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well early, me. mild spoilers i suppose but only what has been officially released by ABC in terms of promotion
Start date:
January 21st - USA
January 25th - UK (sky one)
trailers (10+ variations) :
http://www.sl-lost.com/tag/trailer/
2 minute clip from the season premiere :
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/02/episode-501-because-you-left-sneak-peek/
episode titles confirmed so far:
1: Because You Left
2: The Lie
3: Jughead
4: The Little Prince
5: This Place is Death
6: The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham
comic con teaser video :
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AdWLYVRiin8 (similar to that of The Orchid shown at comic con 2007)
damon lindelof & carlton Q+A session at comic con, previewing series 5:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=podcast#t=3421
what the producers have told us about season 5:
They were disappointed they didn’t get to tell the stories of the freighter folk (presumably beyond the main four), but that they will cover them in season 5, and using a different method (whatever that means).
We will be seeing Claire again, but they’ve said it might be a while, and that it will be explained, and that it will make sense. so possibly not until season 6?
we'll be learning Danielle's story this season but "flashback" isn't right to describe it
Daniel's notebook will feature heavily
We'll learn lots more about Richard & he'll feature more than previous seasons
Jin will still be on the show "in some form"
The show will feature a narrative in a completely different way, so flashbacks and flashforwards don't really work to describe the way the story will be told
i'll be bumping this whenever there's any major news. a month and a bit away.... eeee
Nestor | 03 Dec '08, 19:43 | Send note | Report this | Reply | X
Nice to know that we we'll be right behind
the US broadcast date.
charliepanayi | 3 Dec '08, 20:04 | Reply | X ...
no claire ? :(
harru | 3 Dec '08, 20:09 | Reply | X She needed time off to launch her perfume too
single mum water
definitionofself | 3 Dec '08, 20:14 | Reply | X is Jeremy bentham the creepy guy who doesn't age?
harru | 3 Dec '08, 20:10 | Reply | X that is richard.
jeremy bentham is locke's alias in the future
Nestor | 3 Dec '08, 20:11 | Reply | X I thought richard was the black lady's husband
I was wondering why I'd want to know more about him.
harru | 3 Dec '08, 20:13 | Reply | X that's bernard
oh man, if he got a bigger role this series <3
Nestor | 3 Dec '08, 20:16 | Reply | X Woah!
That Marvin Candle video is mad. What is it? What does it mean?
themighty | 3 Dec '08, 23:52 | Reply | X well
I've only just come across these, but I'd guess that the MC video, and this line - "The show will feature a narrative in a completely different way, so flashbacks and flashforwards don't really work to describe the way the story will be told", makes me think there'll be some sort Back to the Future 2-esque messing with the past....
Knacknud | 4 Dec '08, 00:12 | Reply | X yes and no, i think.
the writers have said in no uncertain terms that everything we've seen has happened or will happen in terms of the flashforwards - and no "time travel" will change anything in the narrative.
HOWEVER, if you look closely at certain elements of the trailer - the dharma stuff, the guy in the yellow jumpsuit (radzinksi?), etc - it backs up a very very popular theory about how the new series will work...
when the island moved, it sorta moved in time - so sawyer, locke, richard and the characters we know will co-exist with past thing on the island - dharma, the black rock, possibly the arrival and backstory of danielle's crew, etc.
i hope so anyway
Nestor | 4 Dec '08, 01:08 | Reply | X Jeremy Bentham is stuffed and on display in UCL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham
TheoGB | 2 Jan '09, 09:30 | Reply | X Wow
So this has got me excited. Next time I'm on a decent computer, I'm all over those trailers.
I hope it's good. I thought it was really good in the 4th season, even if it did have to content with the writers strike.
I'm tempted to re-rent all seasons over the next month or so, to get back upto speed.
colesy | 3 Dec '08, 23:55 | Reply | X Done exactly that.
Although i have all the boxsets already.
Half way through S4 on BluRay atm. Looks so good.
themighty | 4 Dec '08, 00:37 | Reply | X same.
working my way through series 2 right now. best series.
Nestor | 5 Dec '08, 11:23 | Reply | X Surely not?
I can't get through it. I keep going back to Season 2 and it just bores the fuck out of me.
TheoGB | 2 Jan '09, 09:31 | Reply | X hmm, it's definitely seen as the worst.
but like i said somewhere else, i think it's got the most clues and enigmas for die hard fans to go back and watch. granted it didnt make a lot of sense at he time, and there are a few really dud episodes, but i think it laid some amazing groundwork for what the series has become.
the scenes in the hatch are amongst my favourites.
series 3 is a very close 2nd though.
Nestor | 2 Jan '09, 13:17 | Reply | X oh man
Virgin and Sky had their little fight halfway through season 3 (?) so I lost the thread, and just as they get back together and it starts again I'm leaving the country for 6 months. Yer bastards. Oh well...
cyan_again | 4 Dec '08, 01:11 | Reply | X swish
trailer 6 is AWESOME.
guntrip | 4 Dec '08, 07:10 | Reply | X should i watch the 2 minute sneak preview?
i am SO tempted but i want it to all be new :(
Nestor | 5 Dec '08, 11:17 | Reply | X Yeah,
it's nothing. Just Kate being a dick.
themighty | 5 Dec '08, 11:20 | Reply | X damon and carlton <3
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/08/new-dharma-station-logo-and-episode-507-title-revealed/
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r35/enviliga/Stone-Cold-Steve-Austin---Bang-316-.jpg ?
Nestor | 9 Dec '08, 13:19 | Reply | X another sneak peak:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/15/episode-501-because-you-left-2nd-sneak-peek/
my favourite people in the world:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/15/dharma-sa-week-4-damon-and-carlton-answer-to-fans-questions/
promo shots:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/12/complete-untagged-set-of-season-5-cast-promo-photos/
apparent upcoming episode titles:
7 - 316 (confirmed)
8 - LeFleur
9 - Namaste
10 - He's Our You
i so hope 9 is true. dharma <3
Nestor | 16 Dec '08, 01:21 | Reply | X I love you
cowcow | 16 Dec '08, 01:24 | Reply | X ^
alcoholic | 16 Dec '08, 01:26 | Reply | X <3u2.
Nestor | 16 Dec '08, 11:36 | Reply | X So excited
Can you give me a little recap of what happened at the end of the last series. Seems like ages ago now.
And does anyone have BT Vision and know if you can watch Lost on it?
goldenstreams | 16 Dec '08, 12:07 | Reply | X end of series 4 =
hurley, aaron, kate, jack, sun & sayid all left the island. as did desmond, who found penny. as did frank, the helicopter pilot.
the new characters - charlotte, miles & daniel were all left stuck on the island aswell as sawyer, juliet, etc.
ben turned a wheel in one of the dharma stations, and "moved" the island, himself being teleported/transported to tunisia - leaving Locke in charge of Richard & the others...
we're unsure of exactly what has happened to the island as it hasn't been shown yet, so we don't know where (or when) it moves to.
also, in the future, it shows Locke, under the alias of jeremy bentham, to be off the island and dead, in a coffin. Ben meets up with jack and tells him that the oceanic six must return to the island - and Locke's dead body.
