Some of us support the team at the bottom of league 1, bereft of ideas, tactics, money and players who want to play. Oh and we are going bankrupt, and am sure our two or three good players will be gone in January.
Would take a disapointing season in the premiership any time you want to swap.
Of course, AFCB ar my second team, I meant to say that. I ACTUALLY support the local first school five a side team. Would sell my spuds for a shit season in the sunday leagues.
but sympathy for the fans of sides whose futures are practically all but over, while at the same time, the top clubs in the country pump shit loads of money into football outside of this country...what happened to the days of plucking talent from lower league sides?? :(
used to be...unfortunately United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool's academies snap up anyone else now...as a result the middle man (ie the lower league clubs) aren't necessary and they don't make the money they need to survive...add to this a number of other problems and clubs below the Championship (and even some in it) will struggle to stay alive
and still one of our better players, and strangeley rarely injured.
We are going bust because the shit football is turning people away and we arent hitting our break even attendance.
Regardless of any common sense though I am pinning all our problems on Paul Telfer, who gets paid well, but is completely shit. He is my new scapegoat, and whoever said the other day that you shouldnt boo your own players needs to see that man play then reconsider.
good home result, and we're looking pretty good as far as the table goes. That said, we haven't really had any properly tough fixtures other than Man City away yet.
It really is time for Jol to go. I really can't see that he still has the dressing room (other than Robinson, who is sitting pretty after signing a seven year contract)
But there is something quite beautiful about seeing Darren Bent - the man who signalled a new 'top four' era at Spurs - so painfully short of confidence, and knowing that it probably stems from that glorious miss against Arsenal - the team who were apparently set to make way for this new almighty Yiddo force
Sucks for Spurs fans, but I have zero sympathy. Leeds showed that you can't just throw millions and millions and attempt to break into the top four that way
The spirit's gone - as some guy said up there, Berbatov is not the kind of fella you want in this situation and you wonder how many other players actually care that much about the team. We miss King Ledley big time, Dawson's gone to pot without him and we have no leader. Bale (our only positive this season) has probably broken every metatarsal and will be out forever.
I'm guessing Klinsman will replace him with though, he's already said that he wants to manage a club in London next and he's worshipped at Spurs, so logical conclusion.
I'm sure they can break the top 4, at arsenals expense of course. I wish I could dig up that thread were everyone made there predictions for the league table this season.
was an easy one to argue - SPurs had strengthened there good squad whilst Arsenal had lost their best player. Arsenal have exceeded expectations quite impressively; we're underperforming quite spectacularly.
We finished 5th the last 2 years and supposedly improved the squad, although so far only Bale seems to have really done so, but thats the benefit of hindsight. Therefore saying that Spurs could push on seemed to be fairly realistic. There was no doubt that in previous years Henry was one of the best players in the world/prem, although its been shown that he maybe wasnt the best player for the team as a whole.
I think the suggestion that maybe Spurs could have made the top 4 this year was valid, just the signings havent done too well, and virtually none of our big names hae performed.
but i cant be arsed and youll just disagree. Currently there are 4 better teams than us in the prem, but at the beginigng of the season that wasnt certain, as Arsenal have performed well, and Liverpool have been ok too.
makes our current predicament even more baffling! On paper we have a top 4 squad wihtout a doubt. Unfortunately we've had some important players injured, loads who've forgotten how to play and some who don't have the heart for a fight. We've also been a little unlicky (shouldn't have lost to United or Liverpool) but we've basically massively underperformed. Arsenal clearly have a better team, and that's a lot to do with Wenger, although i'd still argue we've got the better squad.
and thats down to Robinson as much as anyone. Its sad because i like him but ive lost all confidence in him. He used to keep us in games, and be a source of confidence, now he just seems a bit of a liability.
any idiot could say that we are shit right now and rightly so. the point is that on the basis of last season and the signings we made, optimism about challenging for a top 4 place was not particularly misplaced.
strike force, it's just those four players aren't currently performing to the level they can do. Plus Arsenal need some another striker who can challenge for a spot and act as back up as it's a long season.
