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so prole... stick that in your pipe and don't smoke it
Jez - I don't smoke and havent since December. Anyway well done Scotland.
But I also know you opposed the smoking ban, I'm hoping to convince you of the error of your ways.
Is it working?
but the report saying pubs now 'smell and are just as healthy in terms of air as the country' is a bit blah isn't it?
People will always smoke, rich and poor alike, and so they should.
but as long as it protects non-smokers it is effective as a public health law.
if prole wasn't in favour of the badn even whilst not smoking, then this isn't necessarily enough.
everyone realised that bars would be less smokey blah blah blah. however, the consequences extend beyond public health and into society and civil liberties. regardless of rights or wrongs smokers have had a right taken away from then and yet another nail has been put into british social society. less people will go out and we will live in let mor isolation from each other.
It has never been within our rights to cause harm to others. The only reason smoking has been banned so recently is that we have only just reached consensus that it does cause harm to others.
It's all about a hierarchy of freedoms, the right to be safe in public is more important than the right to enjoy a cigarette. Anyone who refutes that would be ignoring an overwhelmingly popular view.
obviously cotinine levels falling in non-smokers would be expected. and is hardly news.
the reduction in heart attacks: i'm very skeptical as to how far that can be linked to the smoking ban.
it's the first time that agreement has been widespread as to proof of the health benefits of a ban. That being said, a lot of people were looking for proof that bans do protect health. People looking doesn't mean that finding is flawed.
makes me smoke more.
take some responsibility
to go outside just for the sake of having one.
Oh well. At least I'm doing it outside I suppose, so I'm the only one suffering.
I saw some hearty looking chaps smoking pipes on hols which got me thinking..........
aren't smokey british pubs part of out culture? I think they are, and in one fell swoop, gone, thanks to the health fascists.
I am very sceptical about this report, the main reason being the "17% decrease of heart disease, year-on-year since the ban was introduced in March 2006"
wow, year on year? so, heart disease is 17% less than it was a year ago, that's some prolonged, detailed research there, and it's all to do with the smoking ban?! what a load of bullshit, are there not any other causes of heart disease? and if we cure/ban all of those will it disappear altogether?
I prefer a smokey pub, because otherwise they stink of shit, farts, BO, drains and stale beer. Yes maybe that doesn't "apparently" give me heart disease, but no less carcinogenic than the air alongside a main road.
damn those wet libs!
you will see a lot of pubs wither away and die now - there's 4 in my local area up for sale, but this is probably more to do with the proles moving to spain or something than the smoking ban.
I'll always oppose the smoking ban on principle in as much as I will oppose the fact that people stand to lose too much money if they were made safe.