Nestor | 16 Dec '08, 12:23 | Reply | X Cheers!
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 14:01 | Reply | X eee
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/18/new-season-5-promo/ - new trailer. best so far, by a mile. so so so good.
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/18/reversed-audio-of-lockes-backwards-voice-on-new-season-promo/ - reversed audio from the start. locke?
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/19/new-season-5-official-posters - quite nice posters
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 11:58 | Reply | X OMFG
that's an amazing trailer. this season is going to be EXCELLENT. i might rewatch my season 2 boxset (it's the only one i have).
eeeeeeeeee!
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 13:00 | Reply | X (L)
i'm currently half way through series 2. ben <3
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 13:03 | Reply | X series two is amazing
there was a thread on here a while ago saying how series two was shit. WTF there's loads of good stuff in series 2. THE HATCH!!!!
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 13:10 | Reply | X hmm, exactly.
i think it's possibly my favourite lost series. tied with 3. i can see why it was frustrating, but i think after it all ends it'll be the most interesting to watch again.
i'm not sure if i'll manage getting through every episode before january 25th but i'm trying my best.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 13:14 | Reply | X When Michael shoots Anna Lucia and t'other one
Probably my favourite WTF moment of all time.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 14:05 | Reply | X WHERE'S MY SON?
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 15:56 | Reply | X WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:14 | Reply | X I decided
That Ben is without doubt the greatest character ever invented in television, or indeed any medium. There are just so many levels to him and twists and turns to his character. It also helps that Michael Emerson is a fantastic actor.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 14:06 | Reply | X yeah! people laugh at me when i tell them he's the finest actor of
this generation but it's SO TRUE. you only have to look at episode 4.9.
i think he's amazing in series 2 aswell, introduced really well. sorta understated and manipulative and brilliant. but obviously series 4 he just makes the series his, totally.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 15:52 | Reply | X He is INCREDIBLE
You literally feel every emotion towards that character at some point: fear, anger, sympathy etc and it's all down to the brilliance of the actor.
Which episode is 4.9? When his daughter gets killed?
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 15:58 | Reply | X yeah
absolutely incredible episode / performance. best of last series.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:04 | Reply | X wasn't he originally supposed to be a small part
but when they realised he was such a good actor they kept him in?
i read that somewhere and i hope it's true because it's a great fact :D
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 15:58 | Reply | X tis true
was only meant to be in 5 episodes
sharp_yet_blunt | 19 Dec '08, 16:00 | Reply | X remember wehn he was in xfiles
dukebox | 19 Dec '08, 16:01 | Reply | X no but i remember seeing him in saw
happiest moment of that movie.
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:02 | Reply | X in xfiles he was a dude who had telekenitc powers and could change places to be wehrever he wanted tehm to be so he made his house teh brady bunch house
it was like the second tolast ever episode
dukebox | 19 Dec '08, 16:04 | Reply | X SPOOKY
that's kind of like ben in lost...sort of.
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:05 | Reply | X That sounds amazing
I shouldn't have gave up at Series 7.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 16:06 | Reply | X :D :D :D
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYlnqH7BIo
ARE YOU JACOB?
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:13 | Reply | X i've heard that, yeah.
they'd always planned for a ben-type character later on, so i guess they just chose for him to fill that role, and thank god they did.
i always wonder how much they decide to change / make up as the series continues.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:02 | Reply | X whatever happened with that whole nikki/paulo buried alive thing?
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:04 | Reply | X They are coming back this series
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 16:07 | Reply | X i think that was just a reaction
to the fan feedback and negativity. killing them off in the most brutal way possible, aswell as having lando from star wars, etc to keep the fans happy.
i don't think they were ever going to be important, just series 3 needed some new characters, and they were killed off prematurely.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:12 | Reply | X I thought that episode was fantastic.
People who don't like it are silly.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 16:20 | Reply | X did yuo liek wehn ben was prisoner and eko went and told him about wehn hearrived on teh island and killed two dudes w/ his bare hands and ben said why did you tell me taht and eko said i gotta tell someone
dukebox | 19 Dec '08, 15:59 | Reply | X yeah!
and then he cut off his beardy bit. that was the last episode i watched actually. really good scene.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:05 | Reply | X no one on drownedinsound is interesting.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 12:41 | Reply | X that's not very nice, nestor.
scarlet_apples | 19 Dec '08, 13:39 | Reply | X but it's troof
when no-one will speak to me about lost
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 15:23 | Reply | X I will
Last hour of work on a Friday seems like a good time to talk about Lost.
I put a couple of comments up there ^^
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 15:41 | Reply | X im excited about new lost
dukebox | 19 Dec '08, 15:44 | Reply | X i love you.
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 15:50 | Reply | X I'm usually quiet until I have watched the first episode
SOrry neso
cowcow | 19 Dec '08, 15:51 | Reply | X you better contribute in my first episode mega thread.
<3
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 15:53 | Reply | X I'll be here
Providing I can watch it on BT Vision at the same time as it is on Sky.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 15:58 | Reply | X I might
I'll probably torrent it at 4am or so
cowcow | 19 Dec '08, 16:03 | Reply | X who's everyone's favourite minor character?
mine is vincent <3 <3 <3
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:00 | Reply | X Steve
Or was it Scott?
cowcow | 19 Dec '08, 16:05 | Reply | X oh man <3 <3 <3
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:07 | Reply | X I like the dog
what's the dog called again?
trans-siberian | 19 Dec '08, 16:05 | Reply | X VINCENT!
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:06 | Reply | X VINCENT!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW9vw_ZmmI
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:10 | Reply | X :D superdog!
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:15 | Reply | X Bernhard
.
Or does Charles Whidmore count? He's pretty important but hasn't appeared much so far.
charliepanayi | 19 Dec '08, 16:06 | Reply | X Nah
Both of them have been in it too much to be considered 'minor'.
OMG remember when Bernard and his wife (the name escapes me) were first reunited? I wept like a baby.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 16:21 | Reply | X BERNARD!
or marvin candle / pierre chang, etc
Nestor | 19 Dec '08, 16:07 | Reply | X Farraday
defo.
themighty | 19 Dec '08, 23:54 | Reply | X Driveshaft
Balonz | 19 Dec '08, 16:07 | Reply | X haha. i had the driveshaft song as my myspace profile song in season 2
<3 charlie
shes_so_high | 20 Dec '08, 00:01 | Reply | X Kate's mom
She was in Sabrina.
