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Discuss. Remember, the older you get the more reactionary you become.
People do veer towards the right as they get older - not everyone obviously but you find the most vociferously 'leftie' types at college and University become intolerant and more liberatarian as they get older.
But i'm probably wrong because Bamnan says so and he knows EVERYTHING
Fuck off. I hate the DM. I can't hate its readership as my in-laws read it. So you can fuck right off with your allusions if you think I'd actually read it.
"Anyone who isn't a liberal when theye're 18 doesn't have a heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're 40 doesn't have a head".
Still, doesn't mean I succumb to reading the lowest common denominator journalism that is the Daily Mail. My parents get it, so I see it often enough now - and there's no way I would ever pay money in order to read it.
every week without fail.
you are right though - its funny that we think we're all so well informed and radical when in fact before our very eyes we're turning into the Little Englanders we always feared we'd become
LIKE DOOFUS MATHROCK
Is stereotypical bollocks - pessimistic nonsense.
You become what you want.
I don't believe in a mirthless England - I still have some faith in its people.
I've haven't seen it. It seemed applicable for this thread anyway.
Further to my cliched quote, I'd like to add the the Mail doesn't cover the arts, film, music, and literature in any of the same depth that something like the Guardian or the Times does, as so, for that reason, I'm out.
Actaully, I don't drink hot drinks. But if I did, I would. Yes.
i don't read newspapers, i don't like how biased they are. i watch the news, thanks.
and we like to 'lol' in the office about the angry writing in the Mail and how I laugh when i get ribbed for being the 'leftie' for reading the Guardian, but I do often think that if you take out the subtext of both papers there's not that much difference really.
the guardian is really self righteous
the independant is patronising
i sometimes read the scotsman, but that has too much local rubbish news about some school that's picking up rubbish or whatnot.
I keep an eye on the internet for news, on wikipedia etc, and i watch bbc news to keep up with everything else.
but most of the time i just get left feeling really irritated. Saying that, the guardian has a lot of quite interesting stuff in it generally, but a few of the writers piss me right off.
and i don't want to become one of those liberals who is just as intolerant of right-wingers as "we" seem to think they are of us, that doesn't make much sense.
But anyway, i read papers semi-regularly. The guardian for the crossword and the (now sadly defunct) david shrigley strip, and it sometimes has very interesting and informative articles, but i just end up feeling a bit disgusted with myself for reading what i think is a very patronising newspaper.
maybe i'll take to reading the Herald, i'm not sure what it's like but i might like it.
my parents read it, and they're pretty ok people (Y)
what papers do you read colin?
and the observer on sundays
hooray! observer has a good crossword. you are wise in the ways of newspapers.
that the news has no bias???
it does, but i just think it has less.
Once I even bought the Express solely because the front page headline was something like "Immigrants threat to white men"
and I wouldn't wipe my arse with the Daily Mail.
will veer towards the former more than the latter as they get older or follow their parent's mortgage and tax obsessed kneejerk ideology eg "Why should I pay my taxes so someone with no legs can get a wheelchair and a tin of Roses EVERY christmas when I have to buy things with money and live comfortably?"
Besides, I had already qualified by saying 'if I had to consider myself anything'- I don't think it is helpful or even possible to box up your political beliefs.
Prole- you're a twat sometimes. Other times I haven't got a clue what you are.
i think that sums him up
FAIL. It is an observed phenomenon that as some of people get older, they drift to the right. They don't drift into stupidity.
This is why my dad now reads the Telegraph AND the Times. Instead of just the Telegraph.
ears through a shredder
is other people's beliefs or idealogies in the same way that fundamentalists and Mail readers don't tolerate 'ours' so in a way that makes both 'camps' leaning heavily towards a form of state fascism then.
Here we go..................
I don't think Fundamentalists and the Daily Mail are sincere
they are manipulative
that would be really bad
like no one else has ever had one?
I then think about their opinions, decide they're both wrong, and forget about it until tomorrow.
WHICH IS OWNED BY THE DAILY MAIL!!!!
al publications I bet the 'libertarians' on here read everyday. Its a good way of getting people slowly and surely on the path to the Daily Mail - genious marketing technique.
But at the same time - can you read a paper tha espouses beliefs you don't attune yourself to but enjoy 'the quality of the writing' - i only read the Guardian for the writing of some not all the journos and columnists but am happy to ignore half the doggerel in there - could people read the Mail and be like this?
because I walk to and from work. What am I missing out on?
Also, the letters section of the FT is a hoot. They had a funny article the other day about 'How do I tell people at christmas parties that I'm an investment banker?'. It was like Dear Deidre for people who earn £200K+ a year
but I've never bothered picking up a copy myself. I think I can live without it, just
: incidences of misreading that you wish were true
Its time-consuming enough reading just one of them cover to cover, let alone pretty much all of them. Is it part of your job or something?
The evening ones are just for people who can't be bothered to watch anything but Eastenders and the dying of the light in their eyes as they try on the latest tat they got from Primark in front of their hall mirror.
You really need a better perspective. Or something.
humantity or Paul Dacre as the owner of the Mail?
exist to reinforce a dead culture; to entrench the position you have had chosen for you. You read more and absorb the stock responses, the bankrupt opinions on things that never really mattered, rehearsing your steps in the clockwork waltz of living death we are all required to preform. When will we live? When!
Take a breath in.
I should be clinging to the bonnet of a speeding car and laughing wildly as it careers around the concrete and carrier bag streets of a provincial town, a drunk at the wheel, tears streaming from his eyes as he repeatedly punches his fist on the dash, shouting: "Why? Why?"
But I'm not. I'm in an office. Where are you? Does it hurt?
Not in that scene from that Tarantino fil-um.
But I carve poems of love and fire into the mdf veneer of my workstation.
You sound like someone I met once.
He was anti-social and made odd music.
I'm a social butterfly and make loud, angry, disjointed music.