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or is it just me
but with money rather than Windows 3.1.
world and indeed domestic finance
Sometime after a large number of people have lost their jobs / savings
its worse than that
and you'll always have mine :P
Man, those were the days.
srsly. best post in this thread.
My theory is it's all engineered anyway to scare people into submitting to this 21st century money-worship the white pigs on top of the shit pile would have us believe is a new age kind of Mecca. I think only human beings or retarded amoeba could get this panicky and terrified over a 'struggling' economy which is fake to begin with. Think about it, people. If we're really in such dire straits then why is the government considering giving the unelected spongers in Buckingham Palace even more money to stand as 'national icons'? Why have none of the MP's volunteered to dock their salaries or freebies? Why are those smug cunts who work in vague, faceless jobs 'in the City' still working in those vague, faceless jobs 'in the City'? It's all bollocks.
you picked the wrong mushrooms
Make sure it's a retort and that it's witty. You student, you.
some dissers were complaning about all the 'Belgiums',from about 3 yrs ago.
and theres the,you know,stalking
Is that voicing an opinion like the one I just have immediately opens you up to attack from those who will give up their very lives to protect a system that rapes them daily and dissolves their will to change anything about themselves, their environment or their society. The responses above are redolent of the offended terror one feels when everything they hold dear is exposed as the bitterly pointless and numbingly inevitable arse-fucking we all know this society delivers without qualms or conscience.
That makes as much sense
as your mum after several hard rounds of bondage.
So why are national governments bothering to intervene in the first place? Why not let all those banks go bust?
And politicians love those who love money. They love them even more when those same people need the government's help to get themselves out of a crisis they themselves created.
I'm one of "those smug cunts who work in vague, faceless jobs 'in the City'", and I pretty much just lost my job today. Because of this global financial crisis. So its not "all bollocks".
If you lost your job today.
stung real bad by your rapier wit there. Also, you're a moron.
Your amazing maths = just one more reason to be glad you're not in charge of the economy.
A site full of Brave Young Professionals, marching fearlessly over the field of battle armed with only a few biros and some good ol' fashioned blue sky thinking. Do you ever feel suicidal? Thinking maybe you're devoting your life to a pointless, pointless way of living?
How many minutes are there between time (a) and time (b)?
but your witty riposte was posted at 20:33, and eschaton's reply to it came at 20:40. So even if he was sitting with this window open, feverishly hitting refresh to see if you'd respond to him, that's still only an interval of seven minutes.
I think that scenario's unlikely, though, because from eschaton's posts on here I do get the impression that he isn't mentally ill either. He was probably just away doing something else. Maybe making a cup of tea, or laughing at retards on another forum. Who can say.
but I don't let it take over my life. Because, y'know, I'm not mentally ill.
Prioritize your status reports so the boss can knock off early and bang his secretary. Convince yourself that a sterile office cubicle and a modest two up two down is the way forward. Introduce friends to acquaintences so the networking can begin. Spend time in wine bars. Pretend your job means something. God knows, millions do it every day.
You've perfectly described my job –– no, my life! How did you know? OH SWEET CHRIST, MY EXISTENCE IS NOTHING BUT A FRUITLESS TRUDGE TOWARDS THE SWEET RELEASE OF DEATH.
It took you fifty-five minutes to write that.
I was watching the first episode of 'Band of Brothers.' See, I have a stable job and so don't need to worry about the high price of Mars Bars or the terrible injustice of poverty being inflicted on the middle classes.
You're not attached to it, are you?
just came back on here - joeymahone is on the money. I don't sit hit here frantically pressing F5 four times a second. But thanks so much for opening my eyes to the reality of my wage slave drudgery. Prior to this thread I was completely oblivious to the workings of our modern capitalist society. I loved and belived 100% in every facet of my working life! Now you've set me on the path to redemption, and I have only you to thank. I'll follow your model of living from now. What was that again? I'm sure its in here somewhere, but perhaps you could remind idiot desk jockeys like me how I should really be living my life again. Thanks ever so.