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 16:08 | Reply | X aunt zelda!
wishpig | 19 Dec '08, 16:10 | Reply | X Totally
goldenstreams | 19 Dec '08, 16:20 | Reply | X oh. my. god
a little bit of wee just came out
Vian | 19 Dec '08, 16:20 | Reply | X Desmond>Ben>Locke>
Sayid>Sawyer>Sun>Jin>Hurley>Juliet>Claire>Jack>Kate
themighty | 19 Dec '08, 23:52 | Reply | X pretty tempting? -
http://www.sl-lost.com/2008/12/24/lost-in-paris/
i dont even get it. but its a nice poster.
Nestor | 28 Dec '08, 00:09 | Reply | X i got the series 4 DVDs for christmas
:D
guntrip | 28 Dec '08, 10:00 | Reply | X i watched seven episodes yesterday
guntrip | 2 Jan '09, 08:44 | Reply | X hero.
Nestor | 2 Jan '09, 13:15 | Reply | X I wish I hadn't sold my 1&2 on the ebays
cowcow | 2 Jan '09, 14:16 | Reply | X i have all 4 now
<3
guntrip | 2 Jan '09, 14:23 | Reply | X FINISHED SEASON 4 TODAY
"time travelling bunnies? yes"
guntrip | 4 Jan '09, 19:13 | Reply | X so the first two episodes have been released to the press
and everywhere's gone spoiler mad apparently. from the non-spoiler reviews i've read it's pretty unanimously "INCREDIBLE".
bye internet for a few weeks
Nestor | 1 Jan '09, 20:28 | Reply | X Anyone on here who posts spoilers
will feel my wrath
cowcow | 1 Jan '09, 20:30 | Reply | X LOST awards
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/04/sl-lostcom-awards/#more-1155
i voted:
michael emerson
evangeline lilly
desmond in the hatch
"we have to go back"
through the looking glass
season 3
matthew abaddon
<3
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 17:45 | Reply | X the guy who plays Matthew Abaddon is in Fringe as well
i can't divorce the two characters, i keep thinking "NO PACEY, DON'T TRUST HIM, HE'S EVIL!!!"
guntrip | 4 Jan '09, 19:15 | Reply | X yeah
is fringe good? i started watching purely for lance reddick. i only saw the first few episodes and gave up. have the rest taped though...
apparently he's in the wire too. also, recognise the cop at 0:12? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn6tq6IS3jg
i love matthew abaddon so much. creepiest guy ever. its the eyes: http://sklad.ggbit.info/lost/screencaps/4x01/Matthew_Abaddon.png
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 19:22 | Reply | X i've only watched 1-3 of fringe so far
enjoying it but that's mostly because it's just pacey and his crazy dad solving mysteries.
guntrip | 4 Jan '09, 19:46 | Reply | X Hey Nestor
There's a feature about lost in this months Empire. I've just glanced at it so far (been too busy to read it properly) it's got a cool map of the island that I'd not seen before. I thought you might like to know if you weren't already aware.
stormcrow | 4 Jan '09, 18:51 | Reply | X already seen it :D
thanks.
it's a really good feature. nothing i didn't know before really, but the map is really nice.
also apparently they can get sued for 50 MILLION DOLLARS if they revealed any secrets or spoilers they'd seen on set. amazing.
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 19:02 | Reply | X if anyone's interested:
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/87f54be6caa46516312fea5223bf1efd.jpg
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/e1226ed97e45561eeb0af0db55ea72fc.jpg
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/4dd45873af02e8d538ac95def6c310b0.jpg
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/f71153ede3122719fb475ea90db3dc3d.jpg
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/9d9b3040751ac4c208e5a55a84448e19.jpg
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/5f3ee781504ba16dcd70da5cc33a4d7f.jpg
think there are some really mild spoilers. if you don't want to know anything.
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 19:07 | Reply | X hotlinking is not allowed
cowcow | 4 Jan '09, 19:19 | Reply | X ah
http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/01/empire-magazine-scans.html
dont worry about the link. i was linked to it myself.
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 19:27 | Reply | X neat
although Frank's entry is totally wrong. surely they're thinking of Faraday?
guntrip | 4 Jan '09, 19:31 | Reply | X which bit do you mean?
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 19:33 | Reply | X the character profiles along the bottom
frank's is totally wrong, it says he got left behind on the island when he.. um.. didn't.
guntrip | 4 Jan '09, 19:39 | Reply | X aaah.
yeah, that is wrong
Nestor | 4 Jan '09, 19:42 | Reply | X :O
promotion started on sky one.
confirmed definitely for the 25th. TWO episodes at 9pm.
eeeeeeeee.
Nestor | 12 Jan '09, 12:08 | Reply | X Bloody hell,
this thread has got me so excited for the new series!
I probably need to go over series 4 again so its all fresh in my mind but im sure it'll come back to me when this new season gets going!
earnse | 12 Jan '09, 13:11 | Reply | X Is there no game to play along with for this series?
earnse | 12 Jan '09, 13:14 | Reply | X there's this:
http://www.ajiraairways.com/
i'm a bit unsure what it's all about though.
Nestor | 12 Jan '09, 13:16 | Reply | X Hmm I might have a go at this later.
I remember completing find815 last series, or was it the series before?
that was pretty fun.
There was some dharma sign up test not too long ago where you could recieve a membership card and everything if i remember correctly.
I passed the test to become a member but never sent off for a card...
Think a mate of mine did though!
earnse | 12 Jan '09, 13:21 | Reply | X the dharma sign up thing was abandoned due to the credit crunch, apparently.
not too bothered.
i like the little games, but i don't really think they offer anything to the overall mythology of the show. find815 and the lost experience, etc were pretty good ways of building hype for the series though.
i wish we had mobisodes this year. those were worth it.
Nestor | 12 Jan '09, 13:24 | Reply | X I never actually saw the mobisodes to be honest
and all the flights seem to be booked up on destination destiny...
what do I have to fill my time with now until the new series starts!
earnse | 12 Jan '09, 13:29 | Reply | X watch the mobisodes!
theyre really good.
http://lostmobisodes.blogspot.com/
Nestor | 12 Jan '09, 13:31 | Reply | X if you put these details in it lets you 'book a seat'
Flight type: One Way
From: Los Angeles, CA
To: Guam
Departing: 1/21/2009
Select Flight: 316 11:30am
Adults: 10
Children: 0
Promotional Code: 112114111109111
You get a boarding pass you can print out, and there are little pictures that flash up if you click on seats that are booked up.
trans-siberian | 16 Jan '09, 12:13 | Reply | X can anyone recommend
a good torrent site to download from? i no have sky, and don't fancy spending 8 hours hanging about to only find out it's the spanish overdub...
keveddy | 12 Jan '09, 13:16 | Reply | X they will be up here as soon as their out.
www.rslog.net
sharp_yet_blunt | 12 Jan '09, 22:13 | Reply | X cheers thats awesome!
earnse | 12 Jan '09, 13:36 | Reply | X sneeeeeaaak peeeeaaaak:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/14/new-season-5-sneak-peek/
looks really good. i really wasnt expecting to see anymore of that stuff so this makes me even more excited.
also i'm pretty much 100% satisfied with the level of information the sneak peaks and trailers have revealed. just enough to speculate and get excited about but nothing's been spoiled for me at all.
press releases and guest stars for the first few have been revealed, but i've successfully avoided those aswell as any reviews giving anything away.
