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Also: Grant Stranaghan is a brilliant name. He sounds like a newsreader.
wait til he gets to my age :-(
i am going to ballyclare on sunday for dinner. i must find him and report back.
boys weren't allowed their hair past their collar. It's not that big a deal really. He could do with a trim, just a little bit off the ends so they don't moan. He'll be able to grow it in a year anyhoo.
and suspenders, lipstick and false eyelashes to school? huh?
You are right it might seem minor, yet the fact that they want to make it bigger is therefore indicative far more of societies pettyness rather than his.
(predictably) called girly, puffs, commie pinko long haired lazy layabouts, smelly etc etc.
I know it was oppression because I encountered it.
I would get shouted out in a lesson about my hair being half an inch too long......i remember always having to bite back the retorts
"yeah? and your shit at your job.......whats most important in the greater scheme of things, you petty minded git"
the rule is not passed the shoulder. Like its been said, he could just trim the ends, keeping it just above the collar? Its not the greatest injustice in the world. Most schools don't allow hair dye or skinheads either...
'past the shoulder'?
Why don't they insist on this for girls?
why not have a rule saying no more than 1 cm?
his iq decreases by 20 (its to do with stimulation of special glands in the neck and the tie acting as a kind of 'soft antenna'
This is why Fridays are now even less productive than they used to be (due to dress down fridays.
the concept of the telly news not being taken so seriously if the person reading it is not besuited or betied, is actually an appalling indictment on the gullibility and superficiality of our society?
Perhaps it is part of a wider scheme to alienate us all from any sense of personal identity and make us all conform to the same values and sensibilities.
More likely in my opinion it is that schools are well aware that anyone who looks different is a target for bullying, a difficult problem to eradicate. Therefore uniforms are imposed to make it less easy for people to be singled out.
jesus...are you aware of how conservative your opinions sound?
'breaking human beings' (although most of it occurs at an earlier age)
They are imposing a cultural norm on an individual, they are threatening to stigmatise him, ostracise him, exclude him and damage his prospects of livlihood if he does not conform.
It is the product of our inherited roman model of authoritarian centralised control.
The same has happened to me in life. When people say 'go ahead no one is stopping you from having hair like you want'........well they are really they make me make the choice, by unfairly applying false and misleading generalisations about how people with a particular look can or cannot do a particular job. (im not in sales) which really is as stupid a premise as being racist or sexist in jobs.......ok the impact is not hte same but the root of the fallacy is the same. people associate looks with attributes that are nought to do with them........it is dumbness to do this.
e.g. beautiful people might get a better deal so might be less bitter.
ugly people might get less good deal might be more cynical.
Im not saying this is so, just that there might be a relationship between how people come to be because of how others trreat them according to the look......in the same vein, beautiful people could sometimes be slightly more vain and unreliable(because they are given more largesse to err, or ugly people more realistic and reliable.
Again this is not necessarily true, I just wanted to modify my previous post to acknowledge that there is the possibilities of associations due to appearence.
Also the fact tha this fellow has decided to stick to his guns might be an indication that he is awkward.....I dont think so, Im sure he was sincerely outraged by the fact that he would actually encounter mild attributes of facism applied by a democratic state on a young person
tis true mr knees. i work in an office environment where individuality is not as highly regarded as consistency and conformity. i wear a shirt and trousers.
any of my friends who work in creative industries where individuality is highly regarded dont wear uniforms. i dont think its to stop me being bullied. i think its to stop me seeing myself as an individual when im at work. its also a demonstration that i am willing to compromise my own beliefs and values while im at work. i am demonstrating that i am prepared to "walk the line"
I hope they literally did this.
then when one cut it off and looked about 100000x hotter, they all caught on and did the same.
I don't really know why that's relevant.
my brother used to get sent to the barbers all the time, and it wasn't even as long as this kid! it wasn't to his collar, it was just in his eyes...
my early senior school years were spent arguing with teachers over friendship bracelets
I think during the volatile adolescent/teen years kids are trying to assert their identity and the stuffy schools should just let them get on with it-- the kids would probably be happier and like the school more if they were allowed to be themselves.
maybe its not reasonable to give kids the impression that "being yourself" is all that important when it isnt really valued in our society.