AND IT ONLY GOES UP TO FIVE! GODDAMN YOU, YOU'VE BROKEN THE FUCKING THING!
You won't ever forget what you did today, because I won't let you.
On another tangent, is Whitney in Eastenders fit? She's nineteen in real life, so it's all good, right?
Does anyone know what the fuck he's on about?
I'm on about Whitney, the buxom teenage harlot in Eastenders, and whether it's okay to think she's fit. Although she's nineteen in real life, she's playing like a fifteen year old in the soap.
I love your 'ooo I'm so indie I don't know what Eastenders is' facade.
I don't think HE knows what the fuck he is on about.
It's just that the people in charge of it aren't.
and now reaching as far as Australia (obvs with a ripple effect it would)...
It is only going to go worse.
I know, I shall hide in the marsupial's pouch until this carefully stage-managed financial crisis blows over.
up until quite recently Australia's economy was quite bouyant (sp?)
Fact: There has never been an unnattractive Oz woman.
'Cos it'd be worthless.' Well, surely not if the powers that be said it wasn't?
You are one of the few people on here worth listening to.
no im not.
but anyway,if we look at the goverment as a monoply,which it is in this regard,it can only control supply,or demand.
so it can flood the market with new notes,but their value will decrease with each new note printed,or they can hang tough,not bother printing out anymore,and be content with a control over their current value.
(hazy memories of economics.it might be profit instead,or something,instead of demand)
Well, it makes sense.
Not doing yourself too many favors.
that I chose the dood over you.
but then hurricanes "blow over" eventually. They still do a fuckload of long-lasting damage whilst they're around though.
but then the messageboard failed.
Advice - enjoy the lolconomy whilst its going. Worry about money on the side
is another war
I'm fairly convinced that unless you're rich it doesn't matter at all.
but I think it is true that if you don't have a mortgage or any investments or work in a job in a company that lends, borrows or invests large amounts of money it's gonna have a limited effect (at least until it hits the cost of living).
You don't need to be rich for those things to apply to you though.
The only reason we're all having to put up with the pissing and moaning is because it's those with money (not necessarily rich) who are being affected. These same people didn't give a fuck when millions of lower-paid manual laborors lost their jobs and began to starve in the 80's. Fuck them, they should have got jobs in more stable companies or bought their fucking houses outright. Now I have to pay more for a loaf of bread or a packet of Jammie Dodgers because Mr and Mrs Middle Class Yuppy Scum and their shit-spawn offspring Joey City Worker and Rosie Fucks Her Boss can't pay back the bank or the mortgage? Fuck them. They deserve it, the fucking useless cunts. Get a real job, not one requiring e-mailing lots of people to 'set up deals' or wear a shirt and tie/blouse with tastefully slutty pencil skirt, a slit just long enough to reveal three inches of thigh but not long enough for the 'boys in accounts' to start spreading rumours. Fucking nine-to-fivers. Die. Die now, you fucking loafers.
you really have all the answers
That was an articulate rant. Thank you anyway, though.
You do realise most people can't afford to by their houses outright? A lot of the people with the mortages will be from the same kind of working-class people as those who lost their jobs in the eighties.
the working classes dont exist like they did in the past and the remnents of them are being hit harder by this situation than anyone else.
construction workers i know who are failing to pay their rent/mortgage due to the complete death of new housing.
Pretty unhelpful in reality.
Why not go and tell some out-of-work-construction workers that and see how they respond?
I like how it's taken you precisely 3 posts to go from ranting about the people losing their jobs being "these same people didn't give a fuck when millions of lower-paid manual laborors lost their jobs and began to starve in the 80's" to not giving a fuck about lower-paid manual labourers losing their jobs and beginning to starve today.
Just not nearly as many.