Remember this is based on how good we know the players can be (i.e. getting us to 5th for the last 2 seasons) compared to your squad:
Yeah like you wouldn't have Berbatov...
Keane
Bale
King
Chimbonda
Lennon
Robinson
Jenas
Defoe
Taraabt
Robinson
You seem to be missing the point. I don't know how much of Arsenal you've seen this season, but their success is based more on them playing phenomenally as a team with a couple of exceptional individual performances driving this on (Fabregay (that's funny) and Adebyour in particular) than being a team full of stars.
Also, you must appreciate that it's not some kind of brag, at least if we were doing shit with a shit squad we'd know why!
Anyways, Clive Allen's off to Stevenage apparently.
and to be honest I wouldn't want them to be either. Their strength is their team spirit and the way they work for each other. Having big name players would ruin that.
Berbatov: I said he wouldn't start, he would be in our squad though
Keane: Likewise
Bale: I like, but would be a fringe player at us
King: too injury prone (like gallas), but is a good defender. Wouldn't start.
Chimbonda: Are you serious? France play Sagna and Diarra (who plays centre mid for us) ahead of him.
Lennon: No end product, waster
Robinson: Bollocks. Just bollocks. We had him on trial before he went to you and rejected him. Enough said.
JENAS?!
Defoe: does nothing else but score goals, and doesn't even do that anymore
Can't say I know Tarabat
You appear to have written robinson twice.
I dont mean to get offensive here as im enjoying this fairly reasoned debate, but i just think now you are becoming a bit biased, which is of course natural.
seem to be to be Clichy, who is ok but in my opinion Bale would offer a lot more. I dont particularly rate Hleb either, he looks a decent enough player but a bit lightweight, id rather have Lennon (he does have end product, just not enough of the time. But wasnt the same criticism aimed at C.Ron?).
Fabregas i cant argue with, but Flamini is shit.
Rosiscky is ok, but not great but i think choices like this would be marginal. And the front two i think theres not a lot in it at all, although i would personally put Keane in any team (with one or two exceptions perhaps)
Overall i would concede you have the better team, but not by much.
Bale needs to play a few more seasons at this level before he can be compared to Clichy, who only needs to work on his distribution to become a world class full back.
Flamini may not look like he offers much, but is the perfect foil for fabregas. A water carrier who is now a french international.
Hleb is not a conventional winger, neither is Rosicky. Both move inside to better effect. Whilst people did used to criticise ronaldo for over elaboration, he still produced more than lennon.
I think there is a large gulf between our teams. Your entire defence suffers from at least 3 lapses of concentration a game, as does your keeper. Your midfield has no width, and only Keane is producing up front.
ex-England rugby coach. He's back-up for malbranque.
Anyways my point was they'd all get in your squad which you've kind of agreed with. Berbatov would get in any starting line-up in Europe more often than not. Obviously it's subjective and we'll just go round in circles. Just agree with me cos i'm off home soon.
On a serious note, a couple of seasons back, and prior to this, there were no better keepers than Robbo in the league, so surely you overlooking him was a bit of an error, no?
we signed Lehmann instead and went a season unbeaten, so I think we were in the right. Robinson is a great shot stopper, but you must be the first to admit has little presence.
We needed to sign a winger- PEDERSEN from blackburn. i must have said it about 100 times but he would have been perfect and cheaper than Bent, especially considering we have Defoe not even warming the bench at the moment. The hole in the defence is due to King and Kaboul i think may be a decent enough replacement if he settles in. We needed a star in midfield though, someone who could just run the game, but they arent too common, and i guess thats what seperates the best from the rest. We should have least tried to sign Riquleme or someone though if we are serious about top 4.
they just need a few more players so that they can cope abit better when players get injured. Think the african nations could hit them hard though with 4 players possibly going.