"Down with this sort of 'ting"
He's not been asked to shave it all off, just have a little trim so its not below the collar! He could just have a minute amount cut every week or so and still look exactly the same...
it's all about perspective people.
It is the SCHOOL that is blowing it out of all proportion.
They could just shrug their shoulders and add on his reports......refused to comply with request to neaten his hair.
I am going over the top because it is an example of the petty stupid mindset of some schools who allow bullying and treat violent assaults dismissively yet punish severely an untucked shirt (my son got put on uniform report for 3 months....humiliating for him.....the teacher that did it admitted he ws not an habitually scruffy and that he did not consider it to be a defiance of something he had been requested to do.
This teacher is often late and often misses lessons, my son is scathing.....the whole class is, because of the teachers attitude they all do not care that he mnight have personal problems....in fact they all retort 'good, he deserves them'
This teacher is a blue eyed boy of the school and is in the organisational heirarchy.
This teacher is a twat, as are many others.
I could go on and on, the school is rude and dismissive to me, they couldnt even be bothered to investigate a serious assault that I reported to them, i had to keep persuing the incident myself to ensure they did something about it, yet they can take time and resource for being petty and blowing unimportant things out of proportion.
THIS is why I am blowing it out of proportion......this news story does not exist in a vacuum, there is other unwritten subtext to the issue here
by any means, a bad school, in comparrison to others.
As a dad I have had dealings with several head teachers, me and Mrs Knees are NOT uninvolved in our sons infant and primary schools (althought the secondary school is uninterested)
WHilst doing 'positive things' for the infant and primary schools we have encountered varied behaviour from the head teachers and deputies one deputy and one head have been helpful reasonable positive people. 3 heads we know are arseoles.
are completely and utterly useless. I'm hoping I get in to a PGCE course for next year and become a teacher, and plan to particularly alert and conscientious about bullying.
Perhaps the school imposed the rule, as I've said above, as an anti-bullying measure? Victims are often those who are perceived as being different, and physical difference is the most obvious. Its the same reason that many schools have uniforms or regulations on what clothes/shoes/jewelery etc a student can wear
I remember being in the first year of my secondary school.
For some unknown reason (to me) I was suddenly beset upon by others 'in the playground' who decided I should be the target of being flicked with fountain pen ink (I didnt squirt any back as I had a ball point)
Not being able to do much about this I went back into school (one would not have been permitted to go home and get another shirt)
I was then Roared at and virtually knocked over by a teacher gone purple in the face with rage who demanded to know what the hell I thought I was playing at. a tentative meek explanation that 'it wasnt me si...' cut short by a bellowed 'Dont give me any lip' and I was marched off to be whacked.
I then kind of realised that teachers were scummy shits who were my enemy, because they were bullies who cannot be reasoned with.
I had read books like 'the colditz' story and I treated them as enemy guards, I occasionally took pity on one of them when I could see that they were not thriving in this stupid value system and they were equally as unhappy as me.
I tried to send others mad and make them think they were bonkers.
I might have fullfilled the self fulfilling prophesy and became what their initial treatment of me was .....their enemy.....but I was originally just fresh innocent meat to be corrupted by their corruption.
School is shit,
Since becoming a dad I realise that I must temper my predjudice to not cause my sons any trouble, so I do not let this resentment show itself, directlor indirectly, for I believe that they would be petty enough to take things out on a child even if its their parents who are 'difficult'
I realise that the rules have changed (too far in overcompensation, but these rule changes have failed to address the unreason of many teachers)
Teachers may complain about the pupils, yet their lack of care of integrating the new pupils and care for what they feel like is responsible for changing many of these pupils into their later problems
(It is not always the parents fault, nor is it always teenage hormones fault, it can also be schooling faults)
given the changes to education since you went, a policy of punishing the victim? Its more an attempt to not have any become identified as a potential victim as part of a wider anti-bullying initiative
are we just going to do this every day now? :D
Its your fault.....I cant halp it its nearly literally an automatic response from me.
