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I'm pretty sure it exists. Like many things, it's used as an easy excuse by some people who in reality are just lazy though.
Do I think it is sometimes misappropriated (particularly by middle class parents of underachieving children)? Yes also. Saying it is a complete myth is nonsense.
but my friend just got a brand new mac-book pro because he's dyslexic. Why mac-book pro's? why not a normal laptop that dosn't cost £1000's???
than it knows what to do with. I used to do admin for an office doing that stuff (assigning equipment for learning support) and it's usually just a case of people not understanding what's needed. Whereas someone savvy might have cut that request down to a £400 device, someone else might go "ooohh what's a mactop" and think it's fine.
It's unlikely that MacBook Pro cost more than another generic PC. When it breaks, though, that kid's gonna feel the burn when he has to replace it at full cost.
I don't hate Apple or Microsoft but the two companies are equally cynical and evil. Apple aren't some kind of angelic benevolent company, you know?
we have superior diagnostic tools and better overall standards, so that it's an environment in which functional impairments can actually come to light. People who function very well nowadays with dyslexia-specific teaching methods would have been branded general idiots back in the day, and abandoned to the lower teaching sets. Intelligence is modular, and this dude seems to show no appreciation for that.
and if they are difficult they are autistic
he doesnt have asthma.
i actually seem to be dyslexic. i dont actually know how to spell it tho.
this doens remind me of a "facebook chat" i had the other say with someone where i wrote, "wow your spelling is worse than mine", to which she replied, "yeah, i'm dyslexic remember?"
some people are just not very good with words like i'm not amazing with numbers...it's not a learning difficulty it's just a weakness, and i hate the fact they label it so and as someone said above give you free laptops and shit.
Forget about whether it exists or not for a second. A disorder, psychological or physiological, can be ideally defined as a set or cluster of symptoms which can be detached from general/overall functioning. Like the flu, or cancer. Cancer's a good one; before we were able to diagnose it, it was classed as a general malady leading to death. It wasn't til we understood that it was a specific problem that we could deal with it.
In diagnostic terms, Dyslexia meets the criteria for being a specific condition, rather than poor general functioning. The key thing is that dyslexics reating high general intelligence while having specific impairments of reading and writing.
If the label is specific, then the label is useful.
where does that lead to, ultimately? The more we understand about biology, the more clusters of symptoms we'll be able to isolate and pathologise, such that ultimately any 'functional impairment' anyone has will become a disease that's subject to treatment or some kind of compensation.
ITS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD
Firstly, s the treatment effective? That is, does the relevant remedial reccomendation bring that individual back up to normal functioning without needing to address general function? That sounds a bit wanky, so: say there's a dude staggering about on the street, and can barely walk. You give him a load of cognitive and mobility support to help him, and this costs loads of money. Or, you see if there's a root cause, and address it with an easy treatment if so (the man is drunk, so take his gin away).
In these cases, I think being able to pinpoint and treat more disorders is great. If the disorder can't be treated or helped (other than general support), then it tends to receive less attention. Medicalisation of 'normal' traits is only a problem, I think, if there are no effective interventions.
but your conclusion is retarded.
If somebody has a functional impairment what is wrong with helping them?
you have clearly considered a lot of evidence.
but i doubt it's as common as people think - ie some people using it as an excuse for underacheiving or a child just being a bit dimmer than its peers
about how some people i've known have really struggled with it but how at the same time i reckon there are plenty of families using it as an excuse for having children who just don't live up to their expectations
i reckon. And probably because of poor teaching. But it's still a disease and not fiction.
I can't make that kind of judgement or diagnosis... everyone's perception and understanding is different!
but in theory you can pathologise any aspect of human variability.
I'm really untidy - I think it's because I have dystidya. Can I have a free cleaning lady?
*hides terrorist poetry*
I'll leave some money on the kitchen table. There'll be some change
and only an idiot would leave money out while the cleaners round
Jobsworth. I want someone else.
I used to work in dyslexic support and it's a complete RACKET.
in order to get themselves a nice macbook through uni.
Are you playing the system?
it maddens me though that they get such an expensive bit of kit. Like Siobhan said, why do they need to be given something that's so much when there are perfectly good laptops for a fraction of the price of a mac. At least that way they could use the money saved to make provisions for something else.
"Oh, I can't read words! Is that Open or Close? Is that On or Off!?"
they probably shouldn't have been. That's a failure of the local authority (unless the MBP in question had a piece of new, mac-specific software that the person had requested)
It's a bit of a joke when they could be putting money into funding more TAs or learning support.
in my experience people working in these roles aren't always the most tech-savvy. And local government offices can be notoriously inefficient in worse ways than this, too.
an MBP might be overkill for.. well, most things, really, but perhaps if you factor in the discount, the form factor (the person is going to have to carry this thing everywhere), and possibly the benefit of having OSX, then it's not so bad.
