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Scolari Sacked!!!

belsizeparka [Edit] [Delete] 270 replies 16:17, 9 February '09

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  • Fairly hilarious

    if true.

    moribund | 9 Feb '09, 16:19 | X
  • haha

    poor quaresma

    ideserve2 | 9 Feb '09, 16:19 | X
  • dicks

    cyberdemon | 9 Feb '09, 16:19 | X
    • nah

      happy at wivenhoe

      joe_totale @cyberdemon | 9 Feb '09, 16:27 | X
      • i don't actually have an opinion on the matter

        championship football is where it's at!

        cyberdemon @joe_totale | 9 Feb '09, 16:28 | X
        • oh yeah

          Chunky_Lover @cyberdemon | 9 Feb '09, 16:41 | X
        • to be fair

          league 1 is better

          sxl464 @cyberdemon | 9 Feb '09, 17:39 | X
  • On the BBC ticker as well.

    Interesting. Ray Wilkins to get them relegated within a year?

    bamos | 9 Feb '09, 16:20 | X
    • What did we do before tickers?

      And this was inevitable from the moment Ray Wilkins was appointed.

      moribund @bamos | 9 Feb '09, 16:21 | X
  • Uh oh!

    Balonz | 9 Feb '09, 16:21 | X
  • Mark Hughes has been made 5/2 on favourite for the job.

    bamos @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 16:22 | X
    • why?

      hes not exactly working wonders with man city... suppose he did use to play for em though

      sxl464 @bamos | 9 Feb '09, 17:41 | X
  • a million replies

    David_R | 9 Feb '09, 16:23 | X
  • well that's just silly

    IndieAndy_Jones | 9 Feb '09, 16:21 | X
  • I can see them trying to snaffle the Zola/Clarke dream team.

    bamos @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 16:26 | X
  • Ray WIlkins in charge....

    Reckon it does our chances of Top4 have just slightly increased.

    belsizeparka | 9 Feb '09, 16:22 | X
  • holy moly

    brusma | 9 Feb '09, 16:22 | X
  • Stupid too....

    I mean just after the window, whos gonna want it, knowing that Grant got sacked for not winning the European Cup, so the expectations are ridiculous.

    With regards Scolari, it sorta shows that great international managers don't always make great club managers.

    belsizeparka | 9 Feb '09, 16:24 | X
  • No

    That's completely made up. Absolutely no media outlet reported it as being 4 years. Everyone has always maintained it was a 2 year contract, with plenty of clauses.

    DanielKelly @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 19:51 | X
  • Good.

    They should never have sacked Avram, the complete twonks.

    Professor_Dog | 9 Feb '09, 16:26 | X
  • Gutted

    I for one will miss Big Phil, tight arse motherfuckers!

    Yoblonski | 9 Feb '09, 16:26 | X
  • It has already been offered to Adams

    retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 16:26 | X
    • I would kill myself

      Balonz @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 16:30 | X
  • they'd better keep their hands off Brian Laws.

    bobbygeorge | 9 Feb '09, 16:26 | X
    • Mrs Laws will play havoc otherwise. She gets very jealous.

      bamos @bobbygeorge | 9 Feb '09, 16:27 | X
    • SO

      brusma @bobbygeorge | 9 Feb '09, 16:31 | X
      • MUCH

        brusma @brusma | 9 Feb '09, 16:32 | X
        • THIS

          brusma @brusma | 9 Feb '09, 16:32 | X
    • He's worked wonders

      with £1.32 & a sainsbury's "Back to School" voucher. Imagine what he could do with a few quid.

      oblitafried @bobbygeorge | 9 Feb '09, 18:53 | X
  • Dear God

    I was right when I said they would finish 9th

    olegrich | 9 Feb '09, 16:27 | X
    • What's King Kev up to these days?

      silverfoxqpr @olegrich | 9 Feb '09, 16:29 | X
      • Tony Adams to be announced as new Chelsea manager by the weekend.

        Reckoning | 9 Feb '09, 16:29 | X
      • Big Ron and Marcel Desailly managerial dream team.

        STONE COLD FACT!

        gowman | 9 Feb '09, 16:29 | X
        • That fact is as nailed on as a KiK cert.

          gowman @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 16:32 | X
        • AVRAM!!!!!

          my favourite manager of all time. please. please.

          Nestor | 9 Feb '09, 16:29 | X
        • Grant and Hiddink dream team apparently

          Coach and director of football

          David_R | 9 Feb '09, 16:30 | X
        • brilliant

          justanothersheeldz | 9 Feb '09, 16:31 | X
        • Roman wants the club to be loved

          so he's bringing in Martin Jol. Good move.

          splitterwill | 9 Feb '09, 16:34 | X
        • Fantastic stuff...

          Move for Di Matteo perhaps? I trust Zola when he says he wants to stay at West Ham because I love the little guy.

          tom_from_sparks | 9 Feb '09, 16:34 | X
        • this is just very, very funny.

          everyone lays into grant for being an abject failure, but he got them to the champion's league final, and in the title race to the end of the season, whereas scolari was doing neither.

          plus he needs to return to seize back the best droopy faced manager mantle.

