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I'm in rather a film mood at the moment.
What's your favourite? Two for me:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eRVm_TAE24A SLJ in Pulp Fiction
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ACYu_ZNNA Quint in Jaws
speech nearly made me cry last time I saw it. HOW LAME.
The Devil's Advocate
Also Scent of a Woman:
is the most out of context thing in any film ever
when i saw the thread title i was ready to leap in and say 'the ezekiel 25:17 scene from pulp fiction must not be mentioned because it's too darn obvious'.
still a mint scene.
without a doubt
Also the rant that Pacino directs at Spacey.
but i bet it is WRONG
loads of waiters in Moscow and St Petersberg went out on strike because they were angry at receiving tips, which they saw as demeaning.
FACT OF THE DAY?
You don't tip someone in McDonald's but they're pretty much doing the same job. Why does society tell us to not tip these people over here, but tip these people over there? It's for the birds. If she doesn't get paid enough, she can quit"
I've tipped twice before, because the service was genuinely excellent. Aside from that, they're doing their job. I didn't get tipped when i was young and working in WHSmith and spent 15 minutes running all over the place finding their David fucking Pelzer book for them.
2. When somebody is paying £3 for a meal, and they have a relationship with the McDonalds employee for about 90 seconds, there is no reason to leave a tip.
3. Most McDonalds staff will be on more money than your average waiter/waitress.
4. You won't have worked under anything like the pressure people who wait tables work under in WHSmiths. This is a fact. You won't have had to work until 1 or 2 in the morning (or possibly later), done a 14 hour shift, or broken sweat for more than about 6 hours per year.
5. I have some sympathy with people saying "why should I tip when the service wasnt all that?". Fair enough if it was terrible and it was the waiter's fault. NOT FAIR if the food took too long (in your opinion). NOT FAIR if you didn't especially like the food. NOT FAIR if the waiter did everything right, but you just didn't notice that he did. The reason you had a really good time was down to the fact that he/she has been working fucking hard and knows his/her job inside out, and the reason you didn't notice him/her doing it is because he/she is fucking good at it.
6. "Aside from that they're just doing their job". Yes, but in many cases a waiter's wage will depend on their tips. They may be paid a wage of about £1.80 p/h, effectively a retaining fee, and their wages over and above that will depend on tips. The night that they are really really busy and don't spend 15 licking your arse while your party places the most annoyingly complex and off-menu order should not be the night that they get paid less as a reward.
7. "If she doesn't get paid enough, she can quit". It is a skilled job and very hard labour to boot. If you didn't like your job in WHSmiths, you should have become a waiter because its harder work, and you get paid more. Farily.
8. For anyone who has ever worked in catering/service industry, these are self evident truths.
LOL i thought that was still Mr Pink talking about working in Smiths
and forgot all about my time waiting at a place in Glasgow. I have had plenty experience in the service industry, so my stance on tipping isn't down to naivety.
If people dislike the pressures of waiting so damn much and think they deserve an added tip they should go and work in McDonalds then, if, like you say, the wages are better. I pay the prices that are listed on the menu; i don't go into a shop and expect to pay more for the product i've taken up, so restaurants is no different.
Waiting is hardly a strenuous job, and in the UK where minimum wage exists, you're fucked if i'm paying extra because society says i should.
but you had it easy if it wasnt strenuous.
and im not saying I hated it. I actually liked it. enough to do it for two years anyway.
I dont feel bitter about the conditions or the wages I recieved. I think people should get paid more by employers, but I was generally happy with and grateful for the tips I recieved. The only people I'm railing against are the stingy, ungrateful arseholes who like to make a point of not tipping because it gives some kind of moral front to their totally-lacking-in-empathy cold, black hearts.
I'm polite and courteous to the staff, but that's my nature - i'm not going to tip because they return the courtesy of being polite.
But i don't now, nor did i then, think i was due some sort of bonus. I chose to work there, i knew what the wage was and what the job was, so i accepted it and quit when i decided i didn't like it any more.
We're not going to change one another's opinion, so hey
continue making points when we're clearly not in agreement whatsoever with one another and i don't see anyone benefiting from the other's opinion
just the argument we were having
It's the food and environment. Someone bringing me a bottle of wine and then cleaning up some plates and carrying them to the kitchen and then asking how my food is, taking a card payment and giving me my jacket doesn't mean i should give them a tip: it's their job
the further we stay away from the tipping culture they have in america the better.
because he's a little pussy creep.
In the UK that doesn't really happen. I don't tip someone in Fopp for selling me CDs, so i don't see why i should tip someone for carrying a plate from the kitchen for me
then that means that I do the same job as a waiter, only in a slightly different environment. And I most certainly don't.
Fopp: ask for CD // check computer // runs around the shop hunting down CD for me // not on shop floor so checks stockroom // fights off loads of people asking questions on the shop floor because they already have a customer // finds CD // charges me for it
Restaurant: takes an order // puts order into kitchen // collects order from kitchen and brings to table // clears plates // charges me for it
where the guy just says "...but the waters receeded" and the end of everything he says
and Rutger Hauer (?) in Blade Runner
I LOVE THAT FILM TOO MUCH.
because I am a man
Ken: Harry, let's face it. And I'm not being funny. I mean no disrespect, but you're a cunt. You're a cunt now, and you've always been a cunt. And the only thing that's going to change is that you're going to be an even bigger cunt. Maybe have some more cunt kids.
Harry: [furious] Leave my kids fucking out of it! What have they done? You fucking retract that bit about my cunt fucking kids!
Ken: I retract that bit about your cunt fucking kids.
Harry: Insult my fucking kids? That's going overboard, mate!
Ken: I retracted it, didn't I?
plus the pacino speech in any given sunday i think it is.
Right now, poised at the edge of the galaxy, Emperor Zurg has been secretly building a weapon with the destructive capacity to annihilate an entire planet! I alone have information that reveals this weapon's only weakness. And you, my friend, are responsible for delaying my rendezvous with Star Command!
in Third Man. Amazing.
WHATS THIS BOOOOOOOLSHIT?
I DON'T FUCKING CARE!
IT DON'T MATTER TO JESUS!
Listen here pandejo...
You pull any of your crazy shit with me, you flash your piece out on the lanes...
I take it away from you, I shove it up yo ass and pull the trigger til it goes CCCCLICK!
Nobody fucks with the JESUS!"
"8 year olds Dude"