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insipid, badly executed drivel. has anyone else seen this yet?
For some reason, as soon as I found out it wasn't going to be brilliantly, awesomely perfect, I decided I wanted it to be utter shit. And that seems to be the case. So yay.
but my friend is obsessed with the book and messaged me earlier to say the film was a massive pile of shit.
its laughably bad in some places. some bits are good, like the ARMOURED BEARS FIGHTING, bit they hardly make up for the rest :(((((((((((
that was good action but then came this dialogue
*good bear on ground, dying*
bad bear: is that all? IS THAT ALL? IS THAT ALL?
*good bear attacks and knocks bad bear to the ground and is victorious
good bear: yes. that. is. all..
a challenge, go and see it and
1) make it through the whole film = 2500 points
2) subtract 10 points each time you cringe and want to die
3) subtract 10 points each time the person you're with looks at you as if to say 'why haven't we left yet?'
4) shout 'who else wants their money back' at the end - everyone who agrees, subtract 10 points
add up your points tally. i will give you 500 euros if you manage not to go into negative figures*
*not a valid contract
The trailers and clips haven't been promising...
I'm not even sure if i want to see it anymore.
I really liked the book, but i'm worried seeing the film may give me the rage virus.
the main problem with it is the pacing. they should have made a longer film to allow the characters time to breathe and develop.
Like when Lyra meets Serafina Pekkala - she gets to spend roughly 30 seconds getting to know her before SF's emotional deus ex machina appearance later.
Obviously they weren't going to leave the bits in where iorek eats the other bear's heart. The anti-religion theme was toned down but not actually as badly as I'd feared. The kid playing Roger is genuinely terrible. Wooden as hell. The dialogue between him and lyra on the roof is so stilted it's terrible.
Overall the problem is they made a kiddified watered down shortened version of the book. It's enjoyable up to a point to see how it's worked out visually but it's a long way from doing justice to the book.
I think the dissing in this thread is slightly over the top though.
I'd be interested to see what someone who'd never read the book thought of it.
That would be a movie of spectacular badness, along Tomb Raider lines...
someone who utterly loved the books (like me) could be heartbroken by the poor job that's been done with this film. But I mentally prepared myself for it not to be great so I was able to actually quite enjoy parts of it by filling in the blanks.
It basically served to remind me how good the books are, which is no bad thing as I'll probably now read them again. (for the third time)
was that (like you said) the pacing was such that there was no time to get to know anyone, or understand the characters etc.
when i read the book i thought this was the main weakness, and the film only made it worse. like, for example, how Iorek sudden;y owes this girl a life debt after she basically just points something out to him thats fairly obvious. ditto Scoresby - he only spent about 30 seconds chatting to her and now he wants to risk his life for her?
WTF was the casting director thinking? he was fucking atrocious!
it's nearly as bad in the book. the business with iorek takes much longer and so much better developped. The whole 'current bear king wants to be a human and that's why he's defeated' thing was really badly missing from the film.
I think the idea with Scoresby is that he knows who she is already cos of 'the prophecy' or whatever.
but i did find myself thinking when reading the book how odd it was the way everyone drops everything to help her, but yeah - its much worse in the film because what little explanation there is in the book is seriously cut down
His other stuff is very much for children and runs at an even more dubious speed in my view.
I thought it was clearly a children's book that adults could enjoy as a result of that sort of pacing.
didn't ragnar beat iorek originally by cheating???
its fine. i quite enjoyed it. if you go in there expecting some amazing blockbuster epic then you aint gonna be happy. but if you go in expecting a toned down version of the book crammed into a couple of hours, then its enjoyable.
a fiver for that expectation?
personally, i never expected it to be some amazing piece of cinematic work. there were faults with it, but overall i thought it worked well *if* you have already read the books. as restlessboy says, i'd like to hear the perspective of someone who hasn't.
i did enjoy it, despite laughing out loud at some bits which were ridiculous, and it also not having anywhere near as much of an impact on me as the book did.
the world they created was pretty spot on to the world i had envisaged.
in the alternative london skyline?
that was awesome. i really did love their depiction of england. :)
they really nailed the atmosphere of the world in the books. with the slight differences between worlds and stuff. steam trains coming out of london and so on.
it made me chuckle each time they said 'the alethiometer.... also known as the... golden compass' EACH TIME THEY SAID ALETHIOMETER. ah ha ha :)
the woman enrages me. she spends so much of her onscreen time being nicole kidman she doesn't take it upon her self to act.
that no film will ever be as bad as nacho libre/hitman though.
suddenly i'm not so excited to see this film anymore.
I haven't seen it, I won't go and see it, but artistic merit is hardly a hurdle when you'll be packing out screenings full of young kids with their parents.
It's going to make a fucking shitload of coin.
i might just read the book again instead.
flipping going to see this on saturday and flipping costing 7 fifty.
poo poo poo
its always films i dont want to see that i get dragged to.
because the books are ponderous. Philip Pullman has a great imagination. He just can't write.
all dull bastards!!