          _cuckoo | 9 Feb '09, 16:34 | X
        • While I agree to a point

          Scholari's yet again proved that he's got few tactical ideas and isn't really capable of changing his systems to suit the players/situation, and that's without talking about all this zonal marking at corners nonsense.

          For a manager in one of the top jobs I'm not sure that's really acceptable - it was fine while he was getting results, but they were really just papering over the cracks.

          colinzealuk @ht27 | 9 Feb '09, 16:40 | X
        • Mark Hughes? A lifelong Chelsea fan?

          Mark Hughes?

          The guy at Man City, right? A lifelong Chelsea fan?

          Mark Hughes? The Welsh guy that spent 90% of his career at ManYoo?

          We are talking about Mark Hughes the current Man City manager, just so that I can get that clear in my mind?

          Bastard_cat @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 16:40 | X
          • I'd say in football terms that it can have a great deal to do with it.

            I've just learned not to take a single thing you say as remotely truthful or accurate, is all.

            End
            of
            story

            Bastard_cat @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 16:47 | X
            • No, everyone knows that I am Judge_B.

              As fake accounts go, this one is massively transparent. I logged in earlier and haven't been arsed to log out since.

              Talking of massively transparent, how are you? You seem down. Still, I don't care. Fuck off. Cheers

              Bastard_cat @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:03 | X
              • Actually

                i think you said huge cockmonster. It's petty to say, but i feel compelled.

                splitterwill @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:35 | X
              • That was the claim when he played at Chelsea

                Balonz @Bastard_cat | 9 Feb '09, 16:42 | X
                • The same way that

                  Upton Park/Nottarf Krap/SMS/Nottarf Krap/White Hart Lane is Harry Redknapp's spiritual home, right?

                  Bastard_cat @Balonz | 9 Feb '09, 16:43 | X
                  • I think Sparky may well have been a Chelsea fan as a child

                    same as Merson and you wouldn't think of him as such. Although Hughes is from Wales I suppose... maybe he supports Mold and Chelsea.

                    Balonz @Bastard_cat | 9 Feb '09, 16:45 | X
                • Hughes has said this in the past, yeah.

                  it seems a bit strange though, him being from Wrexham and all. By all accounts he's never got on with Ferguson, so I wonder how much that had to do with those comments.

                  noise_annoys @Balonz | 9 Feb '09, 16:44 | X
              • looking forward to seeing how Avram Grant gets on

                without Steve Clarke

                noise_annoys | 9 Feb '09, 16:36 | X
              • WHERE IS DANIEL KELLY?

                olegrich | 9 Feb '09, 16:37 | X
                • Yes I was about to

                  ask the same question.

                  silverfoxqpr @olegrich | 9 Feb '09, 16:42 | X
                • TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET!

                  cyberdemon @olegrich | 9 Feb '09, 16:43 | X
                  • MIDGET

                    midget

                    (midget)

                    brusma @cyberdemon | 9 Feb '09, 17:03 | X
                • Here I am!

                  DanielKelly @olegrich | 9 Feb '09, 20:03 | X
              • Fuck, i thought this was a fucking joke!

                Well their football of late was a fucking joke.

                Lo-Pan | 9 Feb '09, 16:40 | X
              • actually amazing

                good for villa too.

                _thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 16:41 | X
                • Not nececcecilcelery.

                  New manager comes in, inspires troops to opening win over Villa in a fortnight, then they get more morale and go on a run till the season end, second place is in the bag.

                  bamos @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 16:43 | X
                  • depends who they bring in

                    i wouldn't have thought ray wilkins would have any effect on player morale. nor avram grant to be honest. we'll see.

                    _thegirlwith_ @bamos | 9 Feb '09, 17:02 | X
                • Not if they offer O'Neill the job

                  retro_soldier @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 16:46 | X
                  • Would he want it though?

                    It's a poisoned chalice... on the face of it a top club with loads of potential, but at the same time as a few've said up above, the expectations are huge. Anything less than winning titles is considered to be failure.

                    colinzealuk @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 16:52 | X
                  • Hahaha

                    As if O'Neill would go anywhere near that car crash!

                    I am worried about the honeymoon period effect, the players will want to stake their claim for a starting spot, so we're likely have a real game on our hands.

                    jedeteste @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 16:52 | X
                    • but he was brought in to build the club up

                      and shape it in his own way, he's been given time as well, we finished 11th in his first season, 6th in his 2nd. completely different to the chelsea situation.

                      _thegirlwith_ @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:00 | X
                      • yeah, there he would get to work

                        with a squad of world class payers instead of Nicky Shorey

                        retro_soldier @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 17:03 | X
                        • nicky shorey is a great player!

                          cyberdemon @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 17:03 | X
                        • but they're hardly

                          players in the MON mould. i don't think he'd sign many of them for villa given the opportunity.

