Your are viewing a read-only archive of the old DiS boards. Please hit the Community button above to engage with the DiS !
Complain about it here.
Lot's of shouting at Irishmen.
c'mon police! imprison me without charge/sufficient evidence for 42 days! why not throw in some water-boarding while you're there, eh?
After sitting through hours of debate, I'm not convinced this is a piece of legislation that is essential or especially beneficial.
I didn't hear any solid 'for' arguments but lots of cutting 'againsts' from across the benches.
bit by bit
What Labour bias? The bias is toward right-wing political parties generally and the Tories will always out-right-wing New Labour, even given how fanatically right-wing they are now.
but they'll probably also reduce the limit for abortions because - of course - women should have less choice!
There was a pretty even split in the Commons vote on the matter. Some of the worst offenders were Labour. I'm looking at you, Ruth Kelly. Can't at least one Kelly not be a cunt?
and said he'd try and get it back to 20 weeks. see also: removing the hunting ban. my point was that you can't say "well if you want this one thing changed vote for the opposition" because it's always, always more complicated than that
this passing, or the fact that i may have to vote tory to get it repealed. (not that i believe for a second that they aren't saying that for their own ends)
"Great Charter, literally "Great Paper"), also called Magna Carta Libertatum (Great Charter of Freedoms), is an English charter originally issued in 1215. It required the King to renounce certain rights, respect certain legal procedures and accept that his will could be bound by the law. It explicitly protected certain rights of the King's subjects, whether free or fettered — most notably the writ of habeas corpus, allowing appeal against unlawful imprisonment.
These ancient rights were partially repealed by Gordon Brown's government on 11 June 2008."
will at least maybe slow this down - it's rather sad when you realise you rely on the House of Lords.
Anyway it's pretty shitty that something like this is getting passed, it's just all kinds of wrong in my eyes.
but then I also thought that you could probably just release the individual under suspicion and just tail them until evidence is found. But then I suppose that would use up a whole lot of resources
the tories won't repeal a thing. they'll probably make life worse in many significant areas, but do little to backpedal on damage already done. i hate living in what's ostensibly a one party system.
there is some vague hope for the future in that, give it a few decades of there basically being no politics in politics, and some party from somewhere comes along with *an actual ideology*, it'll be so startling it'll sweep them to power on a wave of mass popularity. just hope it's a good ideology...
because a majority of the country apparently want the police to lock up as many Muslims without charge as possible.
What a surprise they voted for imprisoning people for no good reason
makes it slightly less awful. At least for the first time they seem to be recognising how serious holding someone for 42 days without charge would be. But I'd probably take being in detention for 42 days if it meant I could get £42k. Easy money.
Now I've got to think of a way of making it seem like I'm a huge terrorist but not give them enough to charge me, then reveal on the 42nd day that I was at home all along.
for Zack to recieve in Saved By The Bell for doing something or bribing Mr Belding.