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This thread, and it's slow number of responses, has me wondering.
and there are less women who are widely considered to be notable by those who influence such matters (academics, journalists, historians etc.) who are in turn predominantly male. It's a historical effect though and I'm sure is gradually correcting
- in the main, still pretty old school, old boy's network industries though, no? None of whom are prepared to give up ground to women who are actually worthy? I'm not in man-hating mode, I just find it a little curious.
I've worked for some utter cowbags in the past though... it just seems that's more widely publicised if you're female. For example, the Devil Wears Prada. I worked for a woman just like her, but I doubt VERY much that a film would've been made about it if the culprit were male!
I was recommended the book by someone else who had also worked for her; I kept getting cold shivers when reading it. 50% of it WAS her! She were a monster.
necessarily, if you go by models, pop stars, actresses, WAGs and what not.
not it girls
everyone saw my answer and thought: "yeah, MelesMeles states a pretty much insurmountable case," and then just gave their own opinions or desire to respond up?
on page three, what are you talking about?!
If I named the top ten 'greatest' people of all time, it's highly unlikely (without being deliberately tokenistic) that I'd think of a woman to put in there.
Historically world leaders, scientists etc. have tended to be male and the majority of major discoveries and innovations have been brought about by men (most likely as they've had the opportunities)
Thing is that I imagine most 'great' acts tend not to be recognised until there's some historical context (any major invention, for example, will tend to take a a number of years before it's in widespread use and then a number of years after that until it's recognised how important it is. And as women have only had anything like equal opportunities for a limited number of years then it's still possibly too soon for many women to be recognised as 'great'.
Furthermore I think we're still at a point when women are limited to some degree in their choices and ability to express themselves in so far as that any woman achieving in a particular field will be seen as a woman achieving first and an individual second, whereas it's the opposite for men. So, for example, in music I think there's more unconscious pressure for women to subscribe to certain expectations and make music in certain genres than there is for men.
I don't hate both genders...