You could all be Boro fans. At least Spurs have the players to get them out of shit. We pretty much have no hope right now. Still, at least The Championship is a good league...
you should still be in the premiership next season. They seriously need to sort there strikeforce out though, looking at the team I can't see where goals will come from.
Southgate (who I really like, by the way0 is a firm believer in not just relying on the strikeforce for goals. But there's no one else who can score at the moment. Mido has about 12 goals in him, Tuncay 8, Aliadiere 5, and Dong-Gook Lee already has his 1 for the season. Downing is our stop acorer so far, say's it all really...
I really hope we'll be OK. The thing is, we're coming out of every game saying "yeah, we didn't play bad, but we didn't look like scoring". That's not good.
Couple of good saves. It's just I don't see him ever breaking the 15 goal mark. Which Yakubu and Viduka both did. Still good bit of busniess with Yakubu, how shit does he look at Everton!
Until the Newcastle defeat I was basically in support of the manager, but now I can't see how they're going to get back to a decent league position without replacing him.
I don't know if blaming the manager is always the right idea, but they've got a quality team there really, but some thing's not working.
but the board gave Jol no assurances a few weeks ago, and he knows hes a dead man walking, how are you sposed to do anything in a situation like that. i think they should give him a chance, but i think its too late now.
i'm a man united fan, my step dad and brother are spurs supporters, and the impression seemed to be that they were hoping to be able to challenge for a CL place this year and that was basically the consensus between the majority of their fans.
i can't see what grounds they would've fired jol on.
We are truly shit
it's not making my bad day any better :(
I'm even having trouble giggling at the Carlube adverts on the ad boards.
I keep waiting for Spurs to turn good...
I really like them. And Jol.
Happen soon plz.
if it happens itll be without Jol im afraid
I love him, but if his job was unsure a few weeks ago, it definately is now. Its a shame but its just not happening at all.
Bye bye Jol.
I think all the Spurs DiSsers should meet up and have a big manly cry together.
I agree
I'd like some man hugs at the moment.
im up for that
i dont know any spurs fans here.
:(
It's just so sad.
Y'know...
I don't even know my team's result from yesterday. Oops.
1-0 win
Get in!
:D
2 points off 4th.
I feel sorry for Jol, his team isn't performing. Berbatov is a great player, but shit to have in the dressing room ta times like this.
at*
Count yourselves lucky
Some of us support the team at the bottom of league 1, bereft of ideas, tactics, money and players who want to play. Oh and we are going bankrupt, and am sure our two or three good players will be gone in January.
Would take a disapointing season in the premiership any time you want to swap.
Good point.
Of course, AFCB ar my second team, I meant to say that. I ACTUALLY support the local first school five a side team. Would sell my spuds for a shit season in the sunday leagues.
It's all relative
innit?
I guess
And I do understand that if you have got used to being in the latter stages of the FA Cup, and in Europe and stuff it must hurt to be struggling.
But, you know, when you are looking at your club dissolving in front of you, its hard to feel any sympathy for any one else!
[cries to self]
This is how Leeds started though
We could be on -15 points soon
:'(
Ha!
Well there is usually one "big club" down in the lower leagues so maybe its your turn.
(would be nice away trip so lets hope so - subject to me still having a club to support)
cue
unbeatean run
cue
unbeatean run
I have nothing
but sympathy for the fans of sides whose futures are practically all but over, while at the same time, the top clubs in the country pump shit loads of money into football outside of this country...what happened to the days of plucking talent from lower league sides?? :(
spurs did it.
it doesn't work.
who did they
sign from the lower leagues? Gareth Bale hardly counts
bale
dawson, reid, simon davies, gardner, lennon, huddlestone, michael brown.
and others which i can't even remember.
fair cop
but none of those were below Championship level though were they?
no because below that
they wont be good enough for the prem surely?
but they
used to be...unfortunately United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool's academies snap up anyone else now...as a result the middle man (ie the lower league clubs) aren't necessary and they don't make the money they need to survive...add to this a number of other problems and clubs below the Championship (and even some in it) will struggle to stay alive
bournemouth can't go bankrupt!
if you get booted out of the league, then we will be bottom!
