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Is awesome. Has anyone read Whistle and I'll come to you my lad? It's spine tingling.
I used to listen to stuff read by Michael Hordon on cassette from the library when I was a nipper.
H.P. Lovecraft is pretty good too. Poe is on a par.
but he isn't really very similar to James.
He doesn't write like him, that's true. But people tend to recommend authors based on genre. While he's clearly SF, he approaches it purely as a means to a story that is chilling and horrific, which is really where James is coming from.
More Horror. But really while he took influences from many authors (James included) Lovecraft's writing was so strange and different and his acolytes so slavish in their imitation of him, he is almost in his own genre.
Okay, so it's not SF in the sense 2001 is SF but while ghost stories are about events that confound science, Lovecraft's are always about things that science has yet to discover. There's nothing in his tales that is 'magic'.
He's really a strange writer, both great and awful at the same time. M.R. James and Poe are both better to read I think. But they all have a similar flavour, I think.
and sunken cities etc. Arguably his writing isn't SF because it's creating a new mythology.
I see nothing SF in it.
and you're right that while he can be a great writer he has terrible aspects as well. Dialogue for instance, he is extraordinarly poor. I read somewhere that in the 1 million or so words in his books only 10000 words are dialogue.
I don't know how you can fail to see Lovecraft as a writer of SF. Even the books of which you speak are more akin to bibles about the creatures from other worlds.
The sunken cities are still cities that exist thanks to alien involvement. The themes of his books are very much Sci-Fi. His Wikipedia page puts him amongst American Science Fiction writers.
As in the "real" thing. It just makes me frustrated to argue with him.
It was created as a Call of Cthulhu supplement so maybe he saw that and didn't understand RPGs?
knocking about. And he's an artist, so... When we were at uni he spent a fair amount of time attempting to practise sorcery.
i read a load of his stories over christmas. my favourite is probably "the stalls of barchester cathedral" but they are all great. has anyone ever seen the old bbc 'ghost stories for christmas' adaptations of his stuff? worth searching out and the "lost hearts" one still gives me nightmares to this day!
Penguin are doing this range of Victorian horror stories at the moment with uber-fit covers.
I like the one with the rhyme of the ancient mariner in where the bus has the pane of glass in with the information. It's either O Whistle... or a similar sort of theme.
I know the one you mean, with the runes. 'Tis good.
which is my name.
I revisited a book of his ghost stories a while ago and they are awesomely creepy and scary. Oh, Whistle and I'll Come to You My Lad is one of the best. Just the title is so menacing after you've read the story. It was going round in my head for days after. The Mezzotint might be my favourite.
H.P. Lovecraft is probably slightly more ridiculous and quite different from James, but you can definitely see M.R.'s influence in his stories. Read The Thing on the Doorstep if you haven't already.
I got all excited and forgot to read the thread.
might be my favorite. Oh Whistle is great as well though.
and also shadow out of time are two of the greatest things i've ever read.
meaning to check out some James.