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Glasgow, Inverness or Edinburgh?
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It's not like quaint in a genuinely good way or anything? Just maybe a bit slow-paced?
As a year abroad?
And *obviously* I will not be making my decision based on the DiS forumer's opinions, but it is good for a primer. REAL BRITISH PEOPLE ON BRITAIN! Even real Scottish people on Scotland!
...make it this.
Edinburgh and Glasgow. Maybe Aberdeen. Anything else and you'll probably regret it within a week. Scotland's quite empty, so the smaller cities can be very provincial and dull, and far away from the interesting stuff. Everything's miles away from Inverness, even the rest of Scotland.
but it was quite nice. I would recommend it.
edinburgh is the slightly more stuffy and castley version of glasgow.
glasgow is fucking ace.
glasgow's supposed dangerousness is overplayed a bit though, its not really different from anywhere in england...
Although those weren't the exact words used in the news report.
I think it's mainly gang related though so maybe just don't join any gangs (teams).
edinburgh is mostly made up of rich english students who werent smart enough to get into oxford/cambridge.
If you want to enjoy living in a city then Glasgow. Edinburgh is good too but it's not really Scotland.
countryside in the UK, Exeter, Bath or Bristol would be more convenient.
if she was willing to do a 12 hour drive every time
...even via public transport.
and look around :)
Snowdonia runs it somewhat close I suppose.
It is still thousands of miles away, actually. And, more importantly, it is not Scotland!
But mainly, Inverness & Edinburgh. Glasgow has some great art museums & architecture....charles rennie mackintosh centric....
it's tough, that question.
I'm back fae ma holidays. It doesn't really matter whether you stay in Glasgow or Edinburgh, seeing as they're only an hour apart by rail or road (two days by horse drawn carriage). Anyhoo, Glasgow would be better to live in, Edinburgh is good for visiting.
where did you visit?
Edinburgh = castles and cultural festivals.
with this idea of Glasgow being some sort of cultural wasteland. Edinburgh is small, stagnant and pretentious. Is there really much of a music scene - for want of a better expression - in edinburgh?
glasgow has pretty much everything edinburgh has except 'the festival'.
there is a small 'music scene' in edinburgh, nowt much though...
Just like that.
But then I think there's a heavy bias here towards city living (I know I have such a bias, definitely).
In either of those two there's loads to do, and they're on major transport links for visiting the rest of the country/mainland Europe.
Inverness is pretty, but small and quite empty. And if you get bored of the views of rolling hills and mountains (which I suspect you might) then getting to the visit other places will take a long time. And be expensive. Oh my will it be expensive.
Glasgow = funnier, more characterful, more fun, more down to earth
Glasgow has more REAL CULTURE???
and you can go to glasgow whenever you want for gigs n stuff
I can't tell which way is up or something.
you can make glasgow look like anywhere you want.
view from gibson street overlooking the kelvin and the auction house = normandy. red tenements = new york. sometimes it looks like philly, or rome. just squint your eyes.
I really should go one day.
If you want a really interesting time. Fun people, beuatiful architecture and a good music scene.
Edinburgh's nice too, but I think it can be a wee bit po-faced at times and there are quite a few yah wankers about.
As much it it pains me to say this being a native, don't go to Aberdeen for a year if you're not a student. There's no point unless you want a job in the oil.
Aberdeen more than punches above it's weight music, etc wise, but Glasgow obviously has more going on, being more central/bigger. Edinburgh is a bit shitty for music really, especially being a capital city - it's pretty much just I Fly Spitfires putting on good stuff in the city. www.myspace.com/iflyspitfires - they're ace.
However, Aberdeen is the closest to Stonehaven, which looks the nicest out of all these places. You'd get over that after two days though.
To know Glasgow is bigger and better, although you don’t have to live in one to know which is bigger.
I had a great time in Edinburgh but its small and not as much going on. You would find yourself going to Glasgow most weekends’. If I had to go for one it would be Glasgow.
Glasgow - night out
West Highlands - landscape
in that order.
Make sure you live in Craiglang where Jack and Victor bide. (note almost authentic and convincing use of 'bide')
very charming and pleasant, great place to walk about in as it is very small but also very pretty. Some good pubs but few good clubs and its live music scene is pretty poor.
