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Examples of bad architecture that really gets you goat, with links if possible please.
Cute night my ass.
But I used to love the pink elephant when I was a kid.
Is the elephant still there?
in Melbourne... complete with concrete front yard and gravel. GROSS.
inside must be great but outside not so much - http://www.simonho.org/images/London/London_BritishLibrary.jpg
But then Britain suits having these very naff buildings amongst the beautiful, sensible stuff.
where would we (and by 'we' I mean 'Chris Cunningham') have to do dystopian electronica videos? WHERE?
don't be so exploitative.
My humble additions:
Tower 42 (formerly the NatWest tower)
The place is amazing. It's what 1950s industrialists thought future utopia would look like. They were wrong, but they made a great hash of it anyway. I fucking love the place, wish I could live there.
I can't imagine look out of my window on an overcast, rainy winter's morning only to see masses and masses of brown industrial concrete.
I really, really hate the place. Even when they try to pretty it up with plant pot displays, it still fails massively.
are absolutely stunning.
I adore massive concrete buildings. SO MUCH.
Brutalist architecture = love.
It's actually kind of ugly. Very functional but ugly.
in Guildford. Just tried googling it, can only find pictures of its entrances, and there's a good reason for that. It's a fucking brown-bricked blight on god's green Surrey.
I agree. The Friary is manky.
wait till match day, seal up the exits and fling it into the abyss.
Save my house as well though!
Mine is in Middle England district a.k.a. Abbey Meads.
Go sit at the top of Greenwich park as the sun is going down. It's bootiful.
THUS IT'S, LIKE, HORRIBLE AND STUFF!
just London's the worst offender.
Who wouldn't love the dreary grey towering blocks that appear everywhere you look...
Nothing else as far as they eye can see. At all. Nothing. Nada.
You're a double momo. An ubermomo. Super slo momo.
or deformed block.
the Post Office Tower? The London Eye? The Gherkin?
I don't like the other two
the churches can stay. Well the church buildings anyhow.
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but just aboyt everything built in the 1970s sucked as well.
i think i'd allow ten things to stay.
WHY? What can this possibly do for nottingham?
(that isn't a castle or church or stately home)
there's only a few buildings taller than that in the city centre (and I wouldn't object to any of them being knocked down)
...maybe the limit needs to be raised to four floors. but no higher.
such a limit would neccessitate more sprawl. do you like sprawl?
there's plenty of dull green fields in the south that are sitting around doing nothing other than letting nearby people think that a few green paddocks and an oak tree is 'the countryside'.
it's so unique. x
I think not.
maybe take away the south-west, which has a fair few good points, but all those counties around London, that's what they look like. It's all tame and dull.
I mean it's completely different to say North Yorks/Cumbria... even the south west. It's just very boring looking...
including the cellar. Good times. ERADICATE DERBYSHIRE.
...they don't make the building any taller, do they?
in Manchester. The adjacent 'redevelopment' of Piccadilly Gardens runs it close, but the Plaza is a disgusting, grimy, grey shit-tip.
They've talked about doing it up for years but I don't see anyone could possibly make it not ugly. Best to bulldoze the dump and pretend it never happened.
for those fortunate enough never to have seen it:
That looks like Basingstoke.
Yeah - most of Basingstoke can go, too.
What about Cathedrals? Are they not allowed. St. Paul's is pretty damn cool...
Can abbeys stay?
You're a nutter.
or anything remotely church-like
by me not liking city-type buildings.........?
to life in its entirety not whether you approve of something or not.
I just tend to either like something a lot, or hate it a lot.
they and their architecture and people failed you. Never mind.
pretty much... yeah.
I kinda like the idea of living somewhere where you can see the sky, and stand still with out being trampled over, and not get stabbed or shot. Madness, hey?
WHY CAN'T I JUST LEAVE THINGS ALONE GRRRAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHHH
surely you can't disagree with that? it's fact....
So many that just this very morn I had to step over three definitely dead bodies and one who was clearly on the way out. I booted him in the chops to put him out of his misery.
Your attitude to London is so 'OMG it's like a whole other world why would anyone want to live there i hear people don't even speak to each other and once a friend of a friend went to london and totally couldn't get off a tube train for a week and died of malnutrition and no-one noticed and now his ghost haunts the tubes and if you go you will die of ghost stuff and YOU CAN'T EVEN BREATHE!!!!'
I really am leaving this thread now. Good day.
Not sheltered and paranoid little you, nope. I'M THE SILLY ONE.
that I read that whole post out loud in a comedy West Country accent?
to the number of people who live in London. It's a tiny tiny tiny percentage.
If you mean the entire rest of the world then it's comparatively safe.
If you mean a field in the middle of nowhere then I'd grant you that will have a lot less violent crime.
generalisation - check
I prefer not to live in a pocket of the country set up as a utopia in my head with no desire to see anything else of what is a massive world and a large country. I guess i'm silly to look at various cities and towns in England and see anything i find beautiful rather than condemn it all to the fire because it doesn't fit in with my view of acceptable.