Obviously we are not on opposite sides.....it is good to be the devils advocate, unfortunately I worry you will bore of me soon.....I just cant let it go though, its not your fault actually its THEIR fault for being cra**er than they should be
? Point at him even more? than his hair already did?
I know policy has changed Strange nasty men can no longer hit innocent kids for no crime.
but the underlying authoritarian and heirarchichal nature of schools hasnt changed, I just detect that althought the horrid surface has been changed some of the underlying attitudes havnt changed.
I feel that they dont really want to know what happens to children at school or how they are forced to pretend to be hard or machismo or left to their own devices to fins a peer group that they feel slightly more comfy in or any of the dynamics of school outside of lessons.........they just come up with blunt instruments because they feel they CANT understand whats going on.
(oh dear that was just waffle)
which I'm quite sure he and his parents would have been fully aware existed, he wouldn't have been 'put up on stage' (not that he was bullied, I'm talking hypothetically)?
unless they are sensible and important rules that should apply even if not proscribed by being written
'the correct response to bullying' is to report it........oh yeah?
What if you are bullied by the closest thing you have to freinds at the school? would thet mean you would have even less freinds?
OK the bullying might stop yet the lonliness and isolation increases. Teachers do not try to address this.
In fact I have noticed that it is school policy to dilute ebullient rowdy groups with shy pupils......they sometimes do this with shy well mannered pupils who might only have a small group of freinds, they dont show any care as to how isolated the shy child feels when moved to a rowdy group in a different crown away from their only freinds.
Seriously teachers can be right c***ts
I'm not impressed by this vilification of the vast majority of teachers creaky! What can teachers do? Force people to be friends with each other?
There are a variety of processes which lead to bullying and teachers quite often have little or no power in preventing them. I'm sure the teachers you have encountered may well be cunts, but the vast majority are just people, like any other cross section of society, trying to earn a living, teach children and care for them the best they can in a restrictive system. Teachers aren't really allowed to delve so deeply into a students personal life
explain carefully to him, and discuss with him their issues and concerns about bullying, if they get him comfy enpough to talk back, they might actually find out off him that he was bullied anyway, (sometimes subconciously we deliberately create difference so that we can conciously feel better about why we are experianceing unfair bullying) or (maybe he was bullied anyway and this just made him fell better about himself because he was feeling more confident about being himself, being an individual...leik 'oh well at least Im not one of those without any personality who follow the pack an bully' perhaps he is constructing a persona for that reason........banning him is stupid
isnt that just shifting the focus though daniel..it would be like the police going round to a family of sikhs suffering racial abuse and asking them to "tone it down with the sikhism" as it was annoying local racists.
if this is something you are interested in then it seems you have to make a choice between encouraging individuals to conform because of intolerance and ignorance...or to challenge ignorance and intolerance and champion the individual.
to steal quotes from cd covers.."disobedience is mans greatest virtue" oscar wilde
I later saw the film 'If' encapsulated what I felt fairly well.
It even included my daydreams of machinegunning the b****RDS
I am now quite normal though thank you
"His father George said: "I could have cried when he told me what they did to him - they put him in a room and threw work at him, no contact with anyone."
No fair. That was pretty much all my last two years of secondary school, and my mother didn't so much as raise a concern about it.
but the school is sooooooooo wrong it hurts
or considering the imapact of schools on pupils, they say this is due to lack of time/resource.......yet they have time to interfere and act like tw**s when they want to........
My contempt for education and schooling is enormous, which is a shame because I am sure there are a few contientious teachers and educationalists.
Unfortunately it is the gits that are most noticable
i was once told i had to cut my hair in order to work at waitrose, and it wasn't even that long, other had to too. having said that, they are more lenient now, as there is a dude working there with longer hairs now.
i think it's all about those old gits who can't grow hair any more being jealous of longer hairederers looks
"This is Northern Ireland in 2007. Solitary confinement, I think it's called - he did say he got plenty of work done, but I don't think it's fair."
whereas you clearly have the brain of a duck. cleft.
y dnt u fk of?