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seriously, why the fuck is this getting so ridiculously overblown and out of hand?
so I'm not going to
is the cause not solution to all of life problems.
for fucks sake.
Religion is the glue of society for most of the world.
lets celebrate or something!
Will you drink to that?
i'll drink to anything :)
who decided to call the teddy mohammed?
Maybe for this reasoning?
links properly? Hmmm could be...
NUKE THE LOT OF THEM!
it's frightening how militant people are getting over it.
and shoot the offending teddy?
as some bizarre form of retribution?
cause at the end of the day the teddy couldn't say no. Peer pressure from the kids.
if he is to die at least call him by his name
they have her locked up there and they dont have president Bush
srsly the upshot of this is that it is unlikely that aid is a useful thing to be applied to the sudan at present as it is likely to be resented by a large proportion, until it has worked out its conflict, who the state actually is (its having a lot of disruption and identity crisis at the moment)
get tehir hands on the danish newpaper cartoonist.....so this teacher is recieving a brunt of this hatred which was not resolved to their satisfaction...
A nice gesture therefore would be for the danish newspaper to pay her some compensation for taking some of the anger that was created by them, and for which they made profit......alhouugh of course if this was known publically then there would be eve nmore furore
who has made a tidy packet out of being a 'controversial author' I think he should make a large (secret doantion to this woman) in recognition that he caused deliberate ruckus and got profit, she did it innocently, niavely, yet will recieve unreasonable punishment because of the anger at them not getting rushdie/newspoaper cartoonist etc
Although until she is freed he should keep his mouth well shut....if he or the danish newspaper DARE to speak out against this, whilst she is in danger then they are real C***S
for the psychotic reaction that some muslims have had to their work. Perhaps the sudanese government should pay her compensation instead?
but the reason that there is such unreasonable partizan anger and unfathamoble desire to punish someone who is a westerner (no matter how niave and innocent) is due in part to many state politics and public events and incidents and insults.
There are some people in this world who push things (maybe rightly maybe wrongly) Salmon Rushdie was a pusher. This teacher is not.
In other posts I have made it clear that I think that the blame should be spread......i have blamed in other threads the sudanese authority.....who are most to blame, although perhaps predictably so......nevertheless it is their attitude that needs to change......BUT,,,,,because of this protest they can now say that 15 days is the minimum they could get away with because of the depth of public feeling.............in the highly charged relationship between cultures there are varying degrees of cuplability in elevating or heightening tension......what Im saying is, is that Salmon Rushdie did actually use fairly abusive language and stuff in his book (you could argue that it is deserved) which he knew would be controversial.
He has millions.
I imagine she doesnt.
Are you claiming that afer salmon rushdies book or the danish newspaper cartoon, that incidents like this might not have been more likely? or more inflamed.
If you look carefully I did not 'blame' the newspaper or rushdie......I said it would be aq nice gesture......because I know that they will be thinking what I am saying a bit.
In Britain they defended the right of the danish paper to publish, but did not actually publish out of recognition of the further possibility of inflamation that that might cause ......this is actually what I think is the best response.
In another post I think you might find that I described what ghenghis khan would have done with such a law as is being applied in the sudan.....If you search it out you will see.
It is true that I have not repeated all of my other posts on the subject which everyone is getting weary about.
im afraid that I am also reacting in slight anger about the contrary reaction on some of these thread where people have wearily decided to blame her
this is quite funny
how dare they not be clever! how dare they! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIW
We'd have them easily, surely.
We'd be increasing the average IQ of the planet while we were at it.
The war aginst terrorism is over. Let the war aginst stupidism begin!
My top 3 quotes from this story:
1) "Can't we lash everyone named Muhammed who doesn't measure up to the high standards set by the original?"
Equal with: "It was the kids that named the teddy, we should lash them."
2) "Time was we'd send a gunboat down and have the whole mess settled by tea."
3) "She's Scouse. Fuck her."
Because the Daily Mail/BNP paid good money to set that story up, and they are gonna make sure it pays off
DiS would be able to send in a hit squad of concerned types to set off an AIDS nuke. Only language that type understands etc
where I live we had a recent turf war between Sudanese and eastern europeans. The eastern europeans won and started pimping underage prostitutes. Hell in a hand cart etc
Yeah, okay, but they're white. So they're pimping prostitutes in a culturally acceptable manner.
from Acton then?
has been probably the most depressing of all this year's religion-based idiocies.
Organised religion and the idiots who mindlessly follow it damn themselves by example in a far more effective way than any gobsmacked, (comparatively) rational observers could hope to express in mere words. There's no point. It's a waste of energy, and watching/reading the news saps my will to live enough as it is.
this woman must be killed, then presumably the outraged parents who caused all this fuss in the first place have already slaughtered their children for being blaspheming little tykes.
for the weeks the kids had the teddy at home with them
I've got a goldfish called Mohammed. Should I be killed? If I am his bowlmates Jesus and Buddha will have no one to feed them.
I'll bet he's got a cute little hook that gets caught in his wheel.
'Organised religion and the idiots who mindlessly follow it damn themselves by example in a far more effective way than any gobsmacked, (comparatively) rational observers could hope to express in mere words.'
You mainly mean Islam though don't you, and don't everyone look shocked, I'm sure that's what most are thinking
Oh the prpophet mohammed this, Islam is peaceful and tolerant religion and the teachings state that true islamic teachings prohibit etc etc blah blah blah
I'm sorry it just makes me laugh the amount of times I've read letter along the lines of 'Islam is a peaceful religion and in the Koran, chapter 7, verse 82 it states that...'
Said it before say it again, it's cultural people, wake, if you are asian you are more likely to be a muslim insofar as if from Hoston Texas thou art more likely to be a bible basher
I think I'll become a humanist
But I don't just mainly think of Islam when someone points out how daft organised religion can be. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism etc, I can think of all of them being involved in atrocities and idiocies.
You can say what you like about Osama bin Laden (not in front of him, obviously), but, at least he keeps any shite ideas for sci-fi novels that he may have to himself.
Scary, scary, fucking bollocks that shit... Look for the John Sweeney interview on Youtube. Oh dear :(
like L Ron? I mean, it doesn't appear to be that difficult. Mybe I should temp for a couple of months first - get some money under my belt.