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Gotta love it.
a drugs thread.
If that was sarcasm.
tell me all about every crazy drug fuelled party you've ever been to and how mental they all were.
when we can just read about them on DiS.....
I'd imagine reading about the above-mentioned parties is a lot like watching porn.
i.e. not half as much fun as actually doing it yourself.
there are films of women and horses.
I can't imagine them being all that happy afterwards.
MDMA ME UP.
i like being free
Surely theres only so much you can discuss before you look like you wish you were in skins?
I swear it just turns people into complete and utter cunts. I shall possibly loose friends over its useage. Damn my stance on such things.
AWESOME! i lost my phone, bank card and £50 odd quid - on the plus side, i did wake up in a field miles away from home .... wait, hang on ....
dear god. anyone got a rope?
I've developed a serious hot chocolate habit.
aero hot chocolate. with squirty cream.
i want this so bad now
MDMA hasnt got any proven sientific evidence that it causes any sort of long term damage. The main danger is from heatsroke, but its possible to prevent that... short term depression may occur from heavy sessions due to a chemichal imbalance due to whats released during a dose, it scored just above Poppers in the BBC drug harm chart and below marijouna.
A Standard ectasy pill is less the 1% of the RD-50 (the dose required to kill 50% of rats or mice that took it)
my faviroute drug, the loved up feeling can not be substituted, violence is very hard to come by on iy
the pills are often cut with other things your more likely to get harm from the 'Speed' 'DXM' (which is found in cough syrup) and Caffiene its cut with.
If its crystal is pure, stronger and much safer
its more about people going on about taking drugs when it is largely not very interesting, especially for people who dont take drugs and cant relate.
personally i have no problem with people on here taking drugs, but i dont really feel the need to discuss what i do and dont do. Its boring for everyone, and nothing to boast about. 'hey everyone look how im breathing! im fun me!'
it is dull, that why I just got all my points out there in one post.
it also reminds you how rubbish the drug laws are when you realise stuff in cough medicine, alcohol and asprin is far worse for you.
and intelligent discussion on drugs is fine by me, but when its basically just an excuse to say 'i take drugs, arent i fun?' its just annoying.
FUCK THE SYSTEM!
totally rad, man
and i was breathing so much. was really fun.
suck on that losers
its called gurnng!
Whenever u do this heavy breathing shit your whole face is going mad!
OMG once I was so wasted on MDMA I kissed like 10 people in a row and we hugged each other all night & music seemed to slow down and speed up and WOW!
in retrospect, MDMA can seem dull but u feel soo good that its worth it. At the end of the day you are you but more open, warm, loving but you dont do too much silly stuff.
You just end up sitting, stroking people or hugging them or in a comfortable spot BREATHING... still worth it
youve still missed the point :P
no one wants to end up like disco stu, do they?!
That MDMA is less damaging to health that Cannabis! Imagine if you took MDMA every day!? You'd be in a mental home within two months.
if you constantly took it, but the is no direct link between mental health and MDMA.
but how many people have ever eaten lettuce, or been in the vicinity of pigs than have taken mdma?
people talking about how many drugs they've taken/THE UTTER MADNESS AND BARE LOLZ they had whilst on drugs is really boring.
really, really boring.
ANY recorded deaths from Cannabis!? If so, I'm sure there are less than from E.
Cannabis or tobacco?
the nicotiene in the tobacco does, in fact THC has evidence that it offsets cancer by casuing faulty cells to destroy themselves, nicotiene does the opposite and disables this.
Cannabis can cause lots of respertory problems if smoked though and it DOES kill brain cells.
Alcohol is the most expensive addiction possible and is one of the most dangerous drugs in the world, even if it is waterd down.... if it was pure people would die non stop, pure MDMA rareley kills.
It's actually debatable whether more people have died from E/MDMA or Cannabis if we take the tobacco out of the equation.
what about celebrities who have outrageous coke habits. They seem to be able to take the shit everyday and come out the other side reasonably normal
but the comedown from ecstacy and MDMA is WAY worse than coke...we're talking at least two to three days of feeling like death for most people.
and I know from experiance that is the is only so much u can top up before you get fed up, unlike coke and alcohol where a top up just gets rid of it.
The comedown is down to the amount of energy your body exposes of and the chemichal imbalance you suffer. After a large dose of MDMA u just wish to sleep and not touch it again for a while... its very hard to get into a habbit with it. (this is from experiance)
the come down from E comes from the Speed and Caffiene in it, which have horrible come downs, especially speed.
I feel happy, if not weird after a session. Without alcohol the come down is there but u usualy sleep threw it and come out the otherside feeling refreshed if not a lil nostalgic about the night before.