Incidentally, the price of your Jammy Dodgers has nothing to do with the economic climate, but with the failure of harvests and increasing competition for grain from India and China.
there'll be plenty of people doing pretty menial admin jobs, many of 'em from what would essentially the "working class" (perhaps white collar in name but certainly not in pay), who are now jobless.
She was probably just upset. Which makes it a silly thing to be angry about.
Second, she didn't fuck me, but she did blow me.
Third, it was painfully obvious from the moment I wrote the original sentence about the pencil skirt that the rest of you lemmings/sheep would dutifully latch onto this. But that doesn't change the fact that what I wrote is funny because it's so true. Not about all women who work in offices, mind you.
best troll ever
what about food John?
Dont you eat it?
Dont you use the bus?
Doesnt most of the music you like need amplification by electrical means?
dont you drink water?
And yet my taps are still working and my money still buys things and there is still food on the supermarket shelf.
So from my admittedly completely limited perspective, nothing at all has changed. I have no savings, I have no mortgage, I have no assets that I am furrowing my brow over. I'm just as happy as can be.
but the poor are feeling it as much/more than the rich.
are you insane?
but i may not be in a position to decide. I dont know many/any middle class people losing their houses at the moment, unfortunately it seems to be the poorer people who really bought into the credit card culture.
I've effectively lost my job because of this financial situation.
I disagree somewhat that 'it doesn't matter at all'.
No it won't
this will "blow over". But as said above, not after a fuckload of damage has been done. And me losing my flat in...oooh...March when my mortgage skyrockets.
what makes you say that? cos you want it to blow over? or cos a man with a suit told you it would? or because someone says its happeneed before?
It hasnt happened before like this and the conditions have not existed like this before.
If economists tell you that they understand the market and the eway the economy works, thendoesnt this make the economists and bankers who took loads of money on high risk cculpable and deliberately reckless? in which case jailseems like an apropriate punishment.
If thjey dont understand economics then why do you believe people who dont understantd the economy.
keep your hair on.
I thought that the economy naturally went through peaks and troughs, that's all..
I'll get me coat.
what effect do you reckon this whole fandangle will have on the asian economies?
UN MUST coordinate.
How will the asian economies do ok when a large part of their boom is servicing the wests consuming? and the west can no longer afford to consume.
For gods sake its fucking obvious isnt it, i cant understand why the news is acting all suprised.
ffs its like fucking economists are acting as if they dont understand that everything is tied together irrevocably.
god the financial world is so niave. economists are like lickle babes
because its a crap economic exchange system that we are in thrall of thats why. Its flawed and its flaws are not acknowledged and corrected by anyone cos no one controls it properly. Since it is not controlled it is allowed its own head so it goes running off in whatever direction the design dictates.
The design was not according to what humans need.
When it has gone so far off course that humans cant equate with it it will collapse.
Unfortunately human support systems have been fully integrated into this system which will collapse.
People have chosen/got crap leaders who have allowed this dangerous situation of human support systems being put in jeopardy, because they have not focused on real issues they have squabbled and bickered over stupid blame confrontational party politics.
Because the westernn democracies were better at constructing more efficient devestating war machines than non western democracies and of managing to take a larger share of the worlds resources which it then gives to its citizens in the form of useless baubles and consumer trinkets, it convicnes other stupid regimes that they should adopt this .
Rather than the west then moving on and using the idea of the world all kind of agreeing with dconsumerism and then progressing to something more enlightened it kept squabbling and being irrelevant to future human needs.
Mismangement through a flawed choice of management process
the west had growth,and where did they export to?
im talking during the industrial revolution.
would they not just adapt,and look after other boom economies?
the flow of money and all that
thre western ones and the west might service these with resource, except there is no cheap labour or resource here.
I guess canada and russia have a lot of stuff.
But its unlikely that the aisan economies can fullfill the wests role. for a start off as developing economies china and india have far far more people to increase the lifestyles are and there are far less easy countries to exploit as easy as before.