                          _thegirlwith_ @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 17:06 | X
                      • ^this precisely

                        New ownership came in, and offered MON the time and funding to achieve success, Scolari was given neither of these things.

                        jedeteste @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 17:05 | X
                        • who knows how successful

                          scolari, grant or even the tinkler could have been if they had been given the same amount of time and patience as MON. Martin would be a fool to leave.

                          _thegirlwith_ @jedeteste | 9 Feb '09, 17:08 | X
                    • If they offered him enough money then I think he would go

                      retro_soldier @jedeteste | 9 Feb '09, 16:59 | X
                      • nah

                        _thegirlwith_ @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 17:00 | X
                      • Yeah this will almost certainly happen

                        retro_soldier @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:04 | X
                      • this is a lot more likely

                        although i'd probably give it 2 seasons. MON talked about a 5 year plan when he first started and i think he'll see it out at least. old trafford is definitely the only place he'd leave villa park for though.

                        _thegirlwith_ @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:05 | X
                        • If Ferguson retires next season after beating Liverpool's record

                          then I'm fairly confident O'Neill would be offered it if he has another good season next year. There is no way he would turn down the United job. But, yes, I would struggle to see him at Stamford Bridge

                          retro_soldier @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 17:10 | X
                          • true

                            if MON was offered the utd job, i think he'd take it. but who knows when fergie will retire.

                            _thegirlwith_ @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 17:13 | X
                            • He's said he'll retire before he is 70

                              and he'll be coming up to 69 then.

                              retro_soldier @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 17:15 | X
                              • he said he'd retire years ago

                                but he didn't

                                _thegirlwith_ @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 17:25 | X
                                • This time he means it

                                  he told me

                                  retro_soldier @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 17:26 | X
                            • I don't think Ferguson will retire

                              he'll probably die in the job, he's that driven.

                              charliepanayi @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 17:19 | X
                      • no chance

                        _thegirlwith_ @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 16:55 | X
                      • Not if they offer O'Neill the job

                        retro_soldier @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 16:49 | X
                      • And Chelsea's next league game is...

                        against Villa I believe.

                        charliepanayi @_thegirlwith_ | 9 Feb '09, 16:53 | X
                      • did not see that one coming

                        Chunky_Lover | 9 Feb '09, 16:40 | X
                      • fuck this shit

                        fucking chelsea. stupid fucking club.

                        Ibzo | 9 Feb '09, 16:41 | X
                      • how long until Peter Kenyon gets binned?

                        not only is he a complete fucking cretin, but he's completely incompetent.

                        noise_annoys | 9 Feb '09, 16:46 | X
                      • they can keep their preying eyes off alan irvine

                        Chunky_Lover | 9 Feb '09, 16:47 | X
                      • .

                        A banner unfurled during Chelsea's 0-0 draw with Hull at Stamford Bridge on Saturday called for

                        What BBC? What?

                        Balonz | 9 Feb '09, 16:53 | X
                        • The return of 'legends' Di Matteo or Zola.

                          bamos @Balonz | 9 Feb '09, 16:54 | X
                          • So close - I'll let you have the mark. Bit too wordy for a banner maybe?

                            "the installation of West Ham boss and former Blues favourite Gianfranco Zola as manager."

                            Balonz @bamos | 9 Feb '09, 16:58 | X
                      • odds slashed on Alan Curbishley!!

                        douchebag | 9 Feb '09, 16:57 | X
                      • odds slashed on Alan Curbishley!!

                        douchebag | 9 Feb '09, 16:57 | X
                      • bbc/sport wont even load.

                        meths | 9 Feb '09, 16:57 | X
                      • bbc/sport wont even load.

                        meths | 9 Feb '09, 16:58 | X
                        • yes it will

                          meths @meths | 9 Feb '09, 17:05 | X
                      • Be interesting to see who the new guy is and what Abramovich's commitement to the club is,

                        given that he's now into Putin for mucho dinero.

                        If it's a big name with a big wage as everyone will expect it to be, then I guess everything is as was.

                        If it's a bit of a lesser light on less money, then maybe his interest in football is waning.

                        Just a thought

                        Bastard_cat | 9 Feb '09, 16:58 | X
                        • hmm

                          wouldnt he have kept scolari if he wasnt that bothered though?

                          sxl464 @Bastard_cat | 9 Feb '09, 17:57 | X
                      • bbc/sport wont even load.

                        meths | 9 Feb '09, 16:58 | X
                        • How's the BBC sports website holding up?

                          Bastard_cat @meths | 9 Feb '09, 16:59 | X
                          • haha

                            joeymahone @Bastard_cat | 9 Feb '09, 17:09 | X
                      • Fucking jokers

                        dove_from_above | 9 Feb '09, 16:58 | X
                        • Fingers crossed this improves our increasingly low chance of getting 4th eh

                          charliepanayi @dove_from_above | 9 Feb '09, 17:02 | X
                      • they should give the job to Sammy Lee imo.

