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It's really lovely to read an article like this, even if it is preaching to the converted....
have found that asylum seekers put amazing amounts into their local communities because they can't work and so do loads of voluntary work. so loads of groups are setting up schemes to make sure they don't get deported, getting up in the mornings looking for dawn raids, helping with legal battles etc
it's really really heart warming :)
particularly regarding the inefficiences of the system meaning that by the time a decision regarding asylum status has been made, people and families have already settled.
I wouldn't however condone coming up with "signals" to thwart Immigration Officers though. These people are not fascists or the Gestapo and immigration laws have their place in society.
Cases like this suggest some further consideration should be put into them.
You say laws have their place in society and all of a sudden you're the next Mussolini
LET 'EM ALL IN, that's what I say. Well, I don't actually say it, but that message should be clear.
No shit, momo.
I say LET MOST OF THEM IN, BUT DISTRIBUTE THEM ABOUT A BIT.
I'm glad you're leaving.
you absolute megaprickface. I'm not going to talk to any women for you.
to PM you as a leaving present, but I can't find any :(
When that dog hadn't bitten me and you had the Pulp t-shirt so I still had the upper hand?
Good old days.
And the one where your building got hit by lightning and you called me a cunt.
I wasn't cross! Is that still on your profile?
to be a CHILD woken up at 5 am by big angry men, put in a van, sent to a holding centre and then put a plane to a country you hardly know exists.
i see that immigration laws have their uses, but that is really fucking inhumane and there needs to be a more sensitive way of doing things
Best part of the day, is morning.
i might just get someone to tip off immigration that i'm an illegal immigrant so that i never get up late.
the best way to start a day, i'm sure.
up early, deported to zimbabwe. getting taste of other cultures, great!
i'm sure i could appeal and be back in bed in time for them to deport me to somewhere else the next day.
'So Maureen, where are you flying today?'
'I don't know Gladys, but it looks like it could be somewhere near Syria!'
(these kids have old lady names).
i fancy going to tashkent. this could be a cheap way of doing it!
Do you really think that all immigration issues are handled in such an aggressive way though? He don't live in an Orwellian dystopia. Not yet, anyway
I'm surprised someone else didn't beat you to it
With great fondness :D
You heartless bastards.
it made me want to work with or volunteer at an organisation like the ones mentioned there. I find it so sad when people are all 'rah rah rah asylum seekers taking our benefits' without thinking that these are people who've had to leave their homes because terrible things have happened/could happen to them.
as it says in the article, often people are here for several years and need help. I don't believe that all the people who are refused asylum are deliberately fraudulent, sometimes these situations are complicated, and people still need food and housing.
Also, helping criminals isn't perpetuating crime. I'm sure you don't agree with things like prisoner rehabilitation programmes, but I do.
I was talking about. Just the helping people out, community centres and finding people housing and the like.
My last point was a direct response to 'why would you want to perpetuate crime?' Helping criminals with food and shelter doesn't perpetuate crime.
that he missed the point that you wanted to help with volunteer work rather than fugitive asylum seekers.
and having actual feelings and empathy and stuff
basically not being a fucking heartless shitstain of a living creature and giving a fuck about other living creatures, over some (often faulty and fucked up) laws.
that it's an activity worthy of being tagged a 'crime?'
i think we all have a duty when it comes to issues that affect our conscience.
Under Godwin's Law I think you just lost
as to why citizens should take action against laws that they disagree with?
good to know LLB is the judge and jury of us all, i wasn't quite aware of this fact.
Best get used to it, most people manage to live a wholesome life in spite of it
I don't agree with CG for the ledger, I just tire of over use of the Nazi allegory
i do appreciate a proper argument. apologies for being inflammatory, i was only trying to illustrate a point.
that i come from australia, and one of the reasons i was quite happy to leave was our horrific treatment of refugees there. when you see children who have spent 5 years behind barbed wire fences in the desert who are psychologically scarred from their experiences, it's quite hard to believe that attending protests is really doing enough.
by law, obviously, to stay around after you've been denied asylum. But I don't believe it's a crime which hurts others, and I think those people still deserve help.
just hang out and chat? Or extra things?
but like you, I think I'd be better at working on behalf of people, I'd be a bit shy with the chatting, especially to someone older than me.
should you be helping them or not.
what is quite interesting is that CG evidently thinks we have a perfectly functioning immigration system which is in need of no reform...
more than most, but disagreeing with immigration doesnt make someone necessarily evil. this article just helps to confirm that supporting immigration is right, but if it was clear that immigration wasnt working for whatever reason i wouldnt support it, as it is i think people should be free to go where they like more or less.
ill set out a detailed plan of how immigration can work that everyone agrees with shall i?
but am very interested. Hurry!
No it doesn't. It confirms nothing except that "some people believe that supporting immigration is right".
I happen to be someone who believes supporting immigration is right but it's silly to say an article confirms or proves - it merely opines.
'it helps to support the notion that immigration can work, and thus can be supported'