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(shakes head sadly)
piece of news footage was a couple of years back after the brawls that broke out between the 'locals' and I think it was the algerian community had a big fat fuck in a corkhat and a wifebeater with hairy shoulders leaning into a camera shouting "this is our laaand, GIT AAAHHHT!"
as bad as the hairy shoulder guy. Apologies.
under an Ozzie jackboot
He apologises for something that he played no part in due to the fact that it all took place long before his birth and people are angry at him.
Then the leader of the opposition was being a total tool and that got people angry.
Kevin Rudd made the apology, while Brendan Nelson's comments are seen as a criticism or undermining of it.
when I was briefly there and working people playing the theme to Romper Stomper on the stereo and going up to the Chinese guy and saying "choppy choppy or sacky sacky"
Shame when that place got robbed and burnt down. the sheer irony.
"Our generation does not own these actions, nor should it feel guilt for what was done in many, but certainly not all cases, with the best intentions."
Whatever the intentions your generation could prove how could it is by helping to right some of the wrongs it caused. Or does that sound too much like hard work?
he's talking about a policy that was in force until 1969.
that so many 'ordinary' people had such a negative reaction to him? I found that story quite heartening - that it wasn't just a top down thing, but that the 'average' person in Australia believed in what Rudd said too
im confused tho - wouldnt you expect the liberal guy to back it up?
was he just doing the standard opposition points scoring thing by contradicting the government?
a TOTAL TOOL!
so their point of view was one of trying to explain away why they wouldn't have apologised?
Either that or they know who votes with them and were appeasing them?
that Brendan Nelson caved into pressure from the ultra conservative members of the Liberal/National parties, and that's why the more offensive aspects of his speech were in there.
Or you could just argue that he is a dumb c*nt and made the worst mistake of his life.
Shoulda seen him visibly flinch when Rudd - unannounced - asked Nelson to join the government in a bi-partisan action to tackle indigenous issues TOGETHER and put any sniping and bullshit aside for once. bwhahahahah
Maybe he's just a wanker
Anyway, it doesn't seem like his remarks were very popular, and I have to say I do agree with what he said about the modern generation not owning the guilt. We aren't reponsible for what our ancestors or compatriots have done, and I think ideas to the contrary have been the cause of a great deal of suffering throughout history.
please be clear - the apology was on behalf of the Australian Parliament and Australian Governments who enacted these laws and actions in the past.
Whether 22 year olds feel guilty or not is not the point. It's not about feeling guilty, it's about acknowledging past historical wrongs, and making a new, positive start towards an inclusive, respectful relationship with our indigenous people. It's about focussing on the future, not the past. Other countries - Canada, South Africa etc - have made formal apologies to native people. It's not that controversial.
not that hard to understand, is it?
The british government should be apologising too. It's disgusting to read some of the things done in the name of progress.
You should feel guilty, you have benefited from the brutality and ignorance of your forefathers.
I'm not saying we shouldn't try and right past wrongs by helping people who have been screwed over in the past, but am I guilty for what happened to their ancestors? No way, not one bit.
the native americans and antive australians didn't practice genocide so that their country's economy can continue to function.
If you don't feel guilty, you should atleast address your ignorance.
I would be surprised if there haven't plenty of examples of genocide or at least ethnic cleansing in pre-colonial america.
if to is "the government" apologising, so I would be OK with that I suppose. Especially since it was only 40 odd years ago.
I was responding to a specific quote in an article about a complicated situation in a a foreign country - there's no need to be condescending.
"Individual Australians are not responsible and should not feel guilty. ‘Sorry’ does not have to
be an expression of shame or guilt. It can be an expression of empathy, as in ‘I’m sorry to
hear your friend died’ or ‘I’m sorry you got hurt in that car accident’. If people are still
confused on this front, they might recall that several years ago, John Howard apologised on
behalf on the nation to Vietnam Veterans for their poor treatment when they returned from
John Howard was "Liberal" - its the centre right party there
but the people who turned out for the apology/broadcasts were supporters anyway. it's pretty telling when you look at any articles written about it, and all the negative comments that people make about the apology at the foot.
for their hostile takeover back in the 11th century.
this is serious stuff. you're just embarrassing yourself by showing crude ignorance of something really important.
btw - are there any Aboriginal skulls and bones left in the British Museum, or did the English finally allow them to have a dignified burial back in Australia?
who used them to decorate a drum riser.
and now i'm going to hell
they should apologise.
I won't say sorry to the one who tried to fight me last night, before I pointed out that he would DIE, if he tried anything.
I need to get used to this time zone, so I'm not on the internet at like 4 in the morning
does this make them more or less racist than the Spaniards?
and heckle caucasian drivers during the GP.