That's completely made up. Absolutely no media outlet reported it as being 4 years. Everyone has always maintained it was a 2 year contract, with plenty of clauses.
everyone lays into grant for being an abject failure, but he got them to the champion's league final, and in the title race to the end of the season, whereas scolari was doing neither.
plus he needs to return to seize back the best droopy faced manager mantle.
Scholari's yet again proved that he's got few tactical ideas and isn't really capable of changing his systems to suit the players/situation, and that's without talking about all this zonal marking at corners nonsense.
For a manager in one of the top jobs I'm not sure that's really acceptable - it was fine while he was getting results, but they were really just papering over the cracks.
it seems a bit strange though, him being from Wrexham and all. By all accounts he's never got on with Ferguson, so I wonder how much that had to do with those comments.
New manager comes in, inspires troops to opening win over Villa in a fortnight, then they get more morale and go on a run till the season end, second place is in the bag.
It's a poisoned chalice... on the face of it a top club with loads of potential, but at the same time as a few've said up above, the expectations are huge. Anything less than winning titles is considered to be failure.
As if O'Neill would go anywhere near that car crash!
I am worried about the honeymoon period effect, the players will want to stake their claim for a starting spot, so we're likely have a real game on our hands.
and shape it in his own way, he's been given time as well, we finished 11th in his first season, 6th in his 2nd. completely different to the chelsea situation.
scolari, grant or even the tinkler could have been if they had been given the same amount of time and patience as MON. Martin would be a fool to leave.
although i'd probably give it 2 seasons. MON talked about a 5 year plan when he first started and i think he'll see it out at least. old trafford is definitely the only place he'd leave villa park for though.
then I'm fairly confident O'Neill would be offered it if he has another good season next year. There is no way he would turn down the United job. But, yes, I would struggle to see him at Stamford Bridge
for a more than ample sum, MON is certainly not on a pittance either. Why leave such secure jobs with clubs in promising positions for Chelsea, where the money has dried up, half the squad is past their best and they're liable to be sacked for anything less than silverware?
not good enough tactically, 4th in the League, don't look like winning a thing. Now Grant's sacking, that was ridiculous. The players looked like they didn't care, now I know this isn't necessarily Scolari's fault but apparently he's this great motivator, it's supposed to be his strength. I never wanted him in the first place.
O'Neill or Hiddink please, although I doubt the former would come at a time like this.
if we were 2nd behind an admittedly brilliant (at getting results, which is what football is about so brilliant is accurate) Man Utd side then do you think I'd be complaining? No, definitely not. Even if we just looked like we were actually up for the fight I wouldn't be too unhappy. The team spirit/fight under Mourinho was top class, without it we look so average.
How that cunt won the World Cup is any guess. Presumably he just got Brazil to stop fighting amongst themselves for three weeks and their natural ability just about got them through it.
He seemed completely clueless about League football and running a team on a daily basis. He couldn't improve the underperforming players and was only able to fuck up previously good ones.
The problem is 'who next?' I've a horrible feeling that bloody Sven will be back again.
Scolari didn't even have that, which is why it was such a stupid decision in the first place. Of course all the pundits started wanking over him anyway, because lets face it, most of them know bugger all.
i wouldn't want anyone but wenger in charge of the club for a long while yet
the realisation that this is the longest trophy drought since terry neill shows how incredibly fortunate arsenal fans have been over the last two decades and i really hope the spoilt knobbers that complain so much over possibly finishing 5th don't win
i've not really felt very close to the club since the move from highbury, mind
and the new badge and current home shirt make me feel ill
1) kissinginkansas my dear lad, I adore you. Some of the stuff you come out with is fantastic. Ridiculous beyond belief, but amusing reading. It's sometimes clear you're just making stuff up.
2) I'm a tad sad about this. I liked Scolari as a man and think that he wasn't given the resources reports last summer claimed he had been promised. There is a clear lack of integrity among Chelsea's hierarchy and I think that has shined through ever since Ken Bates' last few years at the club. The timing is also ridiculous; I said to the guy I was sat next to in the stands at the weekend that I thought the Hull result had sealed his fate but I expected him to hang on until May.
