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Anyone seen it yet? Thoughts? I'm going this evening.
I really liked the book... although it's not one of McEwan's best, I have to say.
get with the P R O G R A M M E
is incredible. Quite amazingly sophisticated. I'd say it's definitely McEwan's best, although I do love The Innocent. Really looking forward to seeing the film, have only heard good things about it.
to spot all of the places i know.
it's all about 2 for 1 on Wednesday. Reckon it might be a busy one.
(work = cinema, obviously), and I really really enjoyed it. The younger Briony, and Vanessa Redgraves versions are great, I wasn't so sure about the 18 year old one. There are some really beautiful shots in it as well, one of Keira Knightely in the underground at the end, and several of the Dunkirk evacuation. In every showing so far, all the old ladies always gasp and grumble when cunt is typed onto the screen in enormous letters, and all the women come out crying. Also, one of the girls from This is England is in it as the cousin, she's great, and should definitely be a "one to watch" kinda actress.
is possibly the most beautiful thing i've seen in the cinema since winona ryder went nutz.
We've both been to redcar enough times, i'm sure. You can join in my enthusiasm, too!
for an hour and a half. but then kind of can't conclude anything. i got the feeling it should really be twice the length and explore the guilt and panic and regret far more.
the ending's also the shittest thing ever. it makes ai's look fantastic...
it's so shit. it's the kind of thing you drop marks for if you used it in a primary school short story.
it's a horrendous cliche and if you like it you probably like titanic.
it's just horrendous in every way. they acting's dreadful. the whole beauty and poetry of the film disppears (which i appreciate is kind of the point, and symbolic and whatever, but it's also shit)
it also reduces the whole thing down. it's the kind of film that should have ambiguity, where you can add your own interpretation or whatever. the o lolz i didn't do anything but i wroted a book and now i'm old thing's just such an easy way of avoiding finding and way of reconciling the plot, whilst simultaneously making sure there are no loose ends or mystery.
it's rubbish. and if you like it you smell of wee.
but I'm too lazy to point out why.
The fact that I'm too lazy to point out why may prove I am rubbish though.
not the same, obviously, but similar technique.
"I woke up and it was all a dream" renders the entire film meaningless whereas "I've imagined how I'd like things to have worked out but they didn't" adds a sense of futility but in a far more complex and indeed sadder way.
this worries me a little. Having said that, all the reviews I've read have said it works.
I struggle to believe that it is worst than the ending for AI. I can't exactly remember what the ending of AI is, but I was in California when I watched it...and I remember very clearly as the ending was happening, some big guy at the front stood up and went "they can't do that!" And everyone else was like, "hell yeah, this is whack!"
It was well funny.
by virtue of the lack of robots and the presence of old people.
is the ending makes it sadder rather than better.
I don't wanna get into an extensive discussion of the ending 'cos lots of people who read this won't have seen teh film but I thought it was actually quite sad and poetic.
It was an ending that worked better int terms of leaving the audience with an idea and a concept than as a dramatic event but I thought it really worked on that level.
not in terms of the quality of the film.
the conclusion offered by the ending makes it sadder. but the manner that it's offered is cheese laden and cack.
i firmly believe it should be a golden rule of cinema to never flash forward to a tv interview in the present day though.
And am not overly-keen on the flash forward to TV interview technique but I personally thought they pulled it round after that.
I wasn't sure the shots of them on the beach were entirely necessary (they didn't need to be that long for sure) but the idea of the ending was good enough for me to feel it worked, despite some cluminess in the execution.
and based on the reviews I've read - all five-star or four star reviews from Waitrose gimboids (anyone remember how universally positively the appalling 'Sideways' was reviewed?) - the film also sounds dull.
Sorry to be so frank!
He's not a Waitrose ponce.
And I've only read 'Enduring Love'.
Don't trust me too much!
my only experience of Ian McEwan had been the start of Child In Time (couldn't get into it) and the film of Enduring Love, which was pretty so-so.
and i thought the book was good but not amazing.
but i loved the film. i thought it was as good as, if not better than the book.
deadcats - you don't like Ian McEwan or Sideways. Get out.
I can't relate to either of them at all. I think we must inhabit different planets, what with your (actually sometimes justified) campaign of hate against Newcastle United Football Club.
apart from that final shot of keira. that was a bit iffy. it has been ages since i read the book, so i can't really remember how it ends in that.
i think joe wright did a really good job in streamlining such a complex and intricate novel.
It stopped the film from being timeless as it should be.
i thought the whole film worked perfectly. it had me hooked from start to finish.
it was funny to find out anthony mingella's in it. oh, and the score is beautiful.
I loved the music, and the percussive typewriter clicks.
and Keira-Fucking-Knightly is in it! She is the shittest actress we've ever produced, and we've knocked a few 'em out! Well done Keira - now piss off!
of someone who's never seen the film...
Ian McEwan is bad at writing BOOKS, but I'm going to read the Innocent as described in the terms below and see if it changes my opinion.
but im certain it will be shit!
no way. The ending of Atonement (the novel) is amazing.
The ending of The Innocent (the novel) is one of the best things ever and almost made me cry.
The ending of The Kindness of Strangers - very powerful and slightly disturbing.
The ending of Saturday - what did you expect? Saddam Hussein to turn up wearing a Leeds United kit?
until the 20th
I just saw it... it's visually stunning but I wasn't sure I was completely convinced by it and I hated the jump in time towards the film's ending.