i know more words than him! From Hell? I could write something much better than that in a day.
he just thinks his work has already found their medium... thus rendering a film pointless
"I find film in its modern form to be quite bullying,it spoon-feeds us, which has the effect of watering down our collective cultural imagination. It is as if we are freshly hatched birds looking up with our mouths open waiting for Hollywood to feed us more regurgitated worms."
Whilst I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, its just quite funny statement from someone who writes comics for a living.
are mad into this kind of thing. it wouldn't bother me but when they all get together they start having heated debates about whether batman is cooler than spiderman or shit like that. which is pretty retarded
but they redecorated like six months afterwards
but fuck you.
It does not make a lesser person because I enjoy art work with the words. I read books as well. I think you can do something with graphic novels that you just can't do as well with books. It's the same with anime. All mediums serve their purpose.
Graphic novels have inspired some great movies...
So grow up and think before you go around slating them. Not everyone who reads them is 35, sweaty and lives with his mother.