3) Lack of integrity aside, Scolari was doing a truly awful job. He made no attempt to shake up tactics, would often refuse to make any subsititions in games when things weren't going well and when he did they were often bizarre or merely like-for-like. It seems to me he should have shown some willingness to experiment or really asked the players how they wanted to play. It's 90% the same side as the last few years afterall, which leads me to believe the problem ultimately lay with Scolari's tactics.
4) I don't want a big name, I want someone who loves Chelsea (and is competent obvs). I'd love Zola/Clarke, but they are too gentlemanly to leave West Ham (part of the reason I love them).
A quick search of news stories from the time he was appointed shows pretty much everywhere reporting it as being a two year contract. There won't be a massive compensation pay-out.
I'd actually quite like Hughes for the reason you've said. Infact, I wanted him in the summer. I think Bilic would have the exact same problems Scolari did.
I think the problem with the perception of Chelsea is that we've needlessly sacked managers before (Gullit, Vialli, Mourinho and arguably Grant) so it looks bad when someone who really needed to get the boot does so.
Looks like we've sacked our web monkey too. I just want to buy a Juventus ticket. Bet the fuckers have sold out by the time I can get the site to work.
if he takes over a club at this point in a season then he always has a magical honeymoon period that guarantees a great upturn in the clubs fortunes.
at least until midway through his first full season as boss.
even a quick honeymoon period will do at the moment. If it doesn't last until May, we'll still be better off than if we'd have kept big Phil. I'm not saying there will definitely be a honeymoon period, but it's worth a try.
First of all, it would be ridiculous for Chelsea to go for somebody that unproven. He's clearly doing well at the moment, but are we all now saying that a successful run of 10 games makes you fit to manage a club aiming to win the Champions League?
Secondly, it would be ridiculous for Zola to take the job right now. Stay at a decent sized club, prove yourself and then move on in a few years when you're ready
I think Rijkaard would be the best/most realistic option for Chelsea right now, but that's just me
It's just getting silly. How many times do people need it pointed out that STABILITY is the key to ongoing success. Granted, Arsenal aren't doing too hot right now, but you only need to look at us, Man Utd, Everton and arguably now Villa to realise that it pays to get somebody in and give them time to make the club/team run the way they want it run
It's amazing that other clubs so spectacularly fail to realise this
halfway through 2005/2006 when we were fifth, and pires, ljungberg, vieira, campbell, reyes, cole seemed past it or disinterested and then a few months later we were in the champions league final.
I don't think chelsea would have had such a quick turnaround, or even that Scolari was the man for them, but it seems like they don't know what they are looking for in a manager or that they have a competent structure in place for the manager to know his role and work within.
Arsenal have probably given a bit too much responsibility to Wenger over the years (can't believe Pat Rice has the tactical nouse of a Carlos Queiroz) but they have had a policy and stuck by it and it's paid off
Perhaps the world is a big computer game blah blah blah. Honestly, it's like traipsing several miles to your nearest farm, kicking in the barn door and loudly exclaiming that you don't like farm animals one bit and they should all vacate the barn on your whim.
sure, have your sports section on the news, go and stand in the rain watching leather be kicked around by morons that're apparently worth millions, i'm not telling you how to live, but please don't put the idea of some fat idiot football manager in the same level of importance on the news as hundreds of people being burnt to death in australia.
maybe i'm jealous. my good morning thread got no replies yesterday. i was just trying to be nice. where were you then daniel kelly? where were you then?
and for the record, i do not like farmyard animals.
You don't like football and think it's fundamentally stupid, fair enough. Why on Earth you'd feel the compulsion to announce that in an obvious football thread, only you would know.
What the media covers isn't governed by importance and it never has been. It's governed by what the largest group of people are interested in.