There are crappy areas and nooks and crannies of all places and conversely there are lovely ones. I happen to like a mix of both.
travel is the main thing I want to do in my life. But I don't like nearly every major city that I've been to. I'd say Prague is the only largeish city I've been to and liked.
I love where I live (in vague terms, the very specific area is one of the worst in york, but still nice enough), and I don't think I'd certainly like to live in North Yorks in the future. But I want to see the world and other places - I'd even like to see some of the major cities, just for experience, even if it turns out I don't like them.
And there are other cities in England that I like - Cambridge, for example.
you have a strange fear of cities - accepted, you don't like them much - accepted
but they are all hideous and have nothing of merit within their walls and no redeeming qualities? people get stabbed every day, more than one person brushes past you in a confined space. The churches don't have stained glass so therefore aren't real churches (insert pic of cathedral in York that is so far far superior) right?
I believe you have set york up as some utopia and nowhere can compete in your head. When people say otherwise you think they're overreacting. No it's just some people appreciate good and bad points of places in britain and wouldn't willingly condemn whole areas of the country to the scrapheap based on a few meagre visits.
i've said i like cambridge and norwich and oxford and several other cities are just fine, and if i'd grown up there then they'd probably be the same as how york is for me. and i'd love to go to buenos aires and santiago. but i really don't like london/manchester etc in any way at all, and i'm not going to pretend to just to appear 'open minded' or whatever
but it is narrow minded because i get the sense that you write things off without looking at them properly. That church i posted up isn't a real one because there's no stained glass etc etc etc? Um ok....yeah. Didn't know churches and beauty came in one neat, prescribed package. All those cities you describe are semi rural though. Oxford surrounded by beautiful countryside as is Norwich etc etc so i'm in doubt as to whether you like any city really or would want to live in one and sure that's fine but some of us like and will defend cities. Despite it being all i've known i also like the countryside, shock horror.
I can do the first of those very easily, and the last three have never happened to me or anyone I know.
Shootings and stabbings happen to a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of people when you think about how big the population of a city is. And often they're restricted to specific areas of that city, and to specific groups of people (eg gangs). The chances of you wandering round London and being stabbed or shot are ridiculously small. And the idea of actually getting trampled over is so stupid it makes my head hurt.
if you stand still on a main street in London or a tube station or something you get like a million people walking straight into you. I mean, on that main road, I forget what it's called they have a road right in the middle and pavement on either side. What the hell is with that?
I'm going to cry.
because I just ripped out my own eyes in sheer desperation at this whole thing.
you're making this up!
but how can I get to it on the tube without being trampled by a MILLION people?
why would you have a road that's used during the day on the central shopping street? it makes no sense at all....
And if so, perhaps you should read around the subject. You know, consider that others have probably considered this many times.
Bear in mind that it's VERY VERY VERY long and that if you had no buses or taxis going down it then old people or those who have difficulty walking would basically never be able to visit any shops midway down it.
And the fact that the shops themselves might have some difficulty re-stocking.
they could've done it through several joining streets like most other town centres....
Oh wait, no, it's been like this for 100s.
Your sort of mind is the reason why Manchester has to live with that ugly fucker called the Arndale centre, you know?
I'm pointing out there are clearly obvious reasons why it hasn't been.
Chances are there are even more reasons we don't know about, like the total effect it would have on traffic through London.
Can you explain how that's not the rest of the world.
Here's a point though:
If you just stand in the middle of people moving from one place to another, they bump into you. If you stand still in a corner or against a wall that's not busy, they don't.
without fearing for my life. and London people probably aren't likely to stop and help people who are dying, or at least in serious pain.
"Burn this place to the ground! Burn it to the ground!"
Personally I'd just accuse you of being rude, as I would anyone who just stopped in the middle of the road without thinking about those who might be behind them.
where there are a million people right behind you and in front of you making it impossible to think and see and breathe?
when you're walking into ewood park through the cramped turnstiles every week.
yeah, also, don't go.
my live football extends to york city once in a while.
that makes such obvious sense.
No denying there is a problem in London but don't take your cue from the tabloids and assume that everyone carries a knife and you're only one street away from a stabbing. How scared must you be of the U.S?!
I take my cue from statistics. And I probably would be scared in most US cities, sure.
both of which are barely more passable than London....
We have CRAINE! and lots of cranes.
york has a viking museum that smells of shit.
if so: OMGZLOL [what the fuck?]
The swing thing! It moved!!!! IT NEARLY KILLED ME! I WAS TRAMPLED BY A MILLION CHILDREN!
I can't think of anything I'd rather do than walk through the city centre and night alone....
they rob more people per 10,000 than anyone else. Good work guys!
Met Police: 181,830 from a population of 7,509,000 - a total of 0.024 offences per person.
North Yorks Police: 10,087 from a population of 187,000 - a total of 0.054 offences per person.
Thus: London is officially safer to live in than North Yorkshire.