Glasgow on the other hand is far more vibrant and exciting. Lots of great bars, lots of great music venues loaded with (by and large) very friendly punters. I find Glasgow has buildings and sights to match edinburgh but you just have to look a bit harder.
Of course I am biased as I was born and raised in Glasgow, but I'm right!
go for a night out in both places.
See what suits you better.
I've lived in both, and prefer Edinburgh.
Glasgow is good for going out to gigs etc, but the hassle score is quite high.
They are a lot of try hards there, which makes the music scene better, but can also make you feel a bit annoyed
Edinburgh can be a bit quiet, but you know the places to avoid. They are a lot of yahs here, which means going for a night out/meal makes you wish for an uzi.
and thanks everyone for the opinions, keep them coming if you haven't already done
after college, though
Edinburgh is pretty but Glasgow is where the cool kids are. Actually Glasgow has very pretty places too. (I apparently should know pretty, I'm from Oxford)
But the best bit is the atmosphere right? Live in the West End, then you get the best of both.
obv Edinburgh, but after reading these replies I've changed my mind to Glasgow now.
I'm sure that helps.
Edinburgh for the life expectancy.
it's not really that stabby though, is it? glaswegians/people in the know?
Its like any big city, there's some very dodgy estates but I can't imagine you'd ever end up there.
Glasgow is more fun and has better shops and music scene, but it's not as pretty and i feel like i'm less cool there. Inverness is hideous and awful, but around inverness is so lovely. I was born there.
nobody mentioned poor aberdeen or dundee. dundee is rubbish, but aberdeen can be nice if it's not misty. which is usualy is.
flowerpot. I have fond memories of the place.
Small Glasgow. Dundee is pretty hairy.
high five, etc.
edinburgh has salt 'n' sauce. i still say this is wrong. no i would not like salt 'n' sauce please i would like salt 'n' vinegar thnx.
Raigmore hospital FTW
i even went back there in nov to have my wisdom teeth removed!
do they specialise in wisdom teeth removal?
i heard it had been turned into a carpark but apparently whoever told me lied and it's still alive and kicking
Like a lot of other people have siad, Edinburgh's fun to visit for a few days but is oh so very touristy and you'll get sick of hearing bagpipes playing Highland Cathedral every hour. There are some nice wee shops and pubs though, the great architecture and history cant be denied. But that can only make you happy for so long.
Glasgow does have the music scene really going for it and it rivals edinburgh for culture with Kelvingrove Museum, the Gallery Of Modern Art, the People's Palace etc. Hundreds of shops, both giant company's and nice wee shops run by brilliant people, particularly along Great Western Road and Byres Road. And if you ever need a break from city life there's the seaside at Largs not too far away and the West Highlands and Loch Lomond.
So, Glasgow, yeah?
And for the record, I'm a Fifer (east coast) living in Glasgow. So not really biased.
Do people actually go there for anything other than the marina?!
I've only been once and it was to visit the viking museum. Which turned out to be shut. But it was a nice day out. And loads of folk I know from Glasgow bang on about going to Millport in the summer.
Glasgow then - you'll find yourself travelling to Edinburgh alot less frequently than you'd travel to Glasgow if you stayed in Edinburgh. Plus it's only an hour away, so you can investigate with ease.
Glasgow has better music, better nightlife, (largely) nicer people...it's a pretty vibrant city for being relatively small.
But don't go East...
don't live in the East End of Glasgow. You don't want to get stuck in that web...
for cheaper rent etc. An ex was paying £100 a week for a tiny bedsit which just had a bed, a sink and a desk in central Edinburgh last year. Both cities have their good and bad points but I think Glasgow edges it over Edinburgh for the music scene. Sure, Glasgow has a higher crime rate than New York but it'd only affect you if you were dumb enough to take a flat in a really shitty area, making some contacts who know the city before you moved there would be a way of avoiding this. Edinburgh also has its quota of right dirty bad 'uns but you see less of them in the centre of the city because it's so expensive (£10 for two ice cream cones and two candy floss when visiting last Wednesday) The great thing is that regardless of which you choose you'll still be able to take advantage of the best of both music and cultural wise as they're so close together and the last bus from one to the other at weekends is 3am. An open return is about £6. Forget about Inverness, you'd visit Glasgow and Edinburgh and realise you'd made a big mistake not choosing either of these
so I'd say Glasgow for the cheaper rent, more and better venues with more happening and easy access to Edinburgh for great days out/a change of scenery. Also bands who return to Scotland on a regular basis sometimes stagger the gigs between Glasgow and Edinburgh to give both cities a chance to see them and it makes a nice change to travel through to gigs in Edinburgh every now and then
Get yer ass to Glasgow!
