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Or is it worth it just for actually having fun in uni? Like, in the actual lectures and stuff.
Your opinions, please:
there's always one thing top of my list
the people on it are pretty lame, but the lectures are just watching films and stuff, and we've had mark kermode in and the polish guy who directed my summer of love
whether you want to get an office job after graduating that sucks the last drops of the life from your already dried up soul or spend five years on the dole after graduating kidding yourself that you're going to get into something really 'creative' before getting an office job that sucks the last drops of the life from your already dried up soul.
Fuck, I'm being a twat tonight. Do what your heart tells you or something.
weatherman of woe
the trouble is that i don't know what i want to do at all. the course i'm doing at the moment is good as it covers all sorts of stuff but if i want to do something different then film studies seems to be one of the more appealing options.... but my inner snob is not too happy about it.
I have no experience of whether film studies is worth taking or not, you'd be a far better judge than me of that.
YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF ANSWERS
seriously. he's less grownup than i am. SCARY, ISN'T IT?
i've met him, it's true, he actually really is
pretending to be JohnM?
i think you were fooled.
1) DanielKelly is but a year older than me (as far as I remember)
2) DanielKelly is blonde, JohnM is not
3) I know what both of them look like
4) YOU FAIL.
Maybe not to you but Brusma isn't making that bit up.
But so far I've never met any of his "victims" in that respect.
next time i meet disers as well. any suggestions?
and I think he fooled a few people as well. But I can confirm I have met Helene and offended her by calling her 'the queen of the night shift'.
old man john with his guided by voices obsession's met helene and i haven't? oh fate, how can you do this to me etc
I just wanted to be liked
joint honours with creative writing. He does fuck all.
i could do a couple of modules from another course as well. like, erm, comparative literature or something.
and get a job, and watch all the tv you like, and go out every night and still have about a million hours of free time
i forgot to mention he is the only person in his class too haha. I do graphic design there, in comparison, they work us like f u c k i n g s l a v e s.
it's pretty great, but they only do it in cardiff and i might want to move away.
i'd just miss out on some other stuff :( plus i might be able to use a couple of the modules i've done on my current course that are film related. HMM.
so quit worrying
i thought you were being sarcastic (maybe you still are?), if you think you'll enjoy it then do it, and fuck the consequences.
i'm working on being nice. yeah i think i would enjoy it, although in theory i would prefer something with just a bit more.... substance, or something. but i certainly could do worse.
it's REALLY substantial
is that what you're doing as well?
i got a third :(
it's enjoyable when i understand it, but that happened about twice in the whole degree. uni was basically a method of delaying employment and moving somewhere more exciting, so i succeeded with that at least.
during my english degree. they were less enjoyable than i thought they were going to be.
i'm trying to work out if i should go back to university or not :(
but it was a crap degree and now, two years out, i've realised that i did totally the wrong thing and that my life is seriously downhill from here and that if i have to be a librarian for ever i might kill myself.
there's a little more to it than alphabetising stuff, believe it or not)
that include visual motifs, mise en scene, ritual scenes, colour theory, issues of narrative and representation and all that funk...
what's not to like?
finding meanings that aren't necessarily there to begin with, etc. great stuff.
is this what you did then?
though I took a module on 'interdisciplinary signs and translations in 20th century popular artefacts'
Did a great essay on how Star Wars was a necessary combination and cleansing of the War and Western genres in post-Vietnam Hollywood to re-establish the valour of battle
the best advice I can give is if you are honestly interested then find the right course. That sounds lame but fuck it, it took me a year and a half to really get into my course and most of them don't set you up for the real world (film industry world that is) which is really important. You WILL start out after Uni on around 10,500 being made to wank of some fat bloke who spends half his time in Spain golfing and also realise that the majority of people who work within 'the industry' have little to no interest it it and really don't consider it to be an art form, which it is. But if you feel pashionatly about it then go for it, maybe try out a short course and get a feel for it. Or get an office job, whoop.
pretty soon and we had like an introduction last year. i did enjoy it and i am pretty geeky about these things so i suppose it could be a good idea. trouble is though, i'm not at all sure that i'd want to work within 'the industry'.
do film studies and some of them are now producers/directors, so it is possibly to make a career out of it, it just takes abit of work and luck.
I however, had my boring hat on when I choose my course and picked science. Nowhere near as fun as a english course.
even most of the english courses fail to grab my attention and keep it for longer than, i dont know - a short while.
if you gonna waste 3 years of your life down the pub, do it in style.
i wish i could convince them to move my course to a different university.
doing a combined course?
i really wanted to do media/cultural/film studies etc,,,,,but had the same thoughts as you so i did it with politics to beef it up a bit.
but the problem is, if i get really carried away with one of the subjects then the other one is just going to seem really boring and like a complete chore compared to it, so i lose all interest and stop trying to do well. but by all means, if i found something that looks ok i would absolutely consider it
Everything you study at uni will be boring.