TEN DAYS EEEEE
a week until the US premiere
Nestor | 15 Jan '09, 01:05 | Reply | X can't wait
cowcow | 15 Jan '09, 01:09 | Reply | X i like this one
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/15/season-5-sneak-peek-4/
BRUTAL
guntrip | 16 Jan '09, 12:44 | Reply | X hurley is such a tit
cowcow | 16 Jan '09, 20:28 | Reply | X i cant stop laughing at the dishwasher bit
cowcow | 16 Jan '09, 20:30 | Reply | X "come in, Others"
might be one of my favourite Lost things ever though
guntrip | 20 Jan '09, 12:27 | Reply | X Badass
Sayid is the fucking best.
themighty | 16 Jan '09, 21:23 | Reply | X LOSTLOSTLOSTLOSTLOSTLOSTLOSTLOSTLOST
9 days. i'm going a bit mad :(
two new sneak peaks online - www.sl-lost.com - not gonna watch them myself.
Nestor | 16 Jan '09, 20:19 | Reply | X The penultimate series :-(
Dammnit. Seeing that just bought it home.
themighty | 16 Jan '09, 21:21 | Reply | X aaaaaaaaaaaargh
sunday
tomorrow in america
most exciting week of the year except for maybe finale week
Nestor | 20 Jan '09, 10:56 | Reply | X EXCITING TIMES!
I've been rewatching season 4 to get back in the mood. So much love for this show. Even when I know what's going to happen I'm like 'OMG what's going on?!?! What's going to happen!?!? Aaaaaagh!'. Lots of rewatch potential.
I'm kind of glad that it's the penultimate series (even though I will cry when it is over) because it means they're going to be wrapping it up. If it was just going to drag on forever I would eventually get bored, and that would suck.
So basically, I am EXCITED!!
trans-siberian | 20 Jan '09, 11:02 | Reply | X REALLY ANNOYING
sky 1 is on virgin media tv thingy, right? it's not getting put in at my new place until monday >:(
guntrip | 20 Jan '09, 12:26 | Reply | X Nah, it's not
Zapsta | 20 Jan '09, 12:28 | Reply | X yeah it is
channel 121. They fell out for a year or so, but quietly made up recently. So you can watch Lost on Virgin! Hurrah!
trans-siberian | 20 Jan '09, 12:44 | Reply | X I have BT Vision
and I kinda thought you could order the new episodes On Demand, but I think now it's actually just the first three series. Damn not being able to get Sky in my flat.
I might have to get my dad to tape them and send them up each week. I don't like watching things online.
goldenstreams | 20 Jan '09, 12:31 | Reply | X TONIGHT, downloaders
Nestor | 21 Jan '09, 16:59 | Reply | X I'm almost creaming
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 18:41 | Reply | X is htis rly gonna be on internet tonite
dukebox | 21 Jan '09, 18:50 | Reply | X bout 3 or 4 am dukebox
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 18:56 | Reply | X although its a double so maybe 5 or 6 am
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 18:56 | Reply | X oh cool thanks
dukebox | 21 Jan '09, 20:16 | Reply | X OMG OMG OMG!!!
shes_so_high | 21 Jan '09, 20:15 | Reply | X shes_so_excited
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 21:22 | Reply | X I'm going out on Sunday night
so no talk until Tuesday thanks.
Balonz | 21 Jan '09, 17:00 | Reply | X How about YOU stay outta this thread until Tuesday, Blonza
:D
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 18:41 | Reply | X Fuck you cwocwo
Balonz | 22 Jan '09, 09:03 | Reply | X How is this thread official?
I'm thinking it's very much unofficial.
drakepress | 21 Jan '09, 20:16 | Reply | X mmm, i have my values, so i'll be watching on sunday and making threads
for each episode.
away from the internet thursday - sunday, i think from now on. which is good.
Nestor | 21 Jan '09, 20:47 | Reply | X You disgust me
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 21:21 | Reply | X So excited.
Are we 'allowed' to talk about it on here if we download and watch on Thursdays??
themighty | 21 Jan '09, 21:26 | Reply | X vicnent dies
cowcow | 21 Jan '09, 22:00 | Reply | X okay.
on very soon. god, i wish i lived in america. eeee. aargh.
worth watching these to catch up:
http://www.sl-lost.com/tag/in-preparation-for-season-5/
awards winners:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/21/sl-lostcom-awards-winners/
nothing too surprising
Nestor | 22 Jan '09, 00:36 | Reply | X wow
only ep 2 is out so far. how can they fuck up the biggest release of the year?!
sharp_yet_blunt | 22 Jan '09, 06:41 | Reply | X hahaha
that's amazing. do i download number 2 now or wait?
guntrip | 22 Jan '09, 08:57 | Reply | X ep 1 is out now
it is good
sharp_yet_blunt | 22 Jan '09, 09:41 | Reply | X Ledge
Zapsta | 22 Jan '09, 09:44 | Reply | X Where do people download episodes from?
And are they good quality? Can you put them on DVD and watch them on telly?
Sorry, I am a bit thick with these sort of things.
goldenstreams | 22 Jan '09, 10:50 | Reply | X here...
http://www.rlslog.net/losts05e01becauseyoulefthdtvxvid-2hd/
links in the comments. recorded from HDTV so yes good enough to put on DVD.
sharp_yet_blunt | 22 Jan '09, 10:52 | Reply | X Thanks!
Which is the right link to go for?
Also, how do you burn to DVD? Do you need a DVD Writer thingy? I'm not sure if my laptop can do that.
goldenstreams | 22 Jan '09, 11:16 | Reply | X any of the links will work
yes you'll need to see if your laptop has a dvd writer and then get some blank dvds.
george_oscar | 22 Jan '09, 11:21 | Reply | X Is that just the first episode or the first two combined?
If it's just the first do you know where I can find the second episode?
goldenstreams | 22 Jan '09, 23:58 | Reply | X A message to the downloaders:
Let's not discuss stuff in this thread, eh? If we play this right, we could have a solid 1000+ thread on our hands here over the coming weeks
Also, Sunday night will be amazing
Double episode of The Hills and then double episode of Lost. I think Doritos and dip are well in order
dove_from_above | 22 Jan '09, 10:54 | Reply | X Generation Kill on FX as well
no idea what The Hills is though...
