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GET OVER IT! IT'S JUST A COFFEE SHOP!
very much seconded, but that is about the only decent tasting thing they sell.
I had a coffee there once and it was undrinkable, absolutely horrible it was! gimme greasy spoon anyday.
smash da sistem
you have to get about 3 extra shots in it for it to even have caffeine!
Rage Against The Latrine.
back in 1995.
am i a corperate cocksucker?
full of pretty polish girls working there and subsidised prices. No complaints, but bloody annoying when going to a "real" one and paying full price...
But i'll probably end up getting a job there soon enough. It'll probably be between that and a supermarket, and i'll be fucked if i'm working at a supermarket again.
to continue working on Fruit and Veg in Waitrose, was a bad day.
on the other hand I adore Caffe Nero.
I also despise anyone who despises coffee chains, and goes on constantly about independent places blah blah blah. 19/20 independent places serve bad coffee and/or are unhygenic. Just because something is independent doesn't give it automatic worth. Urgh.
I despise anyone who despises anyone who despises coffee chains. It's such a bullshit, unproductive thing to do. To constantly be cynical about anybody's attempt at living a less consumeristic lifestyle. The fact is, Starbucks IS a horrible chain. They exploit local business and are generally just completely unsympathetic, and thats just in their business practice.
And their coffee is shit.
The rest I disagree with and/or agree with, but don't have a problem with. Starbucks is still probably better than say, 17/20 independent coffee chains. Most of the independent places that go down are horrible anyhow, there are numerous that survive because they offer an alternative that people like, but that probably applies only to a small number. Plus, there are hardly many independent coffee shops anyway - and never have been many. Sure, they don't have the nicest business practices, but there aren't exactly many companies that have especially 'nice' ones.
truth. there's a really nice little indepedent place near me that does well because it offers something different.
"To constantly be cynical about anybody's attempt at living a less consumeristic lifestyle."
giggle. OH JOSH.
It happens all the time. If anyone does something anti-status quo, people definitely go "RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE LOLOLOL YEAH HAHA YOU THINK YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE BUT YOU CAN'T".
It's completely fucking retroactive and crap.
if you REALLY wanted to make a difference, you'd make your own coffee. as opposed to buying it from an entirely different set of scumbuckets.
So maybe I should just harvest and process the beans myself? Maybe I should grow some cotton and make ma'sel' a pair of jeans?
I'm not saying people should live like in The Good Life or whatever that show was called, but just do SOMETHING that you think can make a little difference.
And FYI, there are loads of good independent coffee shops where I live. The idea that good coffee is hard to find at places other than chains is bullshit. You can make good coffee pretty easily.
makes you any less "consumerist" is also bullshit.
But most that are good serve different purposes to the coffee chains. If I want to just have a coffee, not spend too long somewhere etc, I'll go to a chain. I know exactly what I'm getting, exactly how much it is, it's clean and efficient etc. It's the perfect place to get something for take-out or a quick coffee in.
If I want to get a coffee and I'm with someone, want to spend some time, have a chat etc then I go to an independent place - it's a different atmosphere and serves a different purpose. But as far as independent places that serve more or less the same purpose as the chains go, they're nearly always poorer.
specifically is that the independent (and brilliant) cafes and shops in my street are being forced out because they can't afford the rental costs that places like starbucks throw at the council. For example, in my street, which already has at least 5 independent cafes in the immediate vicinity, they managed to sneak into a clothing shop without asking residents or shop-owners for permission to change the use of the premises to a cafe. The council didn't care because they were obviously healthily paid. The rates for everybody else have now risen because they know that they could swamp the area with these money-chugging companies now that Starbucks has started the invasion. Small rant over. Sorry.
p.s. There are at least 5 other starbucks within a half mile perimeter
Starbucks buy out many more branches than they need, monopolise the area and, then close down most of those branches once they have a firm hold on the area and have forced out competition.
of course, it's ignoring the fact that a lot of their branches are franchises rather than directly-owned ones.
franchises bunk on that theory, as they're not owned by the company but are independent businesses, and they're hardly likely to run at a loss.
I was told it by someone who (unlike myself) was relatively well informed on the subject. I'm sure it'll be on the internet somewhere.
i always go to nero.
NERO 4 LYFE
loyalty card things. when mine is full, i get a large. woo!
it's one of those people you know will double-stamp your card if you smile nicely. My record is a quadruple. But I think it was more that he was just really, really bored.
He was pretty and Italian.
that is all
totally wins <3