Harry Redknapp
ought to be loaning out some of Portsmouth's untapped youth talents
He has done that
Wilson is okay, Begovic was fucking awful, but its all irrelevant as our manager, and pal of Uncle Harry's is an idiot.
is
Anderton still there?
Someone's gotta keep the physios in work
are their
wages the reason they're going bankrupt?
Thta's the most common reason,
obvious but outgoings are more than incomings. Most of the outgoings are on wages so ...
Yeah Anderton is still here
and still one of our better players, and strangeley rarely injured.
We are going bust because the shit football is turning people away and we arent hitting our break even attendance.
Regardless of any common sense though I am pinning all our problems on Paul Telfer, who gets paid well, but is completely shit. He is my new scapegoat, and whoever said the other day that you shouldnt boo your own players needs to see that man play then reconsider.
another
good home result, and we're looking pretty good as far as the table goes. That said, we haven't really had any properly tough fixtures other than Man City away yet.
Spurs were hopeless tonight
It really is time for Jol to go. I really can't see that he still has the dressing room (other than Robinson, who is sitting pretty after signing a seven year contract)
But there is something quite beautiful about seeing Darren Bent - the man who signalled a new 'top four' era at Spurs - so painfully short of confidence, and knowing that it probably stems from that glorious miss against Arsenal - the team who were apparently set to make way for this new almighty Yiddo force
Sucks for Spurs fans, but I have zero sympathy. Leeds showed that you can't just throw millions and millions and attempt to break into the top four that way
We are well and truly fukd for this season...
The spirit's gone - as some guy said up there, Berbatov is not the kind of fella you want in this situation and you wonder how many other players actually care that much about the team. We miss King Ledley big time, Dawson's gone to pot without him and we have no leader. Bale (our only positive this season) has probably broken every metatarsal and will be out forever.
COYS!
I thought this was your year
to break the top four? Oh dear.
A bad evening for Spurs
but as a betting man - I wonder what the odds were that every one of the top eight teams would win this weekend?
I'm going to miss
Jol's post-match interviews. They are the best thing about Match Of The Day
Yeah, I like Jol.
I'm guessing Klinsman will replace him with though, he's already said that he wants to manage a club in London next and he's worshipped at Spurs, so logical conclusion.
Its still early Glen
I'm sure they can break the top 4, at arsenals expense of course. I wish I could dig up that thread were everyone made there predictions for the league table this season.
Spurs:
too good to go down?
There, I've said it.
They won't go down
but I would never stop laughing if they did.
Well, part of that seems sorted
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7058362.stm
The Leicester Mercury hoardings are running with 'MEGSON PLEDGES LOYALTY TO CITY', when that's the last thing a lot of people want him to pledge.
7th?
Christ thats optimistic.
10th at best.
Thing is, the prediction that Spurs would break the top 4
was an easy one to argue - SPurs had strengthened there good squad whilst Arsenal had lost their best player. Arsenal have exceeded expectations quite impressively; we're underperforming quite spectacularly.
(and we've been unlucky)
^ this
hopefully we can turn it around, still plenty of time left, but now id be pleased with a mid table finish and decent cup run (me being hopeful)
How can you say that though?
We finished 5th the last 2 years and supposedly improved the squad, although so far only Bale seems to have really done so, but thats the benefit of hindsight. Therefore saying that Spurs could push on seemed to be fairly realistic. There was no doubt that in previous years Henry was one of the best players in the world/prem, although its been shown that he maybe wasnt the best player for the team as a whole.
I think the suggestion that maybe Spurs could have made the top 4 this year was valid, just the signings havent done too well, and virtually none of our big names hae performed.
Yeah
I think if one of the top 4 had started poorly we could have done it, but as it happens weve been crap.