Which I think could be ideal. I'm not sure he'd be ideal on a permanent basis, but he is a great man manager and has a strong relationship with Abramovich, so I think he could at least identify which individual players had problems and relate that to the owner (I could tell him, as could anyone else, but alas, we don't command the respect of Hiddink) which would be beneficial for seasons to come. I'd trust him to sort the likes of Drogba out one way or another.
And while I don't think Zola could be tempted away now, I think a summer move could be on. We'd get a better look at him between now and then and whilst I think he is too much of a gentleman to leave the Hammers in the lurch, I think he'd find it hard to say no to his best beloved if they came knocking in the close season.
Strikes me as similar to Scolari, meant to be a great man manager but has done little in club management outside of the Dutch league. Holland should have won that World Cup in 1998 and he has overachieved with limited resources at international level.
but that doesn't seem to be an option anyway. Scolari never struck me as a man manager and the way he had Chelsea playing (even at the start of the season) reflected, to me at least, he more of a team unit mentality which let him down when it came to dropping underachievers or changing tactics mid-game. Hiddink has always come across (again, to me at least) as someone who looks at a team on a micro level, building on individuals which is what we need right now, at a point we can't make changes to the squad.
they might need a boost in the short term and this might get that, but what about long term stability.
He's apparently going to stick with Russia through their qualifying campaign so how will that effect any long term plans Chelsea have?
Hiddink wouldn't quit if Russia qualify, would he?
Without the stability of a proper permanent appointment will the summer see the likes of Drogba and Lampard jumping ship for Europe?
Fairly hilarious
if true.
haha
poor quaresma
dicks
nah
happy at wivenhoe
i don't actually have an opinion on the matter
championship football is where it's at!
oh yeah
to be fair
league 1 is better
On the BBC ticker as well.
Interesting. Ray Wilkins to get them relegated within a year?
What did we do before tickers?
And this was inevitable from the moment Ray Wilkins was appointed.
Uh oh!
Mark Hughes has been made 5/2 on favourite for the job.
why?
hes not exactly working wonders with man city... suppose he did use to play for em though
a million replies
well that's just silly
I can see them trying to snaffle the Zola/Clarke dream team.
Ray WIlkins in charge....
Reckon it does our chances of Top4 have just slightly increased.
holy moly
Stupid too....
I mean just after the window, whos gonna want it, knowing that Grant got sacked for not winning the European Cup, so the expectations are ridiculous.
With regards Scolari, it sorta shows that great international managers don't always make great club managers.
No
That's completely made up. Absolutely no media outlet reported it as being 4 years. Everyone has always maintained it was a 2 year contract, with plenty of clauses.
Good.
They should never have sacked Avram, the complete twonks.
Gutted
I for one will miss Big Phil, tight arse motherfuckers!
It has already been offered to Adams
I would kill myself
they'd better keep their hands off Brian Laws.
Mrs Laws will play havoc otherwise. She gets very jealous.
SO
MUCH
THIS
He's worked wonders
with £1.32 & a sainsbury's "Back to School" voucher. Imagine what he could do with a few quid.
Dear God
I was right when I said they would finish 9th
What's King Kev up to these days?
Tony Adams to be announced as new Chelsea manager by the weekend.
Big Ron and Marcel Desailly managerial dream team.
STONE COLD FACT!
That fact is as nailed on as a KiK cert.
AVRAM!!!!!
my favourite manager of all time. please. please.
Grant and Hiddink dream team apparently
Coach and director of football
brilliant
Roman wants the club to be loved
so he's bringing in Martin Jol. Good move.
Fantastic stuff...
Move for Di Matteo perhaps? I trust Zola when he says he wants to stay at West Ham because I love the little guy.
this is just very, very funny.
everyone lays into grant for being an abject failure, but he got them to the champion's league final, and in the title race to the end of the season, whereas scolari was doing neither.
plus he needs to return to seize back the best droopy faced manager mantle.
