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What are you into?
but seriously folks, the only time I come into contact with comic book people is when they sit for hours in the shop i work at, browing through the comics and being AN OBSTRUCTION...
Plus they usually look really nerdy too and say stuff like "ooh the green lantern, this is a good isue but it's post '97 so, you know... hahah!".
or about cult, underground movies, or having a grotesque number of posts on an internet forum is not nerdy at all, right? ;)
For a seemingly "intelligent" guy you can be pretty pig-headed and ignorant, yes_.
Actually, the most brain numbing conversations I ever had were about music. Most comic book fans I've spoken to at least have a genuine passion that you don't see in most music fans.
you HAVE to be a total nerdo continuity-head / 'passionate' to really follow marvel or DC stuff, with their unending stream of retcons and multiverses and crossovers and FINAL TIME CRISIS 2: THE BLOODENING multi epics.
Or creator owned comics like the stuff Image puts out? Or the individual runs by esteemed writers?
There's plenty of series' in the comic universe to accomodate people who don't want to be "nerds" and follow a character closely, even coming out of Marvel and DC.
i'm talking - as i said - about the majority of DC and Marvel's output.
not in a nerdy way though.
You can love comics in a non nerdy way too, i'm sure. I wouldn't spend an hour browsing through one rack in a record shop, because that's nerdy. Do you see?
i'm the non nerdy comic liker. how about that
So liking anything is okay unless you go too far and become a nerd about it?
I'm not trying to justify rapists as long as they're "not nerdy about rape".
People have a tendancy to describe themselves as a "music nerd" or a "comic nerd" or whatever whilst forgetting that being a nerd is a BAD THING. You can be more passionate and more into whatever you like than a "nerd"(read: "bore") of the subject, as long as you're not a bore about it. It seems that within music, comics etc their is a higher ratio of bores:non bores.
People can be infatuated with a character or a comic series, or be nerds about it, and still live a perfectly normal life. You're almost taking a school yard bully approach to this, rather than a reasoned adult approach. I'm sure you'd look down on a young Tim Burton before he turned his passion for Batman into a movie wouldn't you? Movies are much more credible than COMICS.
I'd never chastise someone for loving something or being a nerd about something because at least they have a passion. Even if I find it boring to hear about certain things, I can still admire someone's passion and if they can find other people to share that passion, more power to them.
I can't believe you'd look down on someone for spending an hour in a shop looking at something that fascinates them when you probably spend more time looking at this forum a day. You're just being an utter cunt, basically, and a bit of a snob yourself.
rape is funny.
And thats the end of that chapter...
A "reasoned adult approach" is exactly what I want from these people. Being a "nerd" isn't a reasoned, adult thing. And I said you can be "passionate" about something moreso than a "nerd" without actually being one. The whole point about being a nerd is that you can't live a "perfectly normal life".
Also, stop using "passion" as a justifying buzz word as if having "passion" for something can never be a bad thing. "Oh so you don't like nerds? You must be PASSIONless! You cold hearted monster!".
prejudice is thrown behind them. Do you think you can just define a nerd? It's entirely subjective and for all you know, people could think of you as one. You're classing people based on your own distaste for them and with a word that is low in meaning, and that's what I'm taking issue with.
I didn't say you're passionless, and in fact insinuated the opposite.
Most of the people you'd call "nerd" in my school have gone on to do very well for themselves and are very intelligent, respectable people who just happen to love comics, or video games, or anything else "nerdy". You act like, by liking something like comics wholeheartedly, it makes them childish. I think your attitudes make you come across as more of a child than they ever did.
It's not like a "coup de grace" to your arguments.
You're really missing the point of what i'm trying to say. Being a "nerd" is inherently bad. "liking something wholeheartedly" is not nerdy, hence not bad. Why would you want to stick up for nerds? I'm not saying that people who like comics are nerds, i'm just saying that there is a distinction between a "nerd" and An Actual Person.
and it's always over comics or superheroes. You use the same dismissive remarks and sneering turn of phrasing and no one ever stands up to you. I think it's time someone did.
You've actually missed my point in that the definition of nerd is so loose (look in any dictionary, it'll be different) that using it can only really show a personal prejudice against someones lifestyle. It's a derogatory term. And I think you're being so unfair towards these people, it's unbelievable.
I know you'll scoff, but wikipedia has the most detailed definition of nerd, so here:
# Nerd is a term often bearing a derogatory connotation or stereotype, that refers to a person who passionately pursues intellectual activities, esoteric knowledge, or other obscure interests that are age inappropriate rather than engaging in more social or popular activities. ...
So what makes these people less than an Actual Person? Just because they don't go to the same parties as you, or get drunk? That's their life choice. They don't do sport, or stay indoors quite a bit. What's so bad about that? They aren't getting in YOUR way.
Most of the people who were called nerds in my school, again, went on to be more successful than the people who called them nerds. They were always hard working, kind and intelligent people who wanted to be left alone to their own devices. You're basically working on a stereotype here and that's as unfair as making jokes about black people, or asians to me. I think you have some growing up to do, basically and even if you can't see it right now, I hope you do by the time you turn 20 or so.
you havn't argued any of my points.
"i'm just saying that there is a distinction between a "nerd" and An Actual Person."
the people you think suck don't suck
look at it this way: when I meet a person I don't think "they are a nerd so they probably love a subject too much", I think "they love a subject too much so they probably are a nerd". I'm not going on stereotypes here, and to say it's akin to racism is stupid, basically.
they inherantly oppose some people's personalities. cos if everyone hated them then bores would never pass on their knowledge, or something.
you don't have a choice as to which ethnicity you're born.
people disliking other people for their interests is a perfectly reasonable thing to do,as their interests usually reflect their personality.
i.e.Obsessive,limited interests and so on
a childish bastard rash
medical diagnosis of your bastard rashism
Nevermind. Next time.
I want to get back into them.
But, more than that, I mostly want all my old 'Age Of Apocalypse' X-Men (etc) comics back. Does anyone know where I can find some?
i do like judge dredd, nikolai dante, the walking dead, y: the last man, savage and warren ellis stuff.
the chris claremont era of xmen is the pinnacle of comics
things like the beano and dandy but i guess that's not what you mean...
i did, however, like reading commando comics.
Daniel Clowes, Scott Pilgrim, Chris Ware, Persepolis etc. I'd like to read Blankets, and someone here mentioned the Great Catsby, which sounds interesting. I've never read any of the Marvel/DC stuff, but might try the Killing Joke having seen The Dark Knight.
I quite liked the Marvel Zombies thing as well.
i'm not really into comics at all but that was fucking brilliant. Everything from the depth of the charachters, such as Rorschach when he gets arrested to the imagery (when Dr Manhattan goes onto Mars) is really beautifully done. The film can in no way be anywhere near as good as the comic. I have very low expectations for it.
I used to get Superman comics when i was 3 or 4 (so about 1988/89)and i used to try and copy the pictures out of them.