                        noise_annoys | 9 Feb '09, 17:03 | X
                      • Redknapp now on SSN:

                        "Chelsea is the job i've always wanted"

                        douchebag | 9 Feb '09, 17:05 | X
                        • i would love that so much

                          meths @douchebag | 9 Feb '09, 17:06 | X
                        • haha!

                          goldenstreams @douchebag | 9 Feb '09, 17:06 | X
                        • whaaaat

                          god I hate Harry Redknapp

                          mug_mug_mug @douchebag | 9 Feb '09, 17:10 | X
                          • that would be a triffic appointment

                            Chunky_Lover @mug_mug_mug | 9 Feb '09, 17:23 | X
                      • Where are all the Chelsea fans?

                        goldenstreams | 9 Feb '09, 17:06 | X
                        • writing their cv's

                          meths @goldenstreams | 9 Feb '09, 17:07 | X
                      • SCOLARI TO PORTSMOUTH

                        ^ made up

                        meths | 9 Feb '09, 17:08 | X
                        • ...

                          http://tinyurl.com/c22tof

                          http://tinyurl.com/bttfr5

                          mug_mug_mug | 9 Feb '09, 17:18 | X
                          • _

                            http://tinyurl.com/bjllft

                            mug_mug_mug @mug_mug_mug | 9 Feb '09, 17:20 | X
                            • ^ keep it up lad. solid.

                              meths @mug_mug_mug | 9 Feb '09, 17:21 | X
                            • :'D

                              douchebag @mug_mug_mug | 9 Feb '09, 17:22 | X
                            • couldn't resist

                              http://tinyurl.com/bbrkxf

                              commandercool @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:25 | X
                            • I had it planned all along

                              http://tinyurl.com/agave3

                              mug_mug_mug @mug_mug_mug | 9 Feb '09, 17:31 | X
                            • As long as they leave Moyes and O'Neill alone they can do what they like

                              bunch of fuckin over-moneyed savages in this town

                              stormcrow | 9 Feb '09, 17:20 | X
                              • MON definitely wouldn't take it

                                and I doubt Moyes would either.

                                jedeteste @stormcrow | 9 Feb '09, 17:24 | X
                                • i'd hope they wouldn't, but their heads could get turned

                                  if chelsea spunk some money on them

                                  Chunky_Lover @jedeteste | 9 Feb '09, 17:25 | X
                                  • Moyes just signed a deal late last year

                                    for a more than ample sum, MON is certainly not on a pittance either. Why leave such secure jobs with clubs in promising positions for Chelsea, where the money has dried up, half the squad is past their best and they're liable to be sacked for anything less than silverware?

                                    jedeteste @Chunky_Lover | 9 Feb '09, 17:30 | X
                                    • why indeed.

                                      but then everyone involved in football is an arsehole

                                      meths @jedeteste | 9 Feb '09, 17:34 | X
                                      • ^

                                        Parsefone @meths | 9 Feb '09, 22:04 | X
                              • .

                                http://tinyurl.com/bk77zl

                                mug_mug_mug @stormcrow | 9 Feb '09, 17:33 | X
                            • 5 years time:

                              wilkins apppointed england coach

                              meths | 9 Feb '09, 17:23 | X
                              • :D

                                Verbal @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 17:34 | X
                              • :D

                                I fucking hate Ray Wilkins

                                LordLuciusBanter @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 18:00 | X
                              • Sclolari

                                Sibley | 9 Feb '09, 17:37 | X
                              • better keep their mitts off The little man

                                Hammers are showing heart of late.

                                ehwhat | 9 Feb '09, 17:37 | X
                              • dear roman...

                                reunite the leeds/chelsea partnership of wise/poyet, and bring chelsea back down to league 1 so we can play them again. please

                                sxl464 | 9 Feb '09, 17:47 | X
                              • hahaha what fools

                                Never should've given him the job in the first place

                                HANDS OFF SOUSA!

                                LordLuciusBanter | 9 Feb '09, 18:02 | X
                              • and Deschamps is still searching for a job...

                                lyle | 9 Feb '09, 18:08 | X
                                • HANDS OFF THE KING OF SHEFFIELD

                                  Brian Laws

                                  stabby3 @lyle | 9 Feb '09, 18:14 | X
                              • Perfectly reasonable decision IMO

                                not good enough tactically, 4th in the League, don't look like winning a thing. Now Grant's sacking, that was ridiculous. The players looked like they didn't care, now I know this isn't necessarily Scolari's fault but apparently he's this great motivator, it's supposed to be his strength. I never wanted him in the first place.

                                O'Neill or Hiddink please, although I doubt the former would come at a time like this.

                                GalacticStar3ruption | 9 Feb '09, 18:36 | X
                                • We reached the CL final under Avram Grant last year

                                  AVRAM GRANT! This squad should be better than what they're showing at the moment, that's a fact.

                                  Er... don't know to be honest, I'm definitely very tempted.

                                  GalacticStar3ruption @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 18:42 | X
                                  • Is that last line about DanielKelly?