God, I'm good.
Inverness: why? Inverness is nothing but a place to stop on the long trip from the North to Glasgow. There's NOTHING happening in Inverness - nothing! Don't dare live there, you'll be bored out of your skull. They have a "university" there now apparently - the University of the Highlands and Islands Millennium Institute. It's really just a gloryfied college and attracts all sorts of ruffians. Stay away. The night life is shit in Inverness too and it's not really close to anything of interest that you couldn't just day trip to from Edinburgh or Glasgow.
Edinburgh: Edinburgh is a very pretty city - in places. There's this whole perception that it's not as rough as Glasgow but try walking about one of the seedier areas at night and I'm sure you'll find it can be just as stabby. Some nice pubs but the club life is a bit shit from my experience anyway and it's full of English students who couldn't get into Oxbridge. It's snobby, pretentious and full of yahs who think they are better than everyone else. It's not particularly welcoming and the fact I couldn't watch a crucial Scotland World Cup Qualifier ANYWHERE because the England game was being shown tells you all there is to know about how Scottish Edinburgh really is.
Glasgow: It's not the prettiest city in the world but it's not the worst. The West End is a particularly lovely place to live and go out. There are so many amazing pubs and clubs in Glasgow catering for all sorts of music tastes. ANd when you go out it quite easy to stay away from the thuggy riff-raff as the bouncers on the door are quite good and knowing their clientèle - if you want to dance with machete wielding weegie scum you can no problem but there's so many lovely Glaswegians frequenting nice places that are also as cheap as chips that the night life is amazing. There's lots to do in Glasgow too, the music scene is pretty well established with some amazing venues and great local bands. Glasgow IS the place to live. I've lived there for 5 years while at uni and I've never ran into trouble, never been in a fight, never seen someone get stabbed and never had any hassle out. Don't let Glasgows (false) reputation for thuggary and stabbyness put you off, everywhere has rough parts so you just have to avoid them.
I'm pretty biased, but I would say go to Glasgow, live in the West End somewhere. I guess it depends if you want to be a tourist (edinburgh) or live in a great, real city (Glasgow).
Like someone said up above, Glasgow has some pretty awesome architecture, you just have to look a bit harder than in Edinburgh.
Something I don't anyone's mentioned yet is the weather difference.
Traditionally Glasgow is 'warm and wet' and Edinburgh is 'cold and dry', so it depends what you'd prefer, although to be honest the whole of Scotland is pretty wet AND cold.
I'm surprised everyone has been so harsh on Inverness, I have very fond memories of the town, although I would agree that's its a bit small and remote. I would definitely recommend a trip to the area while you're there.
it's not as much of choice as you might think; this place is pretty small. What makes it more so is that Edinburgh and 'weedge are connected by the biggest road we have. Bus/rail connections are as good as it gets for the UK.
Glasgow is not as hard as some would have you believe.....its smiles better than it was back in the days ;). And you'd soon work out where not to go. Its easy to say its a more 'real' place too as Edinburgh is Massive on tourism. People I know claim they don't feel at home for half the year. Don't get me wrong Glasgow has plenty of culture, it just doesnt have a postcard castle sitting on top of it making it obvious.
Edinburgh is Pretty but and has proper history. The festival and Tattoo and things are unique events that you have to sample.
Live in Glasgow and daytrip to Edinburgh during the summer...with an umbrella and wellies and snow shoes basically.
and if anyone else has something to add still, please don't be shy.
Hmm, well obviously I am still not going to decide based on an internet thread; I am going to visit the cities first at some point, but if I *had* to pick based on this thread, I'd be leaning heavily towards Glasgow. And originally I was leaning towards Edingburgh, because of the cities' respective reputations and because Edinburgh's so pretty and I could definitely see myself walking about in it. But yeah, Glasgow if I had to pick based on this thread.
edunburgh is fucking immense and I try to make it through as often as possible.