Look at your squad
its not a top 4 squad.
I was gonna run through the squad and argue
but i cant be arsed and youll just disagree. Currently there are 4 better teams than us in the prem, but at the beginigng of the season that wasnt certain, as Arsenal have performed well, and Liverpool have been ok too.
well yes on current form
but now you are just being awkward.
ok fair enough
but i should have said in terms of squad strength.
well anyone can see hardly anyone in the squad has played
anywhere near their potential.
how does that work?
Looking at our squad
makes our current predicament even more baffling! On paper we have a top 4 squad wihtout a doubt. Unfortunately we've had some important players injured, loads who've forgotten how to play and some who don't have the heart for a fight. We've also been a little unlicky (shouldn't have lost to United or Liverpool) but we've basically massively underperformed. Arsenal clearly have a better team, and that's a lot to do with Wenger, although i'd still argue we've got the better squad.
also we tend to be in favour of letting teams have a couple of soft goals
and thats down to Robinson as much as anyone. Its sad because i like him but ive lost all confidence in him. He used to keep us in games, and be a source of confidence, now he just seems a bit of a liability.
That
is quite simply the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen posted on here, and I have seen some bullshit in my team.
There is no way in hell that anyone could make an argument that spurs have a better squad. Thats just utter bollocks.
LOL
Lehman V Robinson
Whos worse at the moment?
Lehmann isn't our goalkeeper
is he? Almunia is. And he is quite clearly better than 'Robbo'
theyre both pretty woeful
have you actually seen almunia play?
yeah hes ok
wouldnt have confidence in him though
you haven't watched him then
he is solid as they come. Never drops a thing.
I rate Keane
Berbatov drifts into laziness far too often, and doesn't seem interested.
this season, yeah.
last season he was brilliant.
Not one spurs player
would make our starting lineup.
Yes, that includes Berbatov.
WRONG
he has been on fire this season
hasn't he?
its ridiculous to even have this debate
Spurs are shit this season. That doesnt mean the players are shit, we just are out of form etc. and are not performing as well as we should.
Theres no way last year you could have made that claim.
but its not last season is it?
RVP and Adebayor have both raised their games (as has keane, fair play). Berbatov is going backwards.
i know but thats not the point
any idiot could say that we are shit right now and rightly so. the point is that on the basis of last season and the signings we made, optimism about challenging for a top 4 place was not particularly misplaced.
yes it was
because even after your signings, your squad was still not better than any of the top 4.
no but it was better than a squad that finished 5th
hence the possibility of challenging?
no
BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A BETTER SQUAD THAN ANY OF THE TOP 4.
WHAT PART OF THIS DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
january signings needed:
left back, experienced centre back (although I really like Kaboul), left mid, centre mid).
Sell berbatov if someone offers €25 plus-
On paper Spurs look like they have the better
strike force, it's just those four players aren't currently performing to the level they can do. Plus Arsenal need some another striker who can challenge for a spot and act as back up as it's a long season.
I could make an argument...like this:
Remember this is based on how good we know the players can be (i.e. getting us to 5th for the last 2 seasons) compared to your squad:
Yeah like you wouldn't have Berbatov...
Keane
Bale
King
Chimbonda
Lennon
Robinson
Jenas
Defoe
Taraabt
Robinson
You seem to be missing the point. I don't know how much of Arsenal you've seen this season, but their success is based more on them playing phenomenally as a team with a couple of exceptional individual performances driving this on (Fabregay (that's funny) and Adebyour in particular) than being a team full of stars.
Also, you must appreciate that it's not some kind of brag, at least if we were doing shit with a shit squad we'd know why!
Anyways, Clive Allen's off to Stevenage apparently.
Arsenal aren't a team full of stars
and to be honest I wouldn't want them to be either. Their strength is their team spirit and the way they work for each other. Having big name players would ruin that.
...errr...
that's what i was saying...
