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could they please maybe...I dunno....Grow-up a little?
Insults are part of life.
I'm quite surprised to see this place so full of childishness tonight. Perhaps I shouldn't be.
however, you're allowed to be insulted by them. just because they exist doesn't mean you have to tolerate them.
most of the people on here who acts like cunts would probably never say that if we were meeting in real life and that is sad.
act like cunts all the time!
But if they aren't threats or things like that I don't really think it's a banning reason.
there's no right to not be offended (c Evan Harris), in a situation like this if someone feels like they're being relentlessly insulted, i'd imagine the terms of the forum say they should complain to the mods, or whatever
that said, mart's not really one to cut deep anyway
I've never seen them!
It's the fact he accused me of sending racist pms when I have actually, in fact, never sent him ANY pm that's pissed me off.
Plus, y'know, rowing in threads is one thing, starting threads attacking other users is another.
"insults are a part of life" wow, what a ridiculous thing to say. Is it now acceptable to abuse people when unprovoked? If someone came up to you in real life and started shouting profanities at you, would you accept it? No.
so Mart then? He's been the really mature one, obviously. This whole thing is a joke, I can't believe how stupid most people are. There is such thing as being too accepting you know, I bet you get walked all over in real life if this is your attitude.
he can attempt to abuse me all he wants. I just don't think it should be tolerated.
people should be allowed to insult people.
Course if they insulted me enough I'd most likely punch them.
but if someone insulted me enough I probably would hit them.
There is a massive difference between the kind of internet bullying that costs lives and affects people throughout the country and being told to fuck off by Martbowski (and I've worked with victims of this sort of thing so, for once, I know whereof I speak): proper 'cyber bullying' is almost always carried out by people you know in real life. Having hurtful things bandied about online by people who know you IRL, who you have to see at school is a massive problem. Some personna you don't know, who you can make go away simply by navigating away from a page or closing a tab isn't (SHOULDN'T BE) a massive deal.
Maybe you need to have a think about separating yourself from your internet personna? Be less Frank and more GS3 when you are on here? I'm not having a go honestly, I think it would genuinely help you.
i love you all
I remember Fishplums saying that anyone who would insult people's looks and such would be warned and then if they did it again would be banned. However, Mart seems to have been let off the hook endless times. Hypocrite!
The fact that Fishplums wouldn't tolerate insults aimed directly at one individual, yet it's been happening shitloads ever since he said it.
but i guess you're saying it so it looks like i made that thread because someone posted a picture of martbowski and i'm defending the guy and all that yeah?
it was personal abuse that was the problem, stemming from something martbowski did before all of that happened and when someone else got involved and it got pretty nasty. it's not the first time it's happened, and some of the times were users you wouldn't expect.
like tim says below, it's kinda shitty if this is a retreat for someone from shit things happening irl and the cycle just continues here because their social skills are a bit lacking and people pounce on that. a lot of people tell themselves that all of this is "a part of life" and it may sound a bit corporate and shitty, but it wouldn't be tolerated in the work place, so why should it be on a music website? if you went to a pub and someone started insulting you, the landlord would make them leave. if coming here is light-hearted pissing in the wind to most, then perhaps this analogy works.
all of this said, i've hardly been on for the last month or so and i'm kinda growing tired of all this fucking endless bitching about people you all don't know. it's gossipy nonsense. it's tabloid bullshit between a load of people who think they're more intelligent than everyone else. goodnight dis.
i only come off as intelligent when the subject is '97-'04 Manchester United or '03 to '06 Bristol Rovers or Maths. certainly not when i'm talking about social constructs and divisions.
to Cureton and Roberts with Lambert in reserve.
they bossed around our defence for a couple of years.
and i know everyone hates him and he was quite lazy, but i reckon Rob Quinn was alright. so many good players have gone so we can balance our books though. just hope the reports that no one wants to buy Rickie Lambert are true - i never rated him but he can't stop scoring (apart from the penalty yesterday..)
He's what 28/29? It would probably be his best chance of playing at a higher level.
We'll find another striker if he does go (we always do) and hopefully a fairly largeish fee would allow us to maybe get those couple of players who would let us really push for promotion.
Quinn has completely slipped my mind.
to about 2001, then moved onto football i could actually watch live with managers i didn't hate.
man city are one of the five or so teams i like seeing win in the premier league; mark hughes was a great player and will prove to be a great manager as long as he avoids a nervous breakdown over all the pressure on his shoulders.
those teams - man city, liverpool, arsenal, aston villa, sunderland, portsmouth.
the idea that insults have to be a part of life is pretty depressing. If somebody has to insult people to make them feel better about themselves then frankly its them that needs to grow up.
Yes on his own, Martbowski probably isn't that much of a problem, but when he's part of a crowd that seem to lay into certain users in a pretty unrelenting way its really not on - it turns into something a lot nastier.
The kind of people who are bullied on here are probably exactly the same people that get bullied in real life, quite specifically because they don't know how to deal with it. I'm sure a certain number of people use these forums to escape that kind of thing and it's pretty shit that they have to suffer the same thing here.
Seriously, its totally unnecessary and incredibly pathetic.
he doesn't really do anything to anyone, ever. He's probably one of the least offensive disers there is.
But he follows KiK around the boards making insults directed solely at him. Not on.
the way KiK is treating this Mart business, it probably doesn't even matter to him anyway to be honest.
Kissinginkansas only posts inflamatory posts for a laugh. I don't see how else you can respond to his stuff except with silly hyperbole. If he was to actually post seriously then people would take him seriously, but he doesn't, he just trolls.
that's the nicest thing you've ever written :)
are you going to propose? and will i be invited to the wedding?
seriously, have you been reading the social board recently?
my enter key is hyper-sensitive, i swear.
...and it doesn't matter what race he is.
for a while they are amusing then it gets annoying. If he was more like 50 50 convo and insults he probably would have been oveerlooked.
He drove me to big macs n triple chocolate milkshakes
It's not the one insulted that should grow up but the one who insults.
That said, people should make the difference between insults as a "joke" or a "game" ( even if it's never funny IMO ) and real personnal attack. Sadly I'm getting the impression there is more and more of the second lately.
in which he bore a striking resemblance to roland from grange hill?
"I'm alright so you should be too." Great. Personally I wouldn't ban him but that's because, like you, his bullshit doesn't bother me.
That said I also don't get in a tizzy over obvious trolling like others seem to or bother to read posts by Pigfoot any more.