One things for certain there is now no hope of nations deliberately trying to achieve environmental targets....this might hap[pen as a consequence though
how do you feel about the idea that there'll be revolution in china,once the gov cant provide groth any longer?
i understand that this is like,the second question ive asked,but im curious as to yr opinions on these
seek to keep themselves safe by trying to grab resource to secure themselves....maybe they will try to hide in places like singapore or UAE or something.
I'm more concentrating on what is the best option to prevent it all, to unravel and to stop stuff.
Revolution in china is not a particularly important thing considering the other forces that will be going on.
Rather than organised revolution there will just be thegeneric rioting and civil unrest which will tried to be put down by some gov forces up til the point where different levels of paramilitaries do not share the same allegiances anymore, presidential bodyguards and elite troops might staymore faithful to their remit.
do you think une,ployment is decreasing?
Before you arive at a destination you travel towards it
erm are the symptoms getting better then? i thought they were getting worse
perhaps im living in another world
and they are the most correct projections.
like the cold and cancer one (Im on new site)
but sure yeah cold does not mean cancer, but that is irrelevant as my post //\ was a counter to cac saying we arnt there yet so its not going to happen, which is no sort of sargument at all really its like being on a train to waterloo, butyour not at waterloo yet so you say 'Well I hardly think we're at waterloo yet' well know you're not, but all the indications are is that you will arrive there (unless the UN and govs coordiante and act decisively...and blow up thetrain ;D )
"erm are the symptoms getting better then? i thought they were getting worse
perhaps im living in another world"
That was the bit I was replying to. Which is quite different.
was sort of sarcastic to candc's post cos if you are travelling to a destination '105 unemployment' then it is silly to say that its ok and there is nothing to worry about if we are hurtling towards it
i thought it was from c and c
would you have just let it lie, fully aware of my awesome debating power?
and by locals in surrounding areas, as well as 'suits'... The cabbies have noted this with interest and say it hasn't really been like this 'before'. Lots and lots of people are in negative equity and houses being repossessed every single day are on the increase - with pressures of stress, people turn to outlets which include booze... and during tough times this can breed violence...
I firmly believe this is only the beginning of a very very steep slope.
Like a frightened rabbit in headlights?
Is that what you think govs should do?
The sad fact of the matter, when all is said and done, when the dust has cleared and the noise has died down, the sad fact is that, well, all this talk about the economy is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very boring. Really. It's actually, apart from discussing how much you earn, where you live or what you had for tea last night, it's really the most frightfully dull subject you can talk about. Not even impending financial armaggeddon can make it even slightly interesting.
it's studying the human mind on a grand scale.
how is that boring?
Is it some surrealist flight of fancy you implement when posting? Perhaps an apex of wit and symbolic language melded so brilliantly as to be unreadable to us mere mortals? Or are you just, as my British friends say, 'a doylum'?
We need to cut back on the luxuries we've been taking for granted for the last eleven years. I'd definitely say slash benefits, as well as MP's and the Royal Family's expenses. Small potatoes, yes, but if they don't make sacrifices, how can they expect anyone else to?
I'd also definitely consider cancelling the 2012 Olympics. Put those people to work on other, more useful projects. Long term, that's the big one. The people responsible for this should be held to account, and punished accordingly, including jail time. Like creakyknees said, if they're so eager to use their expertise to save themselves now, why weren't they using said expertise earlier to save 'the little people'?
Anyone who fails to see the consequences of what's happening now, or thinks, 'this isn't going to effect me' really has a very naive view of the world and economics.
Please, do yourself a favour and relocate to America. It would make me REEEEEEEEEALLY happy.
But I did clearly say not all women were like that. In fact, it's not even a small minority, it's a tiny one. And I feel like a patronizing twat saying that, so I'll end with: amplification = comedy, I find.
When you fell from heaven, Satan?
these things always work themselves out. eventually.