There are some very bright people who can’t spell or are crap with numbers cause their brain works in different ways. I know i have done most of the tests to see how the brain works certain things out and dyslexics defiantly work in a different way, even with good teachers it cant just be sorted out easily. So I feel this is some misguided attempt for this mp to get noticed. I agree people take the piss but that does not mean it doesn’t exist. Tackle the people taking the piss out the system.
but my mum says it's just because I had a rubbish teacher in Primary 1 who would often say to me "You're rubbish at maths. You'll never be any good at it".
So I'm not sure.
but vastly overstated.
I was tested about 5 times for it and various schools cos my handwriting was scruffy.
but I can read much quicker than most people, which I told them every time before the test.
I probably hold the pen wrong.
are you going to Zonino?
(I'm saying this to keep excitement levels high, but I'm not.)
I would have given you an autograph.
But not now
What next, short-sightedness does not exist because you can get contact lenses?
He clearly has little understanding. Dyslexia does not mean you can not read at all. I know a person who reads more than anybody else I know, who studied English A level but was dyslexic.
is it contextual at all e.g. is it specifically linked to text/words or is there a disorder of being able to comprehend any equivalent patterns/structures?
but from annecdotal evidence it seems easy-ish to misdiagnose. A lad at uni took the test just on the offchance and ended up getting diagnosed and claiming himself a free mac book. he was in his mid 20s and had never really had any learning/reading problems symptomatic of dyslexia.
but I think it's unfair how in exams at school some of the dyslexic children were given extra time and allowed to write their essays on the computer. You can write a lot more on a computer than you can by hand, dyslexic or not.
surely most people can write quicker than type. Unless they are crap at writing I suppose.
so that they can use spellcheckers etc to correct some of the stuff they write? that's bound to take a while
when typing and your hands don't start to ache etc.
Do you think dsylexic people enjoying strugling with text that we take for granted and enjoy listening to whingers telling them that they have got it good?
having extra time, but then everybody should be allowed to use a computer as it's a lot quicker than handwriting. I think that having a computer and extra time is an unfair advantage. Having extra time and handwriting I have no problem with.
but some people should get over it. My sisters got it fairly severely but is doing English lit at uni so people who use it as a fall back excuse are just lazy.
He got whole heaps of free shit, and generally used it as an excuse because he wasn't very good at his subject. Somehow hes now doing a PHD in it, I have no idea how it got it and no-one else does.
but it is a term that is heavily abused and I think that the MP is on to something when he decrys the 'industry' surrounding it. Bottom line is that some people find it harder to read than others, in the same way that others are not brilliant at maths or music.
It seems much easier for everyone (both teacher and sufferer) to complain of a medical condition rather than address the fact that what works as a teaching tool for one kid may not be best suited to another. I'm 'mathslexic' and I eventually got over it.
The difference between reading and maths/music, is that reading underpins a lot of basic perception. It isn't about being able to read books; it's about being able to interpret visual symbols meaningfully.
There are no identifiable 'maths' functions in the brain as there are (in line with lots of evidence) with visual-verbal ones. An inability to do maths is general, not specific. Music, perhaps less so.
but I agree that it is used as an excuse by parents/schools and the children themselves too often.
I have a friend who simply can't spell, but blames it on dyslexia.
and only in extreme cases creates learning difficulties. Most cases can be overcome pretty easily. I volunteered with a reading programme with kids who had trouble reading, and most of them came pretty close to overcoming it. I also know people who're pretty senior educational psychologists and they think dyslexia is misdiagnosed a lot of the time.
But it still exists.
my friend went through school and always got good results in English etc. and read a lot, but was found to be dyslexic recently when tested.
but then again some people have difficulty playing football [though of cause this has much less impact on someones day to day life] and some people have difficulty in picking up new languages. You could easily label these two inabilities as syndromes and you'd easily be able to find differences in the way people who are good at football process spacial information or have more efficient skeletal muscle. Thus providing hard medical proof that 'footballexia' exists. I think the real question should be whether or not labeling people with 'dyslexia' does them any good, or if it just provides an excuse for the child and a 'save-face badge' for the parents who don't have to feel bad any more when little Timmy comes home with an F on his English homework.
what you have described is commonly refered to as having "difficulty with reading and writing".
Dyspraxia could be descibed as footballexia if you like, so that disorder exists. Otherwise, for the majority, football ability is more likely to be directly related to practice and from what age football was started. Obviously some individuals will excell but that happens in every single walk of life.
his argument doesn't make sense, even if those methods of teaching are better for people who have difficulty reading and writing, but that doesn't mean that the condition doesn't exist. I agree that schools should make more of an effort to get students who struggle with words up to the same standards as the average pupil rather than giving them longer in exams etc, but saying that it doesn't exist is silly.
We do a dyslexia clinic at uni and prescribe people various things that improve their reading speed etc by a ridiculously large amount. Some people read better with certain coloured filters placed over a page of text and everyone seems to have a different specific colour that works for them. There's no scientific rationale behind prescribing these colours though, which is weird. But it really seems to work.