The chemichal imbalance is there, your brain is spent and any top up of MDMA wont improve your mood due to the way it works.
then side effects as it actually has quite a low toxicity effect, if you do over a gram and a half in 24hrs your putting yourself in danger.
say what they want. but i think in moderation mdma is worth the "comedown". makes you feel happy. mmmmm....
is that when you hit a point the bad side effects kick in & this happens way before an OD and u dont want to do anymore... Erowd's side effects charter which usualy contains DEATH... the worst thing here is confusion, headaches, dizzyness & vomiting :)
try baked beans!?!
i'm essentially just a big nerd who is, for some reason, impressed by people who take drugs and the stuff they do. I havn't taken anything "stronger" than weed, which is pretty gay. I fantasize about heroin addiction. It's a shame.
im sure if you really wanted to you could buy some 'stronger' drugs and be wacky also. its really not big or clever. it can be fun, but going on about it after isnt.
E/mdma looks pretty good. Speed looks gay. I just don't want to stagger home still on E then have to hide the comedown from my dad the next day. It would be pathetic.
I know a guy who always goes on about weed and drugs and stuff. He knows the latin names of marijuana plants and what chemicals are in E and stuff, and he goes on about it.
i'm sure quite a few drug stories on here have had the final detail "then my mum caught me throwing up in the toilet" omitted...
and its not really something to be proud about.
Im not saying people should be ashamed either. Just theres a line.
take MDMA, E is full of impurities, it gets boring quickly and you need to buy more and more. The first time E seems like good value for money but I know I need like 6 pills over a night to really enjoy the experiance like I used to. MDMA at first at £35/gram seems like a massive rip off but 2 or 3 bombs over a night will sort you out everytime and the comedown is much less MUCH less. Considering you can get about 10 bombs out MDMA this is a good deal.
i don't trust myself to have a "good trip". I'd just sit there worrying and crying and vomiting.
you dont get that vivid a halloucination if your in a well lit room. If your in the dark alone then maybe, but with others its so hard to have a bad trip especially seeing shrooms give you euphoria. You can OD on shrooms, thats the only danger :)
i didn't move in with you again.
you had to help your mum move :(
other wise i might have been put off by "YOU CAN OD ON SHROOMS".
"no, they don't all hate you"
"no, you can't lock yourself in the kitchen"
"no, there is no stag head on the wall, and no, it isn't going to bug you about failing that exam"
but you can't OD ON SHROOMS anyway.
its a toxin, but it takes alot, alot less then what is required for the effects.
its hard as if u do too much u tend to be sick
somewhere in the region of 4kgs of mushrooms to imbibe enough psilocybe to cause your body any damage.
On your logic, you can overdose on lemons because citric acid is a toxin.
with 11 friends we were scared by society so went to sit in a field out the back of a deserted mental home, somehow we managed to split into two seperate communities, Liliput, and Club-Ondyke. Liliput were peaceful and sociable whilst club-ondyke made more noise and chased sheep. We were all enamoured with a red bull can on a stick which became our god and we worshipped it. Many hours later i was accused of stealing a spliff and tried by campfire infront of the two communities. I was found guilty and so had to greco-roman wrestle the biggest member of club-ondyke. we then walked a 3 mile detour home and a went back and had a ham sandwich.
THAT is why shrooms are good for you.
That sounds like the context i would most like to do shrooms.
don't watch telvizzle.
It took me 10 minutes to unlock my phone. Unless you're behind the wheel of a car (the idea of which scared the shit out of me so much that i didn't really want to drive until a couple of days later) i have no idea how you'd go about killing someone on shrooms.
knows the score.
Mushrooms and nature are a beautiful combination. Throwing stones in streams, lying down in long grasses, running about in the sun- simple, almost childlike pleasures, amplified and contorted by the psilocybin. Great fun.
Don't sit and watch telly on mushrooms - the depressing nature of the media will only bring you down.
it's like i'm there with you!!!!
I have to say....it sucks.
and anyone who does it sucks.
People I've met are weird, and stare too much. They also tend to think they're better than you in a plainly smug way...
QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 100 mg) MDMA intrigued me because everyone I asked, who had used it, answered the question, 'What's it like?' in the same way: 'I don't know.' 'What happened?' 'Nothing.' And now I understand those answers. I too think nothing happened. But something seemed changed. Before the 'window' opened completely, I had some somatic effects, a tingling sensation in the fingers and temples--a pleasant sensation, not distracting. However, just after that there was a slight nausea and dizziness similar to a little too much alcohol. All these details disappeared as I walked outside. My mood was light, happy, but with an underlying conviction that something significant was about to happen. There was a change in perspective both in the near visual field and in the distance. My usually poor vision was sharpened. I saw details in the distance that I could not normally see. After the peak experience had passed, my major state was one of deep relaxation. I felt that I could talk about deep or personal subjects with special clarity, and I experienced some of the feeling one has after the second martini, that one is discoursing brilliantly and with particularly acute analytical powers.