While I agree to a point
Scholari's yet again proved that he's got few tactical ideas and isn't really capable of changing his systems to suit the players/situation, and that's without talking about all this zonal marking at corners nonsense.
For a manager in one of the top jobs I'm not sure that's really acceptable - it was fine while he was getting results, but they were really just papering over the cracks.
Mark Hughes? A lifelong Chelsea fan?
Mark Hughes?
The guy at Man City, right? A lifelong Chelsea fan?
Mark Hughes? The Welsh guy that spent 90% of his career at ManYoo?
We are talking about Mark Hughes the current Man City manager, just so that I can get that clear in my mind?
I'd say in football terms that it can have a great deal to do with it.
I've just learned not to take a single thing you say as remotely truthful or accurate, is all.
End
of
story
No, everyone knows that I am Judge_B.
As fake accounts go, this one is massively transparent. I logged in earlier and haven't been arsed to log out since.
Talking of massively transparent, how are you? You seem down. Still, I don't care. Fuck off. Cheers
Actually
i think you said huge cockmonster. It's petty to say, but i feel compelled.
That was the claim when he played at Chelsea
The same way that
Upton Park/Nottarf Krap/SMS/Nottarf Krap/White Hart Lane is Harry Redknapp's spiritual home, right?
I think Sparky may well have been a Chelsea fan as a child
same as Merson and you wouldn't think of him as such. Although Hughes is from Wales I suppose... maybe he supports Mold and Chelsea.
Hughes has said this in the past, yeah.
it seems a bit strange though, him being from Wrexham and all. By all accounts he's never got on with Ferguson, so I wonder how much that had to do with those comments.
looking forward to seeing how Avram Grant gets on
without Steve Clarke
WHERE IS DANIEL KELLY?
Yes I was about to
ask the same question.
TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET!
MIDGET
midget
(midget)
Here I am!
Fuck, i thought this was a fucking joke!
Well their football of late was a fucking joke.
actually amazing
good for villa too.
Not nececcecilcelery.
New manager comes in, inspires troops to opening win over Villa in a fortnight, then they get more morale and go on a run till the season end, second place is in the bag.
depends who they bring in
i wouldn't have thought ray wilkins would have any effect on player morale. nor avram grant to be honest. we'll see.
Not if they offer O'Neill the job
Would he want it though?
It's a poisoned chalice... on the face of it a top club with loads of potential, but at the same time as a few've said up above, the expectations are huge. Anything less than winning titles is considered to be failure.
Hahaha
As if O'Neill would go anywhere near that car crash!
I am worried about the honeymoon period effect, the players will want to stake their claim for a starting spot, so we're likely have a real game on our hands.
but he was brought in to build the club up
and shape it in his own way, he's been given time as well, we finished 11th in his first season, 6th in his 2nd. completely different to the chelsea situation.
yeah, there he would get to work
with a squad of world class payers instead of Nicky Shorey
nicky shorey is a great player!
but they're hardly
players in the MON mould. i don't think he'd sign many of them for villa given the opportunity.
^this precisely
New ownership came in, and offered MON the time and funding to achieve success, Scolari was given neither of these things.
who knows how successful
scolari, grant or even the tinkler could have been if they had been given the same amount of time and patience as MON. Martin would be a fool to leave.
If they offered him enough money then I think he would go
nah
Yeah this will almost certainly happen
this is a lot more likely
although i'd probably give it 2 seasons. MON talked about a 5 year plan when he first started and i think he'll see it out at least. old trafford is definitely the only place he'd leave villa park for though.
If Ferguson retires next season after beating Liverpool's record
then I'm fairly confident O'Neill would be offered it if he has another good season next year. There is no way he would turn down the United job. But, yes, I would struggle to see him at Stamford Bridge
true
if MON was offered the utd job, i think he'd take it. but who knows when fergie will retire.
