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Let the battle commence!
A sensible thread!
because they have to suffer more in life, period, pregnancy and child birth and resulting damage to body, then the menopause. All men worry about is cock size and whether they get unexpected erections in class!
As a 28 year old, I would definitely worry if I got an erection in class.
and are taller
quite interesting, them....
WE'VE ALREADY WON LADS!!
its attitudes like that that genderise the roles that we occupy
I'll get the Carlings in...
If you regard your mum or your paramour as your enemy
Because whichever you are just lost, dramatically.
But women are better to look at.
So in summary: A draw!
and can overpower women but if they are like that then they are not really men!
but as you say if you go round doing that then you are just playing to your strengths and not acknowledging all the other strengths that exist.
Bravery does not mean being the strongest or meanest.
As you say women have the most pain to suffer of humans (during childbirth) in fact its probably greater than of any other animal, so thats one thing women excel at that is cherished by machismo as being a male trait....endurance of pain, women can take more, i believe that women also have more endurance.....and are normally more beautiful to watch than men, except as in the case of playing football, as mentioned above.
However with regard to doing washing and cooking and cleaning and stuff, blokes thinking its manly not to do this are mistaken, what they are being is childish and still need looking after by their mother (or by substitute mothers)....i really dont see what there is to be proud about in this (I realise that it may be portrayed here as a joke....but not everyone who hears comments like this, realise it is a joke, fully)
You are a real man. I wish other men had your attitude, perhaps the world might be a nicer place. x
who is suffering depression since being made redundant a while back, who cant even do beans on toast whilst he is at home during the day....he asked his son to ask his freinds mum what to do....he's 50 ffs
I dont suppose he is even particularly unusual, specially in the area we live in....yet i would be the one considered to be 'unusual' we live in a f***ed up world
My mate's dad who is 70 will sit in the cold for 4 hours rather then put the fire on himself. They have a proper fire and he waits for his wife to do it. He also waits for her to make him a cuppa when he wants one and everything else that he could do himself but can't be bothered cos why should he cos he is retired now. He only drives and does the DIY now!
to be fair to men, the role segregation is in a few cases more enforced by women than men....like i believe that tin mrs knees mates case she herself may be slightly responsible by refusing to countenance that her husband should cook.....i think that tyhis makes her more indispensible, like he really is reliant on her....she basically treats him a bit like one of the kids, and even now ferries him around in the car.....she does far too much for the kids too.....but i still think that the bloke should of at least insistend on doing some things....making sandwiches for the kids or something rather than allowing her to do everything shes even got 3 jobs.
I cant take all the credit, cos i was brought up by my nan and mum then just by my mum, and they both thought men were rubbish...actually my nan thought women were rubbish too.
I dont think men are rubbish but i think that the attitudes that men are supposed to have are, and the role allocating is also rubbish, the sort of conventionality that encourages artificial demarcation of tasks is rubbish, the expectation that men or women are intrinsically better at some things to the degree that the other gender shouldnt even try is farcical (although women are generally rubbish at map reading and parallel parking....but im only going on anecdotal evidence there, and the women involved were probably inclined to give up trying to be good at these cos they are encouraged to think that its natural for them to be rubbish at it) so whatever..
But I know what you mean. Society and the media are to blame for segregation. Things have changed a lot since the 50's. Take a look at this web site. http://www.eons.com/groups/topic/1423481-how-to-be-a-195-s-housewife
Shows how times were not that long ago really. Shocking isn't it?
asked if we wanted some coffee......he then had to ask us if he had to put the 'instant coffee' into his caffetiere to make it (he'd obviously seen his girlfreind do this....obviously he didnt normally bother making himself coffee when alone....he was in his 30's
I thought coffee making/grinding/fiddling was considered a 'male domain'
(extra gripe.......men who say they do cook but just do one dish.....like a special curry (which they will rant and rave about to everyone and to which their partner normally indulges with a 'yes its really good' cos they feel they have to encourage them.......or men who 'do barbecue' cooking but not other sorts....i.e. they do it to show off to their freinds but not everyday......selfish
Antonio's dad used to insist on having mexican every Saturday night. I was made to cut all the littlest bits of fat off the raw beef and chicken, grate the cheese, chop the onions, chop the peppers, all the preparation. Then he would stand there and shot it all in a pan and would take all the credit for it, especially if we had guests. That was him doing the cooking!
which like happened on my birthday he would harp on about it for a week!
although i am pretty sure that in this last week that i had off (half term) that i did more washing up than she did, but i guess that i might be being subjective.
cos they cook and do their own washing and stuff.....its bizarre cos at least there was a previous generation of men who could at least wash and iron and keep their own clothes, make their own bed (national service?)
and that was closer to the 1950s as mentioned in that link ^
But sadly a lot of men still think it's the 50's. You know where the term rule of thumb comes from?
Two thumbs up!
"Ehhhhhhhh" just makes you look rly confused
years ago, a man was allowed to beat his wife with atick as long as it wasn't thicker then his thumb!
And creaky, taking it seriously again with his paragraphs. Meme it up, dude!
But only just. Generally stronger in terms of psychology, but in purely Darwin-esque terms, they are weaker and more unstable, mentally and physically. Frankly, I think it's disgusting that the standards set for a man to be able to join, say, the police force are lowered for a woman. Either you can do the job or you can't, simple as.
I also hate this indie-fop thing where it's like: Worship the Woman! She is Woman, Hear Her Roar! sort of shit.
But men are generally wankers.
I think it's damaging long-term. The fact that a woman is now seen as the head of a household, etc.
I know women who are total divs and blokes who are absolute cunts, and brilliant people from both genders. Buying into this gender divide is holding us back as a species