Balonz | 22 Jan '09, 11:24 | Reply | X The Hills is amazing
It's complete pointless 'reality' television, full of vaccuous and impossibly good looking (well, Lauren) and rich 20-somethings from LA. Sounds awful, and it should be, but it's really not
Great shout about Generation Kill. That'll be resigned to Sky+
dove_from_above | 22 Jan '09, 11:31 | Reply | X tonight - most exciting event of the year?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Nestor | 25 Jan '09, 12:23 | Reply | X no
that was thursday
george_oscar | 25 Jan '09, 12:24 | Reply | X :D
cowcow | 25 Jan '09, 12:42 | Reply | X Desmond dies
Zapsta | 25 Jan '09, 12:47 | Reply | X Kate dies
Zapsta | 25 Jan '09, 12:48 | Reply | X Jack dies
Zapsta | 25 Jan '09, 12:48 | Reply | X Hurley doesn't die
Zapsta | 25 Jan '09, 12:48 | Reply | X Aaron dies!
cowcow | 25 Jan '09, 12:52 | Reply | X wow
totally didn't realise this was starting again tonight. amazing news
MarkP | 25 Jan '09, 15:40 | Reply | X i watched 1 and 2 earlier
no spoilers but they're both a lot of fun. YAY! LOST IS BACK!
guntrip | 25 Jan '09, 15:56 | Reply | X its
on! so far so good
MarkP | 25 Jan '09, 21:35 | Reply | X BRILLIANT
http://i44.tinypic.com/2n1c31c.gif
wishpig | 25 Jan '09, 22:52 | Reply | X Ben's confused and disapproving eye-narrowing
= Awesome. He's a great actor, that bloke.
Browno | 25 Jan '09, 22:56 | Reply | X i like 2008-ben
he looks like an arms dealer
guntrip | 26 Jan '09, 07:52 | Reply | X absolutely incredible.
because you left is one of the best episodes i've ever, ever seen. top 5 maybe.
Nestor | 25 Jan '09, 23:21 | Reply | X Last 2 minutes of the second episode >>>>>>>>>>>> every part of every other episode ever
Zapsta | 26 Jan '09, 00:02 | Reply | X nah, i honestly think
"we have to go back" betters everything i've ever, or will see, on screen. or read. or anything else.
but it was still dead good. desmond's dream was my favourite part of the two episodes though
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 00:05 | Reply | X Okay, steady
Zapsta | 26 Jan '09, 00:07 | Reply | X Also, reasons why the last 2 minutes were good:
It had the church.
It had time-travel woman.
It had Ben not being the highest in command and looking scared.
It had the phrase "Then God help us all". (Actually, that bit was rubbish. Some of the scripting was really, really cheesy - has it always been like that? Story-wise though, the writing's been ACE. I was worried there wouldn't be much left to discover and everything would just run it's course now, but it hasn't at all.)
Zapsta | 26 Jan '09, 00:11 | Reply | X you really think that was better than the series 3 last bit?
just absolute perfection.
"the church" one in particular or just a church? or i'm missing something.
i thought the scripting was pretty good :( and that line in particular was good linkage to the whole orchid stuff at the start with marvin candle
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 00:15 | Reply | X Just a church
Churches are always cool. Fingers crossed for a religious subplot.
Zapsta | 26 Jan '09, 00:21 | Reply | X i've only seen the first series
i bet you envy me
Shuffles | 26 Jan '09, 00:05 | Reply | X i'm going to go to sleep and make a megapost tomorrow.
so much to talk about.
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 00:26 | Reply | X We can't even make
FIREEEEEE!
treborforever | 26 Jan '09, 00:37 | Reply | X I loved how they built that character up and killed him off in about 20 minutes
cowcow | 26 Jan '09, 01:04 | Reply | X I wish they'd stop doing that
All but one of the "tailies" were killed off within a season of appearing. What the fuck's the point?
Zapsta | 26 Jan '09, 01:08 | Reply | X poor old Frogurt
mentioned for four seasons, finally appears, and then BOOM.
guntrip | 26 Jan '09, 07:49 | Reply | X he was a cock though
I laughed when he died. Bwuahahahaha!
trans-siberian | 26 Jan '09, 09:09 | Reply | X :D :D :D
http://lostmobisodes.blogspot.com/2007/11/missing-piece-2-adventures-of-hurley.html
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 11:27 | Reply | X anyone see the
Iain Lee specials before/after lost was on?
i'm astounded - they intimated that they were filming only episode 9/10 of the series. and Jack/Kate/Hurley were back on the island, in the past (i assume) - looking as if joining the dharma initiative!
(that's all complete speculation and very possibly wrong, but that's what it looked like!)
andyg52 | 26 Jan '09, 01:00 | Reply | X Yeah apparently they only film it a wee bit in advance of it going out
There are these emails from the Dharma Initiative thing where two of the producers (Carlton and Damon) give you wee updates, and they were the guys doing the chat on the show I think.
In the most recent one he was saying in one week they were showing the press episode three, while simultaneously 'working on breaking the last five episodes, writing episodes twelve and thirteen, production is shooting eleven, we're editing seven, eight, nine and ten, and on the post end of things we are finishing the CG work, ADR, sound and mixing on episodes four, five and six'.
I don't know what 'breaking' means in this context, but it sure sounds like they're flying by the seat of their pants. Seems to work for them though!
trans-siberian | 26 Jan '09, 09:20 | Reply | X yeah
i was more surprised as to what looked like the content of the episode, back on the island so quick! (speculation)
they definitely do fly by the seat of their pants, as you said. 'breaking' is when writers get together and come up with the episodes stories etc.
andyg52 | 26 Jan '09, 11:07 | Reply | X ahhh
I didn't see that then, that sounds mental though. I'm looking forward to seeing how that all pans out!
trans-siberian | 26 Jan '09, 11:37 | Reply | X so...
the whispers from previous seasons = people from a different time on the island? Dont know if that even makes sense. Also so the bit in season 1 when Locke loses the ability to walk was that down to him begin shot which we saw in this episode, bit of a tenous link i guess.
The island constantly moving is a great vehicle for revealing the secrets of the island. imo if we dont see the four toed statue in its original form/ the people from the black rock/the creation of the smoke monster this series then they'll have really dropped the ball.
sharp_yet_blunt | 26 Jan '09, 08:08 | Reply | X he couldnt walk cause of his Dad pushed him out of a window, right?
millionaire | 26 Jan '09, 08:58 | Reply | X ya but
when boone dies does locke not lose the use of his legs or something. I really cant remember that well though so there might have been another reason for it.
sharp_yet_blunt | 26 Jan '09, 09:09 | Reply | X yeah
i'm sure he was a window cripple
MarkP | 26 Jan '09, 09:05 | Reply | X One question:
Who was the woman in the church? I recognise her, but can't place her?