He's said he'll retire before he is 70
and he'll be coming up to 69 then.
he said he'd retire years ago
but he didn't
This time he means it
he told me
I don't think Ferguson will retire
he'll probably die in the job, he's that driven.
no chance
Not if they offer O'Neill the job
And Chelsea's next league game is...
against Villa I believe.
did not see that one coming
fuck this shit
fucking chelsea. stupid fucking club.
how long until Peter Kenyon gets binned?
not only is he a complete fucking cretin, but he's completely incompetent.
they can keep their preying eyes off alan irvine
.
A banner unfurled during Chelsea's 0-0 draw with Hull at Stamford Bridge on Saturday called for
What BBC? What?
The return of 'legends' Di Matteo or Zola.
So close - I'll let you have the mark. Bit too wordy for a banner maybe?
"the installation of West Ham boss and former Blues favourite Gianfranco Zola as manager."
odds slashed on Alan Curbishley!!
odds slashed on Alan Curbishley!!
bbc/sport wont even load.
bbc/sport wont even load.
yes it will
Be interesting to see who the new guy is and what Abramovich's commitement to the club is,
given that he's now into Putin for mucho dinero.
If it's a big name with a big wage as everyone will expect it to be, then I guess everything is as was.
If it's a bit of a lesser light on less money, then maybe his interest in football is waning.
Just a thought
hmm
wouldnt he have kept scolari if he wasnt that bothered though?
bbc/sport wont even load.
How's the BBC sports website holding up?
haha
Fucking jokers
Fingers crossed this improves our increasingly low chance of getting 4th eh
they should give the job to Sammy Lee imo.
Redknapp now on SSN:
"Chelsea is the job i've always wanted"
i would love that so much
haha!
whaaaat
god I hate Harry Redknapp
that would be a triffic appointment
Where are all the Chelsea fans?
writing their cv's
SCOLARI TO PORTSMOUTH
^ made up
...
http://tinyurl.com/c22tof
http://tinyurl.com/bttfr5
_
http://tinyurl.com/bjllft
^ keep it up lad. solid.
:'D
couldn't resist
http://tinyurl.com/bbrkxf
I had it planned all along
http://tinyurl.com/agave3
As long as they leave Moyes and O'Neill alone they can do what they like
bunch of fuckin over-moneyed savages in this town
MON definitely wouldn't take it
and I doubt Moyes would either.
i'd hope they wouldn't, but their heads could get turned
if chelsea spunk some money on them
Moyes just signed a deal late last year
for a more than ample sum, MON is certainly not on a pittance either. Why leave such secure jobs with clubs in promising positions for Chelsea, where the money has dried up, half the squad is past their best and they're liable to be sacked for anything less than silverware?
why indeed.
but then everyone involved in football is an arsehole
^
.
http://tinyurl.com/bk77zl
5 years time:
wilkins apppointed england coach
:D
:D
I fucking hate Ray Wilkins
Sclolari
better keep their mitts off The little man
Hammers are showing heart of late.
dear roman...
reunite the leeds/chelsea partnership of wise/poyet, and bring chelsea back down to league 1 so we can play them again. please
hahaha what fools
Never should've given him the job in the first place
HANDS OFF SOUSA!
and Deschamps is still searching for a job...
HANDS OFF THE KING OF SHEFFIELD
Brian Laws
Perfectly reasonable decision IMO
not good enough tactically, 4th in the League, don't look like winning a thing. Now Grant's sacking, that was ridiculous. The players looked like they didn't care, now I know this isn't necessarily Scolari's fault but apparently he's this great motivator, it's supposed to be his strength. I never wanted him in the first place.
O'Neill or Hiddink please, although I doubt the former would come at a time like this.
We reached the CL final under Avram Grant last year
AVRAM GRANT! This squad should be better than what they're showing at the moment, that's a fact.
Er... don't know to be honest, I'm definitely very tempted.
Is that last line about DanielKelly?
Oi, bastard chops!
