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Joe Strummer said I looked like a penguin!"
worst name dropping ever on big brother just then
but a few? such a bell end
psychic abilites. lol i like how they really believe this bullshit.
then she bounced a car four times. psychic energy
when they were trying to lift someone with their "psychic power"...I didn't actually know people were THAT stupid!
once again he seems the only sensilble one
get Luke and fatty out
yeah i bounced a car 4 times, i can only do it sometimes though, not all the time.
this person sounds like a bell.
were a bit overrated IMO
CBS promote the Clash
Ain't for revolution, it's just for cash
i'd rip the ears off of any eprspn who says The Clash are overrated and shove them up thei arse because they really do not desreve them.
I'm coming for your lugholes.
just to clarify
to compliment your mothers skin as an evening gown.
Besides, that dress would be far too big for me ;)
so vastly overrated. For some pointless reason I hate how (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais is meant to be this revered classic song.
There's a good section in that book American Hardcore where he talks about how The Clash came over to play in America and the kids (can't remember which city) went to watch them play, and Joe Strummer kicked his guitar tech in the chest for not bringing his guitar to him fast enough between songs. And they collectively realised what stdiuk rock bullshit they really were. A watershed moment for the scene.
no idea what a stdiuk is
oooh just coz hardcore kids didnt like them i follow that. the clash were fucking excellent, hardcore kids were hardly angels.
so shut it
The Clash were utter toss. Shit reggae-infused punk and (very quickly) bloated stadium rock. Plus, I'd say they were directly responsible for the Manic Street Preachers and Rancid, and for that alone they should be hated.
but their debut and LC are amazing albums and it's your loss if you're too stuck up your arse to realise that.
The Clash are fucking terrible doesn't mean I'm stuck up my own arse! Though obviously I am.
They are shit though, just to clarify.
that comment was based on the way in which you present your opinions.
first two albums, no real reggae infusions, London Calling is a classic album (with limited reggae influence, but influence from all kinds of genres), and they did what 100% of hardcore bands failed to do, and progressed, and did something else interesting beyond 3 chord punk.
By very quickly i presume you mean between the release of the Clash (1977) and Combat Rock (1982)?
Get your facts right, and maybe listen to them, realise none of it is stadium rock, (not even rock the casbah, its just a popular song) and they were directly responsible for a lot that followed, much of which is great.
Saying a shit band that were influenced by them is not a valid arguement.
You might not like them, and thats fair enough, but dont give me all this bullshit about stadium rock. It just makes you look as though you think you are too cool to like popular bands.
Oh and the blood brothers are shit.
blood brothers are not shit :(
i got worked up
and plenty of bands do a similar thing better, but they arent shit.
Calm down dear.
I'd say the s/t is pretty reggae infused, and that Give 'Em Enough Rope (1978), London Calling (1979) and Sandinista! (1980) are all pretty bloated sounding. I have listened to them, I was a fan as a teenager, I've just reviewed my opinion on them over time.
I do like popular bands (Springsteen is pretty big, right?), I just think The Clash are dull and flaccid. And I still hold them wholly responsible for the Manics.
Fair point abou the Blood Brothers though. I used to be proper fanboy for them. Not really into them at all nowadays.
Rather than say "The Clash are shit", can't you just say that you don't like them anymore and thus spare all of or feelings.
views like this on punk bands like the clash, sex pistols, etc. annoy me. The idea of being too cool for certain punk bands and elitism just goes against everything punk should be about.
There is no way the first two albums sound reggae infused, they are straight up punk.
London Calling and Sandinista, yeah they are far more experimental, but Sandinista has a load of filler so i can see the bloated thing (but thats down to how it was recorded and written) but if you cut it down to a single album it would be as revered as London Calling. Its not stadium rock by any stretch of the imagination.
I listen to a lot of hardcore now, but that doesnt mean i get satisfaction from ragging on bands that got me into what i listen to now, influenced the bands i like, and wrote genuinely meaningful, catchy music for 5 years or so.
I just think they're crap. I haven't mentioned the Sex Pistols, but for the record I think they were brilliant.
I think its fine to criticise music you used to like, to realise and accept your own (by which I mean mine, not yours) lack of knowledge and appreciation as you were discovering new music, and how your tastes have changed over time.
theyre just not.
but you are wrong. They arent terrible, not to your taste anymore maybe, but they are not terrible.
the reason there is elitism about certain punk bands is because some of them copied the ramones only with shit political lyrics (sex pistols) some of them turned into boring middle of the road gash (the clash, who i actually kind of like, even though i can also see they are nothing special if that makes sense), and some of them did amazing exciting innovative things X-Ray Spex, The Slits and all the bands that move towards more experimental sounds but had their origins rooted in the punk scene
and then there was The Buzzcocks, who just made the best pop music.
the slits over the clash?
im sorry but thats just so illfounded its not even funny.
sex pistols- nevermind the bollocks is pretty much the defininitive 76/77 punk album, the clash were far more innovative than the other bands you listed.
i like the slits but all they did is make dub influenced post punk, and x ray spex only stood out from the rest because they added a saxophone (as much as i love them)
had witty, satirical lyrics, had a vocalist who was more punk than Sid Vicious or Joe Strummer could ever hope to be
Um, didn't all the Clash do make dub influenced post-punk. sorry?
they made a variety of sutff, and werent limited to one strict formula.
I think you are overstating just how witty and satirical X ray Spex are (as much as i like them). I will accept im wrong if you come up with a set of lyrics by them that match 'Anarchy in the Uk/ God Save the Queen' and 'White riot' that sums up the 1976/77 punk movement.
i think he just lost the discussion.
Just leave him alone will you.
And to think I'm getting all this shit for saying The Clash were cack!
he's absolutely brilliant. Then again "it's your loss if you're too stuck up your arse to realise that", right? ;)
and the clash piss all over him anyway
i cringed into my cup of tea.