Charlemagne | 26 Jan '09, 09:08 | Reply | X she was the woman who didn't want to sell Desmond the engagement ring
when he was having his flashbacks / time mentalness. She was all like 'you don't buy the ring Desmond', but then he did, which ties in with Farrady being all 'the rules don't apply to you, Desmond!', which is mental.
So glad this show is back
trans-siberian | 26 Jan '09, 09:12 | Reply | X also
that woman=farradays mum?
sharp_yet_blunt | 26 Jan '09, 09:18 | Reply | X I thought that
cos Desmond has to go and see Farraday's mum at Oxford. Dunno if that church is at Oxford, cos Ben was in the US doing all his Sayid / Hurley capturing, and then went to see her.
Definitely possible, but I'm not sure if they are the same person. I hope not, cos that woman seems evil and creepy, and I <3 Farraday!
trans-siberian | 26 Jan '09, 09:23 | Reply | X anyone else thinking that the english guy
who captured juliet and sawyer is a young widmore?
wishpig | 26 Jan '09, 09:44 | Reply | X riiiight. episode 1 + 2:
time travel:
time travel gives me headaches, and i guess they can use it in a number of ways. however, LOST seems to be using it in a style of, as faraday says, "whatever happened, happened", meaning you can't change the future - everything that happens in the show now through time travel, did actually happen in the past mythology of the island. i.e. no one can "go back" and save charlie, eko, or anyone else.
this opens up a massive range of possibilities for things to come, i.e. answers about dharma, the black rock, the volcano / incident, four toed statue, danielle's team, etc ETC. eeee
it also opens up the possibility for lots of links - theories floating about at the moment suggest that the "others" that Jin and Eko saw back in series 2 whilst hiding in the bush, are actually Sawyer, Locke, Juliet, etc.
that "Adam and Eve" are two present characters on the island - ben and jack? could be desmond and penny, faraday & charlotte, etc... - my guess is the first.
also, i'm guessing the "hostiles" who influenced ben, could be sawyer, juliet, everyone who's present on the island - as the opening scene suggested this will be a theme of the series - marvin candle said something about "researching the island's original inhabitants", so i think the hostiles, dharma and time travel are the major themes of this series (just as the hatch in series 2, the oceanic ix in series 4, the others in series 3, etc)
HOWEVER, if everything that happened, did actually happen, there are one or two things to be elaborated on...
why wouldn't desmond remember faraday? HOWEVER, there is a major case to suggest Desmond's mind went crazy when the hatch exploded, and if you look back to how Desmond looks at Faraday on the freighter in series 4, there is some definite linking / confusement - also the stuff about "desmond being [faraday's] constant"
the other thing is Ethan not remembering Locke - although he might do, as back in series 1, Locke is the only character Ethan "bonds" with. will be quite interesting to go back and watch them together....
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other stuff:
i'm almost CERTAIN ms. hawking is faraday's mum, as this photo was found back in series 3 - http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/7/7f/Camhawk.jpg - briefly on the monk's desk in a desmond flashback, with the background looking very very similar to oxford, the oxford set used in 'the constant'
ALSO - Miles: Marvin Candle's son? him being born (perhaps the last or one of the last people to be?) on the island might explain his powers, and there is a definite resemblance, and similarity with characters
the english guys, i have no idea about... never been mentioned before. could certainly be widmore or part of widmore's group at least - seem to pre-date dharma - 50s, maybe?, and lostpedia theories page says: "Based on the facial structure, accent, arrogance, reference to the island as "his", the main guy could certainly be widmore.
ALSO, with his fondness for cutting off limbs, it could explain marvin candle / pierre chang's loss of an arm (he has it in some videos and not in others), "montand" (danielle's crew) losing an arm, too. this leads me to think those british guys could actually be "the hostiles"...
the off-island stuff i found a lot less interesting, but still pretty good; especially the appearance of ana lucia, which means we could maybe be seeing more cameos from past people? we BETTER see more libby...
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rating:
because you left: 10
the lie: 7
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worth looking at:
episode 1, recap and theories:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/24/501-because-you-left-gitsie-girl/
episode 2, recap and theories:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/25/the-lie-recap-gitsie-girl/
video re-cap for episode 1:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/25/sl-lost-podcast-because-you-left-recap/
lost initiative podcast for both episodes:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/25/the-lost-initiative-0125-video-podcast/
official LOST podcast with jorge garcia (hurley) :
official LOST podcast with Damon & Carlton:
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next week:
Jughead
no idea about this episode, who's in it, what happens, but there's a serious buzz about it amongst critics, supposedly one of the best ever episodes...
sneak peak:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/25/episode-503-jughead-sneak-peek-1/
promo:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/01/24/episode-503-jughead-abc-promo-3/
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oman. probably even more to say but i've only watched it through once and am forgetting lots.
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 11:25 | Reply | X ilu
trans-siberian | 26 Jan '09, 11:41 | Reply | X i meant kate and jack,
not ben and jack,
obvs.
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 11:49 | Reply | X as adam and eve.
Nestor | 26 Jan '09, 12:10 | Reply | X I immediate thought that about Miles when you saw Marvin Chandle at the start
The time travel thing is interesting. The writers must have to cross reference themselves SO much to make sure they don't leave any holes. The fact that we might now know that people in previous episodes may have met each other previously must make it pretty tricky
I really, really want to know about the statue
dove_from_above | 26 Jan '09, 14:09 | Reply | X Incredible post
Are you going to treat us to one of these every week?
goldenstreams | 27 Jan '09, 09:36 | Reply | X if a few people read it,
then yes :D
Nestor | 27 Jan '09, 16:10 | Reply | X great post man
Vian | 29 Jan '09, 12:33 | Reply | X tell me if i'm being stupid
but how does time travel explain why the island disappears from sight when the Oceanic 6 are on the helicopter getting away?
MarkP | 26 Jan '09, 14:25 | Reply | X because
at the end of this episode you see the old womans map and theres various points on it so the island not only moves in time but in location aswell.
sharp_yet_blunt | 26 Jan '09, 14:49 | Reply | X but
faraday appears to be of the opinion that it's the survivors moving in time, rather than the island. the others all vanishing adds to this.
guntrip | 27 Jan '09, 12:39 | Reply | X He said it could be either.
He didn't know for sure.
themighty | 29 Jan '09, 18:31 | Reply | X Richard said it's them moving through time, not the island
Zapsta | 30 Jan '09, 01:11 | Reply | X You're not stupid
It just doesn't make sense.
Zapsta | 30 Jan '09, 01:08 | Reply | X I wish I could remember the Desmond/Faraday in Oxford episode better.
I might have to go and read up on it. Also what is all this talk of Adam & Eve - did I miss something? And what is Sun up to?