I don't disagree there
but the squad should be doing better, some of the performances in the last 2 months have been terrible for a team with title aspirations.
exactly
if we were 2nd behind an admittedly brilliant (at getting results, which is what football is about so brilliant is accurate) Man Utd side then do you think I'd be complaining? No, definitely not. Even if we just looked like we were actually up for the fight I wouldn't be too unhappy. The team spirit/fight under Mourinho was top class, without it we look so average.
cuddle Avram Grant?
*shudder*
cuddle Avram Grant?
*shudder*
Don't want him back now
we needed to take forward steps, not backward ones. Having said that, Mourinho can come back whenever he wants to.
we never should have sacked him in the first place
but that doesn't mean we should take him back now.
and it wasn't necessarily the results but more the performances
that were so concerning.
Glad to see the back of the useless chancer.
How that cunt won the World Cup is any guess. Presumably he just got Brazil to stop fighting amongst themselves for three weeks and their natural ability just about got them through it.
He seemed completely clueless about League football and running a team on a daily basis. He couldn't improve the underperforming players and was only able to fuck up previously good ones.
The problem is 'who next?' I've a horrible feeling that bloody Sven will be back again.
At least Hiddink has European experience
Scolari didn't even have that, which is why it was such a stupid decision in the first place. Of course all the pundits started wanking over him anyway, because lets face it, most of them know bugger all.
Never should have got the job in the first place
christ
people like that make me feel ancient and yet they're probably older than me
although thinking about it this is actually the longest arsenal have gone without a trophy in my lifetime
fucking hell
possibly
but that's something completely up in the air
i wouldn't want anyone but wenger in charge of the club for a long while yet
the realisation that this is the longest trophy drought since terry neill shows how incredibly fortunate arsenal fans have been over the last two decades and i really hope the spoilt knobbers that complain so much over possibly finishing 5th don't win
i've not really felt very close to the club since the move from highbury, mind
and the new badge and current home shirt make me feel ill
Not a bad lot to choose from
And that's probably the order I'd take them in actually. Zola would be a risk, but I love him and I don't really fancy Mancini.
Rijkaard's another Scolari
His only success has been with a great team
His only *job* has been with a great team. He's done nothing to prove himself.
I probably should have checked to see it was his first job before saying it
Either way, the point still stands.
I don't believe that post
it was completely by accident. "I'd take them" "I love him" and "I don't really fancy Mancini" hahahaha :D
oh please do
then we can get martin jol back and complete our transformation back to 2005
Harry Redknapp is a much better manager than Martin Jol
not until he gets us two 5th place finishes he isn't
Some points
1) kissinginkansas my dear lad, I adore you. Some of the stuff you come out with is fantastic. Ridiculous beyond belief, but amusing reading. It's sometimes clear you're just making stuff up.
2) I'm a tad sad about this. I liked Scolari as a man and think that he wasn't given the resources reports last summer claimed he had been promised. There is a clear lack of integrity among Chelsea's hierarchy and I think that has shined through ever since Ken Bates' last few years at the club. The timing is also ridiculous; I said to the guy I was sat next to in the stands at the weekend that I thought the Hull result had sealed his fate but I expected him to hang on until May.
3) Lack of integrity aside, Scolari was doing a truly awful job. He made no attempt to shake up tactics, would often refuse to make any subsititions in games when things weren't going well and when he did they were often bizarre or merely like-for-like. It seems to me he should have shown some willingness to experiment or really asked the players how they wanted to play. It's 90% the same side as the last few years afterall, which leads me to believe the problem ultimately lay with Scolari's tactics.
4) I don't want a big name, I want someone who loves Chelsea (and is competent obvs). I'd love Zola/Clarke, but they are too gentlemanly to leave West Ham (part of the reason I love them).
Mostly the comment about how long his contract was
A quick search of news stories from the time he was appointed shows pretty much everywhere reporting it as being a two year contract. There won't be a massive compensation pay-out.
I'd actually quite like Hughes for the reason you've said. Infact, I wanted him in the summer. I think Bilic would have the exact same problems Scolari did.
I agreed with pretty much all of your long post
but I really don't want Hughes as manager.