                                    retro_soldier @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 18:48 | X
                                    • Oi, bastard chops!

                                      DanielKelly @retro_soldier | 9 Feb '09, 20:12 | X
                                  • I don't disagree there

                                    but the squad should be doing better, some of the performances in the last 2 months have been terrible for a team with title aspirations.

                                    GalacticStar3ruption @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 18:49 | X
                                    • exactly

                                      if we were 2nd behind an admittedly brilliant (at getting results, which is what football is about so brilliant is accurate) Man Utd side then do you think I'd be complaining? No, definitely not. Even if we just looked like we were actually up for the fight I wouldn't be too unhappy. The team spirit/fight under Mourinho was top class, without it we look so average.

                                      GalacticStar3ruption @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 18:57 | X
                                    • cuddle Avram Grant?

                                      *shudder*

                                      douchebag @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 19:00 | X
                                    • cuddle Avram Grant?

                                      *shudder*

                                      douchebag @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 19:00 | X
                                    • Don't want him back now

                                      we needed to take forward steps, not backward ones. Having said that, Mourinho can come back whenever he wants to.

                                      GalacticStar3ruption @codswallop | 9 Feb '09, 18:51 | X
                                      • we never should have sacked him in the first place

                                        but that doesn't mean we should take him back now.

                                        GalacticStar3ruption @codswallop | 9 Feb '09, 19:36 | X
                                      • and it wasn't necessarily the results but more the performances

                                        that were so concerning.

                                        GalacticStar3ruption @GalacticStar3ruption | 9 Feb '09, 18:40 | X
                                      • Glad to see the back of the useless chancer.

                                        How that cunt won the World Cup is any guess. Presumably he just got Brazil to stop fighting amongst themselves for three weeks and their natural ability just about got them through it.

                                        He seemed completely clueless about League football and running a team on a daily basis. He couldn't improve the underperforming players and was only able to fuck up previously good ones.

                                        The problem is 'who next?' I've a horrible feeling that bloody Sven will be back again.

                                        Silentcommand | 9 Feb '09, 18:51 | X
                                        • At least Hiddink has European experience

                                          Scolari didn't even have that, which is why it was such a stupid decision in the first place. Of course all the pundits started wanking over him anyway, because lets face it, most of them know bugger all.

                                          GalacticStar3ruption @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 19:01 | X
                                        • Never should have got the job in the first place

                                          Zapsta | 9 Feb '09, 18:51 | X
                                        • christ

                                          people like that make me feel ancient and yet they're probably older than me

                                          although thinking about it this is actually the longest arsenal have gone without a trophy in my lifetime

                                          fucking hell

                                          ideserve2 @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 19:19 | X
                                          • possibly

                                            but that's something completely up in the air

                                            i wouldn't want anyone but wenger in charge of the club for a long while yet

                                            the realisation that this is the longest trophy drought since terry neill shows how incredibly fortunate arsenal fans have been over the last two decades and i really hope the spoilt knobbers that complain so much over possibly finishing 5th don't win

                                            i've not really felt very close to the club since the move from highbury, mind

                                            and the new badge and current home shirt make me feel ill

                                            ideserve2 @Pigfoot | 9 Feb '09, 19:25 | X
                                          • Not a bad lot to choose from

                                            And that's probably the order I'd take them in actually. Zola would be a risk, but I love him and I don't really fancy Mancini.

                                            GalacticStar3ruption @CaviarAndCigarets | 9 Feb '09, 19:35 | X
                                            • Rijkaard's another Scolari

                                              Zapsta @GalacticStar3ruption | 9 Feb '09, 19:36 | X
                                              • His only success has been with a great team

                                                His only *job* has been with a great team. He's done nothing to prove himself.

                                                Zapsta @Pigfoot | 9 Feb '09, 19:39 | X
                                                • I probably should have checked to see it was his first job before saying it

                                                  Either way, the point still stands.

                                                  Zapsta @Zapsta | 9 Feb '09, 19:41 | X
                                              • I don't believe that post

                                                it was completely by accident. "I'd take them" "I love him" and "I don't really fancy Mancini" hahahaha :D

                                                GalacticStar3ruption @Pigfoot | 9 Feb '09, 20:10 | X
                                              • oh please do

                                                then we can get martin jol back and complete our transformation back to 2005

                                                harru @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 20:14 | X
                                                • Harry Redknapp is a much better manager than Martin Jol

                                                  Zapsta @harru | 9 Feb '09, 20:17 | X
                                                  • not until he gets us two 5th place finishes he isn't

                                                    harru @Zapsta | 9 Feb '09, 20:25 | X
                                              • Some points

                                                1) kissinginkansas my dear lad, I adore you. Some of the stuff you come out with is fantastic. Ridiculous beyond belief, but amusing reading. It's sometimes clear you're just making stuff up.

                                                2) I'm a tad sad about this. I liked Scolari as a man and think that he wasn't given the resources reports last summer claimed he had been promised. There is a clear lack of integrity among Chelsea's hierarchy and I think that has shined through ever since Ken Bates' last few years at the club. The timing is also ridiculous; I said to the guy I was sat next to in the stands at the weekend that I thought the Hull result had sealed his fate but I expected him to hang on until May.