Good day to you.
that can't be right? seeing as i've never known anyone who's been the victim of violent crime in york, and violent crime levels outside of york can hardly be huge. i can't open the spreadsheet on my computer, but that doesn't make any sense at all. even if you factor in that there'll be a higher reporting rate. wait... the maths doesn't even make sense either....
you: Being massively irrational.
everyone: what the hell? you're insane?
you: I have stats to prove i'm not insane.
bamos: stats plz?
everyone: stats prove you're insane.
you: the stats are wrong!
seeing as there cannot possibly be more violent crime per person in north yorkshire than london.
there are LOTS of people in london.
Because as far as I can see from that spreadsheet you'll see twice as many in London.
i've never seen anyone get hit or anything. i've never seen a weapon. i've seen some kids cutting through someone's bike lock once, that was about the worst of it.
Because yeah, I've seen someone beaten up a couple of times maybe? I'm trying to think...
We were burgled once...
You see how just because this is what it says, doesn't mean it translates into the real world as pat as you think.
have you walked up towards spitalfields and spied it up the road? It really is great. It's not your idea of a church but it was one before you and will be after.
the one in east london near spitalfields. I love it.
pocketmouse - yep a church and i'm sure the people who use it like it. There are loads of great buildings in London, may not be rural somerset or some other supposed idyll but seeing beautiful buildings moored in the middle of cities is something people appreciate when a lot of where they live is a concrete mess.
Is that near London or Cornwall? I forget...
I've just not seen a church like it before, and I don't think it's very nice looking. I'm sure the people who use it can cope with me thinking that....
i they're the same style of architecture.... there's not a single similarity there.
That is surely a Cathedral?
But seeing as that is gothic, I don't see how the other thing can be gothic, regardless of cathedral/church status.
they do every day and have done since before you existed.
It is a lovely church both in the photo and in actuality. I don't expect you to like it and i realise you dislike cities but from my p.o.v it's just one of the buildings in London, modern or not that is pretty special.
It's fucking disgusting.
I'd also put all houses built in cul-de-sacs during the late 1980s in there. I used to live in one and it was rubbish.
Also, all buildings that aren't modernist concrete blocks just to annoy pocketmouse.
Big black monolith on the top of the hill. You just know that like the building in Ghostbusters the architect was some twisted mystic and it's been designed as the calling point for the evil one when the apocalypse goes down.
it's one of those obelisks from 2001.
i love that tower. it's such a terrible idea, and the whole plaza is so badly thought out (look at all the abandoned shops at the rear) and it creates huge gusts of wind, but DAMN is it imposing. and i really like that about it.
Can you find a pic pls?
But all the shots are from that angle. You really need to walk up from Holloway towards it to get the full effect.
"supposedly used for social security". Jesus, Wikipedia's full of enough fanciful stuff but a stone cold fact is treated with uncertainty! :D
The Spinnaker tower. What a literally monumental waste of money. cost the local taxpayers something like a tenner each.
This building makes me so angry. It just sums up so many things I hate.
I've just been trying to find a picture of the BT Exchange. Total fucking eyesore.
but I couldn't find one anywhere. Unfortunately it still exists as i'm sat in the dump right now..
Eyesore is not the word.
I can't stop looking at it.
when you arrive at the train station, DON'T TURN AROUND!
I like all of these:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/t.green/crucible.gif (crucible theatre)
http://tinyurl.com/ytjrfo (arts tower)
http://tinyurl.com/yugxbp (town hall)
http://tinyurl.com/ytg63s (roxy nightclub)
<3 The Roxy. My mates went there for some reason and Les Battersby off of Corrie tried to start a fight with them.
they are going to sell so much carling I can foresee water shortages :D
The worst thing this university's ever done....apart from not electing Boris Johnson as rector...hehehehe
In it's entirity. Don't argue.
have you ever sat in the cafe at the top and watched your coffee move in high winds? it's a fun experience.
would like to get that first before they dove in?
Straight to the desk, it seems...
why did i do a degree, could have just sat on dis for three years learning. I already know i've moved to the English equivalent of the Bronx and vikram doesn't do dinner. Good times.
during a three line whip thingie, or whatever the old pervs call their 'special time'
I dont actually mind the building, its actually rather fine
You'll be stabbed before you know it!!11!!!
[plz make sure I don't get turned away]
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hmm. i beg to differ.
no one mentions Brum's genuinely awful Central Library?
Brutalism shite in its purest form.
That's all there is to say.
Christ almighty, what a waste of time and money and atmosphere. Still, it looks like something found on Mars from a lost civilisation of ugly architects.
Surely one of the worst decisions ever?
I hope whoever was behind that got a severe bollocking/death.
x10000 better that the atrocity I posted earlier.
A blot on an otherwise pretty drab landscape and they look pretty unhealthy as well..
They're ace. I love massive towers. They mesmerise me every time I drive past.
Here's the link I forgot to put in my original post:)
in a strange way that i can't really put my finger on.
I knew they're NOT really, but they do have a strange something that I love whenever I go past them. Maybe it's phallic.