I guess specifics will always evade the likes of us
I think the problem with the perception of Chelsea is that we've needlessly sacked managers before (Gullit, Vialli, Mourinho and arguably Grant) so it looks bad when someone who really needed to get the boot does so.
FFS
Looks like we've sacked our web monkey too. I just want to buy a Juventus ticket. Bet the fuckers have sold out by the time I can get the site to work.
Bastard things did sell out too.
Shit.
LOL at Chelsea fans saying
he was out of his depth and not up to the standard for a club their size
the man they need is quite clearly Glenn Roeder
if he takes over a club at this point in a season then he always has a magical honeymoon period that guarantees a great upturn in the clubs fortunes.
at least until midway through his first full season as boss.
He was tactically out of his depth for the Premiership
yes
yeah but that's not what 'the fans' are saying
they're all about how he wasn't a manager of suitable stature for the club
oh
well that is stupid
ctrl+f 'roy hodgson'
surprising...
Sven is the rumour over here in the Nordic region... but he's the perennial rumour in times of managerlessness for any european club more-or-less
Anyone got a link to the videos of
Ferguson, Benitez, O'Neill and Wenger pissing themselves laughing?
This is all pretty amusing.
As long as Chelsea don't try to unsettle Capello.
maybe they could hire 'arry to
talk about what a quality manager he is
I leave for 5 hours....
and look the longest thread I've ever started.
What are the chances of Bilic getting the nod? I hope not, I've got my eye on him for the Arsenal job.
I don't understand why people think this is necessarily a bad thing for Chelsea
if we appoint the right bloke, we could have a honeymoon period until the end of the season, resulting in possible silverware.
But changing managers mid-season usually
does little good is the problem
We're in February, right?
even a quick honeymoon period will do at the moment. If it doesn't last until May, we'll still be better off than if we'd have kept big Phil. I'm not saying there will definitely be a honeymoon period, but it's worth a try.
Didn't he say he's going to stop managing Croatia after the euro's?
That must surely improve his odds.
they need zola
but oh looks like we have him (we as in west ham) and he's here to stay
Yay!
He should be blaming Real not City
Robinho wanted to join Chelsea.
well... he shouldn't be blaming anyone
but you get my point
don't be stupid
...and we are a club with deep and obvious integrity?
Zola's lawyer
"It is very difficult to say if anything will happen, but Chelsea is a special place for Gianfranco Zola."
Hmmm.
Appointing Zola would be ridiculous on two fronts
First of all, it would be ridiculous for Chelsea to go for somebody that unproven. He's clearly doing well at the moment, but are we all now saying that a successful run of 10 games makes you fit to manage a club aiming to win the Champions League?
Secondly, it would be ridiculous for Zola to take the job right now. Stay at a decent sized club, prove yourself and then move on in a few years when you're ready
I think Rijkaard would be the best/most realistic option for Chelsea right now, but that's just me
The way Chelsea is being run is now akin to a Spanish or Italian club
It's just getting silly. How many times do people need it pointed out that STABILITY is the key to ongoing success. Granted, Arsenal aren't doing too hot right now, but you only need to look at us, Man Utd, Everton and arguably now Villa to realise that it pays to get somebody in and give them time to make the club/team run the way they want it run
It's amazing that other clubs so spectacularly fail to realise this
People were saying arsenal were falling apart....
halfway through 2005/2006 when we were fifth, and pires, ljungberg, vieira, campbell, reyes, cole seemed past it or disinterested and then a few months later we were in the champions league final.
I don't think chelsea would have had such a quick turnaround, or even that Scolari was the man for them, but it seems like they don't know what they are looking for in a manager or that they have a competent structure in place for the manager to know his role and work within.
Arsenal have probably given a bit too much responsibility to Wenger over the years (can't believe Pat Rice has the tactical nouse of a Carlos Queiroz) but they have had a policy and stuck by it and it's paid off
oh vieira had gone
my mistake
"Sounds like"
What sounds like anything? There has been absolutely no comment made by any authoritative source whatsoever.