                                                3) Lack of integrity aside, Scolari was doing a truly awful job. He made no attempt to shake up tactics, would often refuse to make any subsititions in games when things weren't going well and when he did they were often bizarre or merely like-for-like. It seems to me he should have shown some willingness to experiment or really asked the players how they wanted to play. It's 90% the same side as the last few years afterall, which leads me to believe the problem ultimately lay with Scolari's tactics.

                                                4) I don't want a big name, I want someone who loves Chelsea (and is competent obvs). I'd love Zola/Clarke, but they are too gentlemanly to leave West Ham (part of the reason I love them).

                                                DanielKelly | 9 Feb '09, 20:00 | X
                                              • Mostly the comment about how long his contract was

                                                A quick search of news stories from the time he was appointed shows pretty much everywhere reporting it as being a two year contract. There won't be a massive compensation pay-out.

                                                I'd actually quite like Hughes for the reason you've said. Infact, I wanted him in the summer. I think Bilic would have the exact same problems Scolari did.

                                                DanielKelly @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 20:07 | X
                                                • I agreed with pretty much all of your long post

                                                  but I really don't want Hughes as manager.

                                                  GalacticStar3ruption @DanielKelly | 9 Feb '09, 20:14 | X
                                                • I guess specifics will always evade the likes of us

                                                  I think the problem with the perception of Chelsea is that we've needlessly sacked managers before (Gullit, Vialli, Mourinho and arguably Grant) so it looks bad when someone who really needed to get the boot does so.

                                                  DanielKelly @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 20:17 | X
                                                • FFS

                                                  Looks like we've sacked our web monkey too. I just want to buy a Juventus ticket. Bet the fuckers have sold out by the time I can get the site to work.

                                                  DanielKelly | 9 Feb '09, 20:10 | X
                                                  • Bastard things did sell out too.

                                                    Shit.

                                                    DanielKelly @DanielKelly | 10 Feb '09, 08:12 | X
                                                • LOL at Chelsea fans saying

                                                  he was out of his depth and not up to the standard for a club their size

                                                  soapy | 9 Feb '09, 20:20 | X
                                                  • the man they need is quite clearly Glenn Roeder

                                                    if he takes over a club at this point in a season then he always has a magical honeymoon period that guarantees a great upturn in the clubs fortunes.
                                                    at least until midway through his first full season as boss.

                                                    soapy @soapy | 9 Feb '09, 20:24 | X
                                                  • He was tactically out of his depth for the Premiership

                                                    yes

                                                    GalacticStar3ruption @soapy | 9 Feb '09, 21:05 | X
                                                    • yeah but that's not what 'the fans' are saying

                                                      they're all about how he wasn't a manager of suitable stature for the club

                                                      soapy @GalacticStar3ruption | 9 Feb '09, 21:08 | X
                                                      • oh

                                                        well that is stupid

                                                        GalacticStar3ruption @soapy | 9 Feb '09, 21:34 | X
                                                • ctrl+f 'roy hodgson'

                                                  surprising...

                                                  Sven is the rumour over here in the Nordic region... but he's the perennial rumour in times of managerlessness for any european club more-or-less

                                                  Anschul | 9 Feb '09, 20:40 | X
                                                • Anyone got a link to the videos of

                                                  Ferguson, Benitez, O'Neill and Wenger pissing themselves laughing?

                                                  Mr_JDTraynor | 9 Feb '09, 20:44 | X
                                                • This is all pretty amusing.

                                                  As long as Chelsea don't try to unsettle Capello.

                                                  marckee | 9 Feb '09, 20:53 | X
                                                  • maybe they could hire 'arry to

                                                    talk about what a quality manager he is

                                                    soapy @marckee | 9 Feb '09, 20:55 | X
                                                • I leave for 5 hours....

                                                  and look the longest thread I've ever started.

                                                  What are the chances of Bilic getting the nod? I hope not, I've got my eye on him for the Arsenal job.

                                                  belsizeparka | 9 Feb '09, 21:02 | X
                                                  • I don't understand why people think this is necessarily a bad thing for Chelsea

                                                    if we appoint the right bloke, we could have a honeymoon period until the end of the season, resulting in possible silverware.

                                                    GalacticStar3ruption @belsizeparka | 9 Feb '09, 21:07 | X
                                                    • But changing managers mid-season usually

                                                      does little good is the problem

                                                      charliepanayi @GalacticStar3ruption | 9 Feb '09, 21:23 | X
                                                      • We're in February, right?

                                                        even a quick honeymoon period will do at the moment. If it doesn't last until May, we'll still be better off than if we'd have kept big Phil. I'm not saying there will definitely be a honeymoon period, but it's worth a try.

                                                        GalacticStar3ruption @charliepanayi | 9 Feb '09, 21:36 | X
                                                  • Didn't he say he's going to stop managing Croatia after the euro's?