Edinburgh is full of tourists and the people that actually live there (no offence to anyone here who does) can be really stuck up. Glasgow is a much more genuine place, it's got some really nice bits and there is always stuff on. All the best gigs and events are in Glasgow. It is definetly the best choice.
I'm getting all sad now, I'm moving to Dundee in the summer. I'll probbly be back in Glasgow all the time anyway, and not just to see friends, it really is a brilliant city to spend time in.
I think I've become a walking advert for Glasgow..
Glasgow is cheaper too.
I moved to Aberdeen last year so I feel your pain. :(
Well, more excited about being at art school and getting the chance for a fresh start, meeting new people and all that, as opposed to being excited by the city itself...
I'm going by the amount of "what you looking at, you're getting stabbed" I got last night, it was three, whilst walking 5 mins down from the abc for the 10 o clock train to Edinburgh.
This whole Glasgow hardman thing seems to be alive and well in the mind of the wandering ned.
I fucking hate those pricks. In saying that I haven't had the whole 'what you looking at' pish in an awful long time.
Still, round them up and gas them!
Edinburgh because I will live there from september.
Seriously both places would be like the best city in the world if you could somehow combine the two...
OWAIT! YOU CAN GET A TRAIN IN 40 MINUTES! IT'S POSSIBLE!
and home neighborhood in one.
and it does make a difference; each would make for a totally different life because it would make for a different home and neighborhood
but the point is you can enjoy the benefits of each. If you want less chance of stabbing but with less stuff to do, live in edinburgh. If vice versa, choose glasgow.
i think i might move there
cause i thought you were saying it wasn't really something that would make too much difference
I mean, it's really good and all but I think it's one of those places you have to grow up in to really like.
Thing about glasgow is that there really is a sense of tenement/slum spirit. OBV the slums were demolished 70 years ago, but then people were all moved into high rises. Glaswegians obviously know how to have a good time and are "well arty" and all that, but i feel a real sense of isolation and all that. Could just be me though. There isn't really a central area for anything except a few places in town, and the west end is really the best place to live, pretty much because everywhere else, bar a few places, is either bordering on or IS a high rise estate. They're dotted all round the outskirts and it's not very nice.
So would you suggest Edinburgh for that reason then? Since apparently it has lots of expats happily residing there already, as evidence.
There's the tiny old bit in the middle then pretty posh suburbs just around it, then the usual crap places for miles. The flats in edinburgh are pretty nice though, which is where i'd imagine you'd want to stay. The equivalent of that in glasgow is the west end, which is properly brilliant. Being a middle class prick myself, i live there and honestly it's brilliant. There's about a million coffee shops, vegan resteraunts, nice places to get food, a few music shops, underground into the centre of town (which is brilliant by the way; edinburgh people mock us for our love of our underground but it's really brilliant. £2 for a return to pretty much ANYWHERE in the city.).
So yeah, glasgow west end or edinburgh centre, roundabout The Meadows as it's called. I guess that'd be your best bet.
the west end is getting kind of edinburghyish. anyways the east end is where the shit kicked off - we've got a marble arch and a nelsons coulomb... there are good pubs and shops round trongate - and a prison tower!
have to say my fav thing in edinburgh to is to spit of the heart of the ol prison out side st giles.
but not for many fun reasons. edinburgh has most of the national fiscal HQs and it's the capital, so a lot of a loada fuddyduddies live/commute/visit there. a lot of people go there, simply because they haven't heard of anywhere else. moreover edinburgh's infrastructure is essentially entwined with england's - it's the end of the line on the major rail networks - making it easier for southerners to become exposed to it.
glasgow is pretty isolated in a way from all around, and so you get a lot of people inc. other scots just making assumptions about it - it hard and violent (which is balls, i can't remember the last time i felt unsafe or intimidated from someone off the street).
basically Glasgow is the California of Scotland.
and yeah, i can think of very few instances where i've felt unsafe in any city, so i'm willing to bet this will be no different.
and live there for a year at least, and if I do it will be after college. Some people even read the threads they're posting in to find these things out. ;)
I'm living in the hyperreal now.
am i having a brain fart or are you stretching for that one? if it's the latter, you need to stop doing that! you are making me doubt myself.
you can say it.