I loved the scene where Hurley explained everything that happened on the island to his mum. It's the age old story isn't it?
goldenstreams | 27 Jan '09, 09:39 | Reply | X it was good
you could see how relieved Hurley was by finally getting it off his chest. And it was nice that she believed him, even though it sounded so totally mental. Awww.
trans-siberian | 27 Jan '09, 09:44 | Reply | X http://abcmedianet.com/web/dnr/dispDNR.aspx?id=011209_07
"Desmond goes in search of Faraday's mother who could be the key to helping Daniel stop the island's erratic movements through time, and Locke discovers the identity of the unknown forces who have been attacking the survivors."
millionaire | 27 Jan '09, 12:12 | Reply | X this is the best recap by far...
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2009/01/because-you-left-recap-and-analysis-by.html
i don't agree with the repressed memories stuff with sawyer / rose / locke, but its such an interesting theory. so much can be looked into now in series 1...
Nestor | 27 Jan '09, 16:11 | Reply | X My head hurts
dove_from_above | 27 Jan '09, 16:50 | Reply | X really good theory a friend of mine came up with:
that Faraday calculates that the time jumps are 108 minutes apart, and when he goes back to DHARMA, is the one who originally comes up with the button and computer, etc, in the hatch?
wooouuuld be amazing
Nestor | 28 Jan '09, 11:41 | Reply | X Oooooh
that is cunning as fuck. So the machine is to stop the time skips which occur every 108 minutes. I <3 Farrady
trans-siberian | 28 Jan '09, 11:44 | Reply | X Oooooh
that is cunning as fuck. So the machine is to stop the time skips which occur every 108 minutes. I <3 Farraday
trans-siberian | 28 Jan '09, 11:44 | Reply | X so they have to press the button every 108 minutes to stop jumping through time?
but the hatch with the button was destroyed, so wouldn't the island have kept jumping every 108 minutes since then?
IndieAndy_Jones | 28 Jan '09, 11:44 | Reply | X lost is awesome huh
dukebox | 28 Jan '09, 11:46 | Reply | X Not if the fail-safe key turned it off
and then the icy wheel started it again.
Balonz | 28 Jan '09, 11:46 | Reply | X hmm yes i see
there's always an answer or theory for everything.
I think I'll give up thinking about Lost and just watch it 'dumbly' and enjoy the pretty colours...and Kate's bum
IndieAndy_Jones | 28 Jan '09, 11:49 | Reply | X yeah, i'm not entirely sure about the details of it really.
but i like it a lot. definitely more happened than we were told when the hatch originally imploded.
Nestor | 28 Jan '09, 11:47 | Reply | X yeah, i'm not entirely sure about the details of it really.
but i like it a lot. definitely more happened than we were told when the hatch originally imploded.
Nestor | 28 Jan '09, 11:47 | Reply | X That is a really cool theory.
Lost really is great. When it's on I tend to think about it at least every 2 minutes.
goldenstreams | 28 Jan '09, 11:50 | Reply | X 3rd ep is amazing
better than the first two i thought.
sharp_yet_blunt | 29 Jan '09, 12:15 | Reply | X brilliant episode
cowcow | 29 Jan '09, 13:46 | Reply | X nrrrrr
must not download will wait for sunday nrrrrr
guntrip | 29 Jan '09, 13:50 | Reply | X hehe
it took me leik thiry minutes to dl it yh
cowcow | 29 Jan '09, 14:01 | Reply | X ***SPOILERS FOR EP 3 IN THIS POST READ AT YOUR OWN PERIL***
wishpig was right! it is widmore. The bit where john realises its him is pretty cool. Hope we get to see some young Widmore/Ben battles on the island
The blonde girl who Farraday says looks familiar is his mum!! Theorising its highly likely that widmore is his dad seen as he was funding his research n everything and it would all fit together. The bomb must be the source of all that energy at the hatch then since farraday told them to bury it in concrete and they couldnt seem to get through that big wall of concrete. I wonder why we saw farraday there at the start of ep 1.
Going back to the scene where Alpert goes to se Locke as a child, it all makes sense now. +1 to the writers. I hope the next flash sends them further back in time to the black rock, or statue.
sharp_yet_blunt | 29 Jan '09, 16:35 | Reply | X ah man you shouldnt have posted spoilers already
youre spoiling the sunday crew's fun lol
but yeah, i think they are gonna find out about the black rock in the next episode or two
cowcow | 29 Jan '09, 16:40 | Reply | X How do you know it's his mum?
Are you guessing? Is that a spoiler? I thought you meant it was a spoiler post for people who haven't seen the episode yet :(
Zapsta | 30 Jan '09, 01:09 | Reply | X its a pretty good guess i would say
the clues:
The old woman we saw at the end of the 2nd episode we know is called Eloise Hawking. She was in LA with Ben.
Desmond is on a mission to find Farradays mum who he now knows is in LA.
Richard Alpert referred to the blonde girl on the island as Ellie. Farraday says that she looks familiar.
sharp_yet_blunt | 30 Jan '09, 01:20 | Reply | X i could be wrong mind you
too many coincidences though
sharp_yet_blunt | 30 Jan '09, 01:22 | Reply | X Oh yeah
Ellie, Eloise... That makes sense. I think we're all forgetting the most important thing though.
Zapsta | 30 Jan '09, 01:22 | Reply | X ?
sharp_yet_blunt | 30 Jan '09, 01:26 | Reply | X She's hot
Zapsta | 30 Jan '09, 01:28 | Reply | X :D
cowcow | 30 Jan '09, 01:35 | Reply | X true
makes up for the lack of kate.
sharp_yet_blunt | 30 Jan '09, 01:52 | Reply | X id say it more thn makes up for it sharpy
she's pretty fine
cowcow | 30 Jan '09, 01:54 | Reply | X Can we not have a seperate thread for spoilers please?
I know you said quite clearly, but at the same time there is a chance someone could accidentally see something they don't want to.
goldenstreams | 29 Jan '09, 16:55 | Reply | X its good!
it may be on justin.tv if anyone's vaguely interested.
MarkP | 29 Jan '09, 22:26 | Reply | X It's REALLY GOOD SO FAR.