Yes, I was backing you up
Right
Berbatov: I said he wouldn't start, he would be in our squad though
Keane: Likewise
Bale: I like, but would be a fringe player at us
King: too injury prone (like gallas), but is a good defender. Wouldn't start.
Chimbonda: Are you serious? France play Sagna and Diarra (who plays centre mid for us) ahead of him.
Lennon: No end product, waster
Robinson: Bollocks. Just bollocks. We had him on trial before he went to you and rejected him. Enough said.
JENAS?!
Defoe: does nothing else but score goals, and doesn't even do that anymore
Can't say I know Tarabat
You appear to have written robinson twice.
so not one spurs player would start?
absolute bollocks.
I dont mean to get offensive here as im enjoying this fairly reasoned debate, but i just think now you are becoming a bit biased, which is of course natural.
I don't think its biased
Our starting line up is:
Almunia
Sagna
Gallas
Toure
Clichy
Hleb/Diaby
Fabregas
Flamini/Gilberto/Denilson/Diarra
Rosicky
RVP
Adebayor
I honestly don't think any of your players would get into that team.
and
I am enjoying this debate, please continue!
well the weak links there
seem to be to be Clichy, who is ok but in my opinion Bale would offer a lot more. I dont particularly rate Hleb either, he looks a decent enough player but a bit lightweight, id rather have Lennon (he does have end product, just not enough of the time. But wasnt the same criticism aimed at C.Ron?).
Fabregas i cant argue with, but Flamini is shit.
Rosiscky is ok, but not great but i think choices like this would be marginal. And the front two i think theres not a lot in it at all, although i would personally put Keane in any team (with one or two exceptions perhaps)
Overall i would concede you have the better team, but not by much.
oh and also you need to consider if you wouldnt have any spurs players
by what margin are the arsenal ones better?
....
Bale needs to play a few more seasons at this level before he can be compared to Clichy, who only needs to work on his distribution to become a world class full back.
Flamini may not look like he offers much, but is the perfect foil for fabregas. A water carrier who is now a french international.
Hleb is not a conventional winger, neither is Rosicky. Both move inside to better effect. Whilst people did used to criticise ronaldo for over elaboration, he still produced more than lennon.
I think there is a large gulf between our teams. Your entire defence suffers from at least 3 lapses of concentration a game, as does your keeper. Your midfield has no width, and only Keane is producing up front.
...
http://drownedinsound.com/articles/2518047#r2521991
...
"Hleb is very under-rated - he's one of our most skillful and hard working players - if you watch him closely you'll see what I mean."
I see what you mean - you could replace hleb for Jenas there and say the same thing. srsly.
Bale could quite easily be the best player in the prem
in a few years time. As good as Ronaldo or Fabregas.
yeah i would agree with that assessment
he could be a great player though
Yeah, I meant Andy Robinson
ex-England rugby coach. He's back-up for malbranque.
Anyways my point was they'd all get in your squad which you've kind of agreed with. Berbatov would get in any starting line-up in Europe more often than not. Obviously it's subjective and we'll just go round in circles. Just agree with me cos i'm off home soon.
On a serious note, a couple of seasons back, and prior to this, there were no better keepers than Robbo in the league, so surely you overlooking him was a bit of an error, no?
Taraabt is superb.
In regards to 'Robbo'
we signed Lehmann instead and went a season unbeaten, so I think we were in the right. Robinson is a great shot stopper, but you must be the first to admit has little presence.
thats largely due to a lack of confidence i think
i dunno why but hes lost it a bit.
And taraabt looks fantastic from what ive seen.
I'm off!
I've enjoyed this. More tomorrow please!
Bye!
OK!
Robinson had more presence than Santa when he was good. Now he's lost his presence. Christmas is cancelled kids!
Good day to you all!
X
yeah Bale looks fantastic.