(with 100 mg) Beforehand, I was aware of a dull, uncaring tiredness that might have reflected too little sleep, and I took a modest level of MDMA to see if it might serve me as a stimulant. I napped for a half hour or so, and woke up definitely not improved. The feeling of insufficient energy and lack of spark that I'd felt before had become something quite strong, and might be characterized as a firm feeling of negativity about everything that had to be done and everything I had been looking forward to. So I set about my several tasks with no pleasure or enjoyment and I hummed a little tune to myself during these activities which had words that went: 'I shouldn't have done that, oh yes, I shouldn't have done that, oh no, I shouldn't have done that; it was a mistake.' Then I would start over again from the beginning. I was stuck in a gray space for quite a while, and there was nothing to do but keep doing what I had to do. After about 6 hours, I could see the whole mental state disintegrating and my pleasant feelings were coming back. But so was my plain, ornery tiredness. MDMA does not work like Dexedrine.
(with 120 mg) I feel absolutely clean inside, and there is nothing but pure euphoria. I have never felt so great, or believed this to be possible. The cleanliness, clarity, and marvelous feeling of solid inner strength continued throughout the rest of the day, and evening, and through the next day. I am overcome by the profundity of the experience, and how much more powerful it was than previous experiences, for no apparent reason, other than a continually improving state of being. All the next day I felt like 'a citizen of the universe' rather than a citizen of the planet, completely disconnecting time and flowing easily from one activity to the next.
(with 120 mg) As the material came on I felt that I was being enveloped, and my attention had to be directed to it. I became quite fearful, and my face felt cold and ashen. I felt that I wanted to go back, but I knew there was no turning back. Then the fear started to leave me, and I could try taking little baby steps, like taking first steps after being reborn. The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded. Everyone must get to experience a profound state like this. I feel totally peaceful. I have lived all my life to get here, and I feel I have come home. I am complete.
it was Alexander Shulgin.
in the honeymoon period! Nice writing...
I found it after I read Huxley's 'Doors of Perception' and wanted to more texts that glamourised drug use.
is, according to some reliable sources, the way forward although I've not done it (yet) and probably shouldn't.
the engine rattles my bum like berserk
god i get some rushes off those kappa tracksuits
if anyone doesn't know what this is, it's a kind of cross between mdma and acid but with almost no comedown and a very slim chance of a bad experience.
its really trippy and euphoric & I loved it.... shame its so hard to come by
Considering the amount of people that DO take drugs regularly, and compare that to the amount of inane crap that gets wheeled out on here every day, I'd say it's actually quite surprising that there weren't more drug-related threads
I brush my teeth every day (and I imagine many of you do too), but there aren't many threads on that..
(I realise this isn;t really the same, but still.)
while brushing your teeth?
I'm just stirring.
so far ive yet to see one on this thread.
people usually just go 'oh i went out and did 123 and ended up in 456 with my 789 etc..' because it's utterly fruitless to bother trying to describe what you have experienced in words* and certaintly to someone who has never had the same thing.
*unless you're aldous huxley or etc.
anyway, meh. try reading europeancakeghost 's post up there ^
the prospective of others when I had an outter body experiance once (the prespective of me and who I was) I swiftly changed and cleaned up my act & now am musch more moderate in dosage and much more restrained.
I listened to 'In the Aeroplane Over the Sea'.
I listened to 'Now Here is Nowhere'.
I joined a band.
i keep forgetting about it/not wanting to do it as it hurts so much the next day, and it really aint that great at the time
someone spiked my drink with DRUGS!!!mdma once and i projectile vomited all over the floor. DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
makes me sound more like a victim and less like a lightweight, don't it.
there's very little in this thread that's anti-drugs. i have no problem with drugs. it's feeling the need to tell everyone about your crazy drug taking antics that bothers me.
brilliant, you had a conversation with a pair of trousers. i had a dream last night where i was playing football with jonathan ross. NOBODY CARES.
as much as i do like you rick i disagree. Im not anti drugs at all, but if people are posting inane bollocks on a public forum, people are allowed to tell them that they are, without people just saying 'dont read it if you dont like it.
I disagree with people effectively bragging about how many drugs they take and ill be damned if im gonna be silent on the issue :P
clinical tests i've read report that users experience a deep sense of connection with others with a fair amount of euphoria. it's also got some amphetamine in it (that's what the A is at the end), so it can produce a bit of excessive motor movement.
i've never done it. i preferred other hallucinogens.
get it daaaarn ya gullet n lets fooking av a party