                                                    That must surely improve his odds.

                                                    lurchy2 @belsizeparka | 9 Feb '09, 23:58 | X
                                                • they need zola

                                                  but oh looks like we have him (we as in west ham) and he's here to stay

                                                  IcebergSlim69 | 9 Feb '09, 21:28 | X
                                                  • Yay!

                                                    drakepress @IcebergSlim69 | 9 Feb '09, 21:29 | X
                                                • He should be blaming Real not City

                                                  Robinho wanted to join Chelsea.

                                                  GalacticStar3ruption @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 21:37 | X
                                                  • well... he shouldn't be blaming anyone

                                                    but you get my point

                                                    GalacticStar3ruption @GalacticStar3ruption | 9 Feb '09, 21:38 | X
                                                  • don't be stupid

                                                    GalacticStar3ruption @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 21:50 | X
                                                    • ...and we are a club with deep and obvious integrity?

                                                      Parsefone @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 22:12 | X
                                                      • Zola's lawyer

                                                        "It is very difficult to say if anything will happen, but Chelsea is a special place for Gianfranco Zola."

                                                        Hmmm.

                                                        simon_t | 9 Feb '09, 23:17 | X
                                                        • Appointing Zola would be ridiculous on two fronts

                                                          First of all, it would be ridiculous for Chelsea to go for somebody that unproven. He's clearly doing well at the moment, but are we all now saying that a successful run of 10 games makes you fit to manage a club aiming to win the Champions League?

                                                          Secondly, it would be ridiculous for Zola to take the job right now. Stay at a decent sized club, prove yourself and then move on in a few years when you're ready

                                                          I think Rijkaard would be the best/most realistic option for Chelsea right now, but that's just me

                                                          dove_from_above @simon_t | 9 Feb '09, 23:41 | X
                                                          • The way Chelsea is being run is now akin to a Spanish or Italian club

                                                            It's just getting silly. How many times do people need it pointed out that STABILITY is the key to ongoing success. Granted, Arsenal aren't doing too hot right now, but you only need to look at us, Man Utd, Everton and arguably now Villa to realise that it pays to get somebody in and give them time to make the club/team run the way they want it run

                                                            It's amazing that other clubs so spectacularly fail to realise this

                                                            dove_from_above @kissinginkansas | 9 Feb '09, 23:50 | X
                                                            • People were saying arsenal were falling apart....

                                                              halfway through 2005/2006 when we were fifth, and pires, ljungberg, vieira, campbell, reyes, cole seemed past it or disinterested and then a few months later we were in the champions league final.

                                                              I don't think chelsea would have had such a quick turnaround, or even that Scolari was the man for them, but it seems like they don't know what they are looking for in a manager or that they have a competent structure in place for the manager to know his role and work within.

                                                              Arsenal have probably given a bit too much responsibility to Wenger over the years (can't believe Pat Rice has the tactical nouse of a Carlos Queiroz) but they have had a policy and stuck by it and it's paid off

                                                              thetrees @dove_from_above | 10 Feb '09, 11:43 | X
                                                              • oh vieira had gone

                                                                my mistake

                                                                thetrees @thetrees | 10 Feb '09, 11:54 | X
                                                          • "Sounds like"

                                                            What sounds like anything? There has been absolutely no comment made by any authoritative source whatsoever.

                                                            DanielKelly @kissinginkansas | 10 Feb '09, 11:33 | X
                                                            • Oh, it could happen.

                                                              But then anything with the almost infinite realms of possibility could happen.

                                                              DanielKelly @kissinginkansas | 10 Feb '09, 11:43 | X
                                                            • This

                                                              should not have been headline news
                                                              and should not have so many replies

                                                              football is gash. get over yourselves.

                                                              m-dizzle | 10 Feb '09, 12:29 | X
                                                              • Moron

                                                                DanielKelly @m-dizzle | 10 Feb '09, 12:36 | X
                                                                • at least i'm not you

                                                                  m-dizzle @DanielKelly | 10 Feb '09, 13:01 | X
                                                                  • How can you be sure?

                                                                    Perhaps the world is a big computer game blah blah blah. Honestly, it's like traipsing several miles to your nearest farm, kicking in the barn door and loudly exclaiming that you don't like farm animals one bit and they should all vacate the barn on your whim.

                                                                    DanielKelly @m-dizzle | 10 Feb '09, 13:05 | X
                                                                    • He's got a point

                                                                      I'd hate to be you

                                                                      olegrich @DanielKelly | 10 Feb '09, 13:08 | X
                                                                      • I can see why having a good Catholic heritage would pain you

                                                                        DanielKelly @olegrich | 10 Feb '09, 13:13 | X
                                                                    • yeah, that's exactly what it's like.

                                                                      oh wait, no, it's actually very, very different.

                                                                      sure, have your sports section on the news, go and stand in the rain watching leather be kicked around by morons that're apparently worth millions, i'm not telling you how to live, but please don't put the idea of some fat idiot football manager in the same level of importance on the news as hundreds of people being burnt to death in australia.