Oh, it could happen.
But then anything with the almost infinite realms of possibility could happen.
This
should not have been headline news
and should not have so many replies
football is gash. get over yourselves.
Moron
at least i'm not you
How can you be sure?
Perhaps the world is a big computer game blah blah blah. Honestly, it's like traipsing several miles to your nearest farm, kicking in the barn door and loudly exclaiming that you don't like farm animals one bit and they should all vacate the barn on your whim.
He's got a point
I'd hate to be you
I can see why having a good Catholic heritage would pain you
yeah, that's exactly what it's like.
oh wait, no, it's actually very, very different.
sure, have your sports section on the news, go and stand in the rain watching leather be kicked around by morons that're apparently worth millions, i'm not telling you how to live, but please don't put the idea of some fat idiot football manager in the same level of importance on the news as hundreds of people being burnt to death in australia.
maybe i'm jealous. my good morning thread got no replies yesterday. i was just trying to be nice. where were you then daniel kelly? where were you then?
and for the record, i do not like farmyard animals.
It is exactly like that
You don't like football and think it's fundamentally stupid, fair enough. Why on Earth you'd feel the compulsion to announce that in an obvious football thread, only you would know.
What the media covers isn't governed by importance and it never has been. It's governed by what the largest group of people are interested in.
Why are you interested in a load of people dying in a foreign country?
hahahahah
made my day
im not really shocked, results game im afraid
hands off our zola and clarke.
Un. Befuck. Inglievable.
Looks likely it will be Hiddink until May
Which I think could be ideal. I'm not sure he'd be ideal on a permanent basis, but he is a great man manager and has a strong relationship with Abramovich, so I think he could at least identify which individual players had problems and relate that to the owner (I could tell him, as could anyone else, but alas, we don't command the respect of Hiddink) which would be beneficial for seasons to come. I'd trust him to sort the likes of Drogba out one way or another.
And while I don't think Zola could be tempted away now, I think a summer move could be on. We'd get a better look at him between now and then and whilst I think he is too much of a gentleman to leave the Hammers in the lurch, I think he'd find it hard to say no to his best beloved if they came knocking in the close season.
Not sure on Hiddink.
Strikes me as similar to Scolari, meant to be a great man manager but has done little in club management outside of the Dutch league. Holland should have won that World Cup in 1998 and he has overachieved with limited resources at international level.
Sure, I think he'd perhaps be a poor permanent appointment
but that doesn't seem to be an option anyway. Scolari never struck me as a man manager and the way he had Chelsea playing (even at the start of the season) reflected, to me at least, he more of a team unit mentality which let him down when it came to dropping underachievers or changing tactics mid-game. Hiddink has always come across (again, to me at least) as someone who looks at a team on a micro level, building on individuals which is what we need right now, at a point we can't make changes to the squad.
Yeah, sorry was just commenting on Hiddink in general
always struck me as the Sam Allardyce of international football.
Please don't stick Hiddink and Allardyce in the same sentence
He won the European Cup with PSV
Yep
21 years ago
"has done little in club management outside of the Dutch league"
I was simply disputing your statement, you should have said 'in the last 10 years' or something then
One European Cup is 'little' in my eyes
and he has only managed in a top league for a couple of years when at Madrid and Betis and both of those stints ended badly.
Not sure about this appointment
they might need a boost in the short term and this might get that, but what about long term stability.
He's apparently going to stick with Russia through their qualifying campaign so how will that effect any long term plans Chelsea have?
Hiddink wouldn't quit if Russia qualify, would he?
Without the stability of a proper permanent appointment will the summer see the likes of Drogba and Lampard jumping ship for Europe?
I think at this point in the season, you can only look short-term
A colleague's just announced to us all that Mancini's going to get the job
Pulse/finger absence.
Somehow this is the first I've heard of this...
Has Spalletti been mentioned yet? He's always linked with big moves.