(What do i know? I did Physics)
not everything is boring. far from it :)
and you get bored of doing one of the subjects, you've still got the other one that isn't boring to make it worth your while (unless you get bored of that too). If you do a normal course you might get bored of it and then have nothing to sustain your interest.
I guess whatever subject you do, even if you find it interesting, there will always be some modules that are dull as shit.
is what i want to go do.
some people like it. I can't really imagine having done anything else. I got bored, but I get bored of everything. It is a good course to do I think, it will teach you good ways of thinking about stuff and people will think you're clever (which I'm sure you are).
All the stereotypes you can imagine for physics lecturers will be true, btw. Erm, also, it might be a good idea to socialise with people off your course, unless you really, really like Back To The Future.
well, i'd be doing it here in manchester, so it's not like i'd be moving to a new city/feeling a need to make friends with course people.
are you doing something related to physics now?
if you study physics and then don't go into a physics-related job, expect a lot of why-not questions (this is probably true of anyone with a science degree doing a £13k admin job). I would just get an answer tattooed across my forehead to point at whenever anyone starts asking about my degree but I'm still holding out some hope that I might one day get a job where people don't ask "why are you working here when you've got..."
expected to go into a physics-related job, seeing as i'd be leaving the 'working world' and going back to university to follow this specific interest. although knowing me, i'd do the degree, then turn around and decide i did want to work in a library after all. i shall carry on considering it :)
and be a librarian in a science library, or be some kind of library scientist researching new and innovative book/library technologies.
takes some self discipline
someimes the politics bored my tits off....especially the first year where it was all looking at electoral systems and that balls...but then i got to pick some really good modules....just a balancing act really and i chose to do my diss on film so that took up most of my third year
as close study of film teaches you a LOT about propaganda and the sophisticated use of various techniques to set or shift agendae or whatnot
it also allows you to 'reverse engineer' it and construct your own tight platform
the most powerful medium or summit like that
It had a strong element of film studies involved with it.
I got stuff out of the practical writing part but not the academic film studies part.
Personally I wouldn't do it on its own. It doesn't really qualify you for a lot and it's not that much fun in lectures. There's a lot of courses that combine it with more practical skills for working in film or television. I'd look at those instead.
Do sum science.
You can act superior to people
Film studies seems like something that seems fun in concept, but doesnt really work out. (A bit like communism really)
not for me.
Cut me deep whiterussian, cut me deep
or skill with that kind of stuff, but i just don't :(
I wish I would have kept my uni courses strictly completely mustilly academic
you can learn everything else outside and later on...really
Maths, Biology, Physics, Music, Linguistics etc - Uni
Film, Social studies, Media - outside uni, in life.
'godard was proving that the way you think about how a film works, its emotional and aesthetic procedures, gives you the tools to understand how the real world works. and thereby to discover , enhance or oppose the active forces that are at play in almost any situation'
And now run a theatre company on the ol' fringe circuit. We've still yet to draw a penny, mind... so I have to have my soul drained a little at an office 9 to 5.
If it's your passion, you've gotta keep chipping away after uni! I say go for it.
and now run this (http://www.myspace.com/thepicturesnight) and work as a TV researcher, which is 1/3 I AM AN OFFICE WORKER, 1/3 reading interesting stuff and 1/3 travelling the globe meeting folks. i'm sure these would have both been do-able without the film studies degree, but it helps, and it was interesting, and i enjoyed it. if it's something you're into, i say go for it. at the end of the day, no-one's going to reward you for doing a more 'worthy' degree, unless it's like medicine or something. there's no point doing something you don't enjoy just so 'people' will say 'oh, they're not doing a liberal arts degree, they must be worthwhile'.
still haven't started earning nearly enough to make a dent in my masses of uni debt though :(
i'd recommend going somewhere more exciting.
I did Law.
He now earns more than twice as much money as me.
in my first year and then just English & Media in the second and third. I found the Film & Media stuff to be very similar to English. Instead of studying literature you apply the same concepts to media texts or films. I loved it.
I am now doing a job that has nothing to do with my degree, but having a degree in the 1st place got me the job.
that as long as i get an actual degree, that's what matters the most. i'm not going to do anything that's a lot more 'substantial' or whatever than this anyway.
enjoy. I personally am not motivated unless I am interested. Don't let people talk you down. I often get the condescending "you did Media?" or even "you did English?". Who cares.