                                                                      maybe i'm jealous. my good morning thread got no replies yesterday. i was just trying to be nice. where were you then daniel kelly? where were you then?

                                                                      and for the record, i do not like farmyard animals.

                                                                      m-dizzle @DanielKelly | 10 Feb '09, 13:09 | X
                                                                      • It is exactly like that

                                                                        You don't like football and think it's fundamentally stupid, fair enough. Why on Earth you'd feel the compulsion to announce that in an obvious football thread, only you would know.

                                                                        What the media covers isn't governed by importance and it never has been. It's governed by what the largest group of people are interested in.

                                                                        DanielKelly @m-dizzle | 10 Feb '09, 13:12 | X
                                                                      • Why are you interested in a load of people dying in a foreign country?

                                                                        moribund @m-dizzle | 10 Feb '09, 13:25 | X
                                                            • hahahahah

                                                              made my day

                                                              im not really shocked, results game im afraid

                                                              hands off our zola and clarke.

                                                              templar72 | 10 Feb '09, 13:23 | X
                                                            • Un. Befuck. Inglievable.

                                                              John_Brainlove | 10 Feb '09, 13:32 | X
                                                            • Looks likely it will be Hiddink until May

                                                              Which I think could be ideal. I'm not sure he'd be ideal on a permanent basis, but he is a great man manager and has a strong relationship with Abramovich, so I think he could at least identify which individual players had problems and relate that to the owner (I could tell him, as could anyone else, but alas, we don't command the respect of Hiddink) which would be beneficial for seasons to come. I'd trust him to sort the likes of Drogba out one way or another.

                                                              And while I don't think Zola could be tempted away now, I think a summer move could be on. We'd get a better look at him between now and then and whilst I think he is too much of a gentleman to leave the Hammers in the lurch, I think he'd find it hard to say no to his best beloved if they came knocking in the close season.

                                                              DanielKelly @kissinginkansas | 10 Feb '09, 13:45 | X
                                                              • Not sure on Hiddink.

                                                                Strikes me as similar to Scolari, meant to be a great man manager but has done little in club management outside of the Dutch league. Holland should have won that World Cup in 1998 and he has overachieved with limited resources at international level.

                                                                moribund @DanielKelly | 10 Feb '09, 13:52 | X
                                                                • Sure, I think he'd perhaps be a poor permanent appointment

                                                                  but that doesn't seem to be an option anyway. Scolari never struck me as a man manager and the way he had Chelsea playing (even at the start of the season) reflected, to me at least, he more of a team unit mentality which let him down when it came to dropping underachievers or changing tactics mid-game. Hiddink has always come across (again, to me at least) as someone who looks at a team on a micro level, building on individuals which is what we need right now, at a point we can't make changes to the squad.

                                                                  DanielKelly @moribund | 10 Feb '09, 13:58 | X
                                                                  • Yeah, sorry was just commenting on Hiddink in general

                                                                    always struck me as the Sam Allardyce of international football.

                                                                    moribund @DanielKelly | 10 Feb '09, 14:04 | X
                                                                    • Please don't stick Hiddink and Allardyce in the same sentence

                                                                      charliepanayi @moribund | 10 Feb '09, 14:17 | X
                                                                • He won the European Cup with PSV

                                                                  charliepanayi @moribund | 10 Feb '09, 14:18 | X
                                                                  • Yep

                                                                    21 years ago

                                                                    moribund @charliepanayi | 10 Feb '09, 14:24 | X
                                                                    • "has done little in club management outside of the Dutch league"

                                                                      I was simply disputing your statement, you should have said 'in the last 10 years' or something then

                                                                      charliepanayi @moribund | 10 Feb '09, 14:46 | X
                                                                      • One European Cup is 'little' in my eyes

                                                                        and he has only managed in a top league for a couple of years when at Madrid and Betis and both of those stints ended badly.

                                                                        moribund @charliepanayi | 10 Feb '09, 15:04 | X
                                                            • Not sure about this appointment

                                                              they might need a boost in the short term and this might get that, but what about long term stability.
                                                              He's apparently going to stick with Russia through their qualifying campaign so how will that effect any long term plans Chelsea have?

                                                              Hiddink wouldn't quit if Russia qualify, would he?

                                                              Without the stability of a proper permanent appointment will the summer see the likes of Drogba and Lampard jumping ship for Europe?

                                                              soapy @kissinginkansas | 10 Feb '09, 14:17 | X
                                                              • I think at this point in the season, you can only look short-term

                                                                DanielKelly @soapy | 10 Feb '09, 14:18 | X
                                                            • A colleague's just announced to us all that Mancini's going to get the job

                                                              Pulse/finger absence.

                                                              simon_t | 10 Feb '09, 14:25 | X
                                                            • Somehow this is the first I've heard of this...

                                                              Has Spalletti been mentioned yet? He's always linked with big moves.

                                                              Bagelheart | 10 Feb '09, 15:02 | X
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