Not enough of Kate's bottom however. More of that sort of thing please!
jonny_rat | 29 Jan '09, 22:58 | Reply | X I love Lost
cowcow | 30 Jan '09, 01:10 | Reply | X HELLO
Sunday - i'm going to watch it again - GREAT episode
MarkP | 1 Feb '09, 16:48 | Reply | X omg
such a good episode. young widmore! loads of richard alpert! desmond being great! desmond's kid being called charlie! :D
guntrip | 1 Feb '09, 22:00 | Reply | X richard
'eyeliner' alpert
MarkP | 1 Feb '09, 22:19 | Reply | X richard
'suddenly susan' alpert
guntrip | 1 Feb '09, 22:26 | Reply | X i thought it was weird that he called him charlie
since it's also the name if his evil mean father-in-law
wishpig | 1 Feb '09, 22:24 | Reply | X i like it
named after both the man who kept them apart and the man who helped them get back together :)
guntrip | 1 Feb '09, 22:41 | Reply | X i've been reading some theories
that charlie the baby is actually charles widmore, making juliet her own grandmother.
if this turns out to be true i'll be so annoyed.
wishpig | 1 Feb '09, 23:01 | Reply | X ha i read that
its the most stupid theory ive ever heard i think.
sharp_yet_blunt | 1 Feb '09, 23:18 | Reply | X dont you mean penny
but that theory is rubbish anyway
cowcow | 1 Feb '09, 23:19 | Reply | X yeah i mean penny
i don't think it would happen, it's probably just lost writers fucking with people who like to theorize obsessively.
wishpig | 1 Feb '09, 23:24 | Reply | X I've been reading wikipediathe last coupleof hours
and it says charlie the rockstar could be charlie the baby, and then goes on to spout stuff about the being-able-to-see-dead-charley-visions..
cowcow | 2 Feb '09, 01:15 | Reply | X SO confused
and amazed.
this is incredible. i wouldn't trust any other show in the world to make this work.
actually gave us more answers than new questions. kinda a linking episode - the young widmore bits and locke first meeting richard blew my mind
Nestor | 1 Feb '09, 22:27 | Reply | X i liked juliet in this episode
she's a really underrated character, i reckon. i love her!
wishpig | 1 Feb '09, 22:28 | Reply | X i just spotted this on lostpedia
possibly the best reference lost has EVER MADE to something else:
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Forsythe Pendleton "Jughead" Jones III was a regularly featured character in Archie Comics, notable as the lead character in a 1990 comic book series, Jughead's Time Police. In the series, Jughead, using a special beanie given by an unknown benefactor, travels through time fixing disturbances in the timeline with the help of one of his own descendants from the 29th century. The uniform Widmore wears on the Island (presumably stolen) has the name "Jones" written on it.
guntrip | 1 Feb '09, 22:50 | Reply | X oh my god
cowcow | 1 Feb '09, 23:18 | Reply | X i refuse to believe it's not deliberate
guntrip | 1 Feb '09, 23:19 | Reply | X i probably is
lost writers r class
cowcow | 1 Feb '09, 23:20 | Reply | X also one thing which passed me by
that i read today is the reason that they had polar bears was to move the island without anyone getting thrown off. makes sense seen as that room with the wheel is pretty cold and they were training the polar bears to do something. Dont know how i missed that.
sharp_yet_blunt | 1 Feb '09, 23:29 | Reply | X i think that's still only speculation...
guntrip | 1 Feb '09, 23:33 | Reply | X yes
makes sense though. If the island throws you to the same place in the desert each time then that must be how the polar bear got there.
sharp_yet_blunt | 1 Feb '09, 23:39 | Reply | X but
how would the polar bears fit down that tiny ladder + lift thing? unless there's another way in, but that hasn't been revealed (yet).
wishpig | 1 Feb '09, 23:58 | Reply | X also
weren't the polar bears kept on the other island in those cages - how did they get to the main island?
wishpig | 2 Feb '09, 00:01 | Reply | X minor details.
i like this theory, dont ruin it.
sharp_yet_blunt | 2 Feb '09, 00:07 | Reply | X it does conveniently explain the polar bear in tunisia
i think it's probably true, i don't know, i just find it funny to imagine a polar bear squeezing down that rickety ladder.
wishpig | 2 Feb '09, 00:12 | Reply | X Charlotte!
She better not be dead, i dig her. Definitely my favourite tv show ever, well apart from The Sopranos.
YouRecluse | 2 Feb '09, 00:41 | Reply | X You reckon Charlotte dying is why Faraday was down that hatch in the first episode?
Maybe he's trying to fiddle with time so that she doesn't die. Or something
dove_from_above | 2 Feb '09, 11:00 | Reply | X Something I read in one of the recaps
When they were escaping the flaming bow and arror wielding Others in the second half of the first episode, did Sawyer stop to pull a piece of bamboo out of his toe? For some reason, I can't remember seeing that bit
Anyway. If he did injure his toe, maybe it gets real infected. And if it does get REAL infected, maybe he has to have it amputated later down the line. And going from my own knowledge, I read an interview a while back where it was said that we can expect Sawyer to become 'much more of a leader' in the last two seasons. If that's true (and we're back to what the recap thing said), perhaps he goes way back in time and does something really noble and amazing, so much so that some previous inhabitants are moved to honour him with a big freaky foot statue
I LIKE THIS THEORY
dove_from_above | 2 Feb '09, 11:05 | Reply | X amazing!
that would be super-badass, them going back in time and seeing the big statue, and IT HAVING SAWYER'S FACE! I don't remember him hurting his toe either, but I'll believe it if it means I get to keep on believing in this theory.
I approve of this theory strongly. I doubt it will occur, but I really think it should.
trans-siberian | 2 Feb '09, 11:57 | Reply | X hmmm, i'm not so sure.
whilst pretty much everything happens for some kind of reason, it does seem a bit odd that it would have him hurting his foot for no reason (although it wasn't mentioned at all during the last episode)... ALSO, i could maybe see it happening, because he's one of those effected by the flashbacks - they could be transported back REALLY far, and have him worshipped by proper "natives"
i think it might be richard. he seems to be of massive importance this series, totally eclipsing ben.
or it could just be jacob? most likely, i guess.
Nestor | 2 Feb '09, 12:13 | Reply | X hmmm, i'm not so sure.
whilst pretty much everything happens for some kind of reason, it does seem a bit odd that it would have him hurting his foot for no reason (although it wasn't mentioned at all during the last episode)... ALSO, i could maybe see it happening, because he's one of those effected by the flashbacks - they could be transported back REALLY far, and have him worshipped by proper "natives"
i think it might be richard. he seems to be of massive importance this series, totally eclipsing ben.
or it could just be jacob? most likely, i guess.
Nestor | 2 Feb '09, 12:13 | Reply | X jughead.
9/10
Quite possibly the most unconventional LOST episode ever? centred almost entirely around "2nd generation" characters of LOST, with no Sayid, Kate, Jack, or Hurley. I don't think anyone would've seen the show evolving into what it has become, but I think it's better than it's ever been - and if the writers handle time travel quite as well as they can, I reckon Series 5 will be my favourite series.
not quite as much theorising to do this week, definitely an answers sorta episode, as confusing as a lot of it was.
so we've pretty much worked out why richard was there at Locke's birth, and that Widmore is "Jones", who i think is an excellent young version of the character
Has anyone read The