We needed to sign a winger- PEDERSEN from blackburn. i must have said it about 100 times but he would have been perfect and cheaper than Bent, especially considering we have Defoe not even warming the bench at the moment. The hole in the defence is due to King and Kaboul i think may be a decent enough replacement if he settles in. We needed a star in midfield though, someone who could just run the game, but they arent too common, and i guess thats what seperates the best from the rest. We should have least tried to sign Riquleme or someone though if we are serious about top 4.
yeah well thats the problem with being 5th
you want to sign the best players, but theyd only move to go to a top 4 team.
yeah but you have to keep hold of them
its increasingly hard to break above the 2nd league within the premiership.
yeah i wouldnt argue with that
the transfer policy this year seemed to be if they are good we will buy them, rather than looking where we desperately needed players.
Id rather have kept him and not spent the money we spent on Bent
to fund it. But yeah it could happen. hes fantastic to have if you are playing well though.
yeah agreed
but a lot of that is due to the way he plays. Hes not the type of player to haul you back singlehandedly im afraid.
definately
but they arent easy to find
THE question:
how do you pronounce micah richards?
is it micker or miker?
Mika
my-kah
that's what I say and that's what I'm sticking by, even as the rest of the pub looks at me with pity
you see
it was always my-kah hyde, because that sounds cool.
but mick-ah richards has a better flow to it i feel.
Tannoy is a brand name
public address system is the correct term
srsly?
meeka? sounds like a pokemon, or brian may's bumchum. Richards deserves better.
At least
we've finally found some consistency :D
Newcastle have a good backbone now,
they just need a few more players so that they can cope abit better when players get injured. Think the african nations could hit them hard though with 4 players possibly going.
Quit your whining
the lot of you.
You could all be Boro fans. At least Spurs have the players to get them out of shit. We pretty much have no hope right now. Still, at least The Championship is a good league...
Boro will be okay,
you should still be in the premiership next season. They seriously need to sort there strikeforce out though, looking at the team I can't see where goals will come from.
That's the problem.
Southgate (who I really like, by the way0 is a firm believer in not just relying on the strikeforce for goals. But there's no one else who can score at the moment. Mido has about 12 goals in him, Tuncay 8, Aliadiere 5, and Dong-Gook Lee already has his 1 for the season. Downing is our stop acorer so far, say's it all really...
I really hope we'll be OK. The thing is, we're coming out of every game saying "yeah, we didn't play bad, but we didn't look like scoring". That's not good.
:-(
Mido is fantastic.
He really is. But he's not prolific enough.
Yeah he would have.
Couple of good saves. It's just I don't see him ever breaking the 15 goal mark. Which Yakubu and Viduka both did. Still good bit of busniess with Yakubu, how shit does he look at Everton!
He was never THAT lazy at Boro.
He was always cutting on to the left wing for some reason. But he doesn't seem to move at Everton.
His finishing is incredible though.
Well until February anyway.
Jol.
Until the Newcastle defeat I was basically in support of the manager, but now I can't see how they're going to get back to a decent league position without replacing him.
I don't know if blaming the manager is always the right idea, but they've got a quality team there really, but some thing's not working.
its not the way to go about it
but the board gave Jol no assurances a few weeks ago, and he knows hes a dead man walking, how are you sposed to do anything in a situation like that. i think they should give him a chance, but i think its too late now.
yeah which is exactly why we should have sacked Jol
in the summer before we had spent the money if they doubt was there. or waited til the end of the current season to go looking.
No me too
i like Jol. But its clear the board wernt fully happy as it only took a few games for them to look for someone else. So why let him spend this money?
Maybe future job prospects. I dunno?
even though...
i'm a man united fan, my step dad and brother are spurs supporters, and the impression seemed to be that they were hoping to be able to challenge for a CL place this year and that was basically the consensus between the majority of their fans.
i can't see what grounds they would've fired jol on.
Klinsman
He's available, a spurs hero and has said very recently that he wants the next club he manages to be London based, so Spurs is logical.
Otherwise Mclaren? He might be available soon, poss Hoddle?
Bullshit
Keane is by far our best player consistently