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is it good?
go to San Diego Zoo instead
Simon & Garfunkel
It is. Expensive, but good.
not as good as whipsnade in bedfordshire though.
the monkey there throw shit at you
Loads better. More open.
London Zoo is a bit grim by comparison. Or at least that was the case in... 1982. I'm old. :(
tho it used to scare the shit out of me as a kid cos i was a pussy.
did you ever go to woburn? that was the most fun. monkeys jumping on your car > most experiences in life, i think.
no i was getting confused!! its arguably not easy to confuse me (laura kirsop BSc PGCE)... i meant woburn yeah. whipsnade's a bit rubbishh.....?
although woburn is better. my other fond memory of woburn is of giraffes sitting in the road and the staff patiently trying to move them along :D
my abiding memory is some fckin lion staring into our car and me crying.
when was this, like last week or something?
It's not bad, I quite liked Gorilla land.
the 'drumming gorilla' from the cadbury's advert actually played drums on 'Spaceman', but was stricken from the credits after refusing to learn to play a spherical song..
of walking around it and seeing FREE ANIMALS!!!
you can walk around the perimeter and see some of the animals. it's pointless and a lot skanky.
It was a very hot summers day and we both wanted calm... so thought 'let's go and look at some animals'.
The gorilla in it's concrete enclosure, green vines painted with crappy neon green paint, was vomiting through some kind of distress.
We both cried and vowed never to go back there. I also donate money now to animal charities as a result.
And being cooped up in an enclosure like that, when this city has SOO MUCH WEALTH.. it shocked me.. compared to other international zoos, just how shit the enclosures were. I felt disgusted at actually being human and so did Matt. No creature of that stature should be in a concrete enclosure with painted green 'vine leaves' that looks like it's been drawn on there with a poxta pen...
There's an international committee that is supposed to oversee zoos and ensure that they create environments true to that of the animals if they ARE going to be kept in enclosures.. No idea why this poor gorilla was overlooked. I do hope this has changed since then.
I was there earlier this year, they have quite a spacious enclosure now, there's a picture here: http://tinyurl.com/2g63tm.
There are some really good environments now, especially for the smaller mammals. They recently opened a reasonably large two-tier rainforest-type area (http://tinyurl.com/2tdtx5).
Lots still to be done of course, but that's always the way with zoos - you can never reproduce habitats in their entirety and difficult prioritising decisions always have to be made. I don't envy the folks who have to choose.
im looking around the website trying to find details on the enclosures etc.
I might just speak to my friend at PETA
"The zoo is currently (2007) undergoing a renovation project aimed at replacing cages with enclosures which recreate animals' natural environments, giving a better lifestyle to the animals, and a more realistic experience to visitors"
Im still quite wary now though hmm
people see animals and distress and so to satisfy their conscience they let a little bit of money come out of their wages each month, largely unnoticed.
i still donate each month and that was back in 2000 I went to London Zoo...
And now it seems that they are renovating the zoo at long last.. so perhaps there are a whole lot of other animal lovers out there who felt the same and donated.. and it DID make a difference.
though she might have ended up recreating the finalé of the mini-series 'First Born'.
natural environments... I guess there is no issue with "space" out there, fortunately...
But I don't really think you can mitigate these things. If you believe they shouldn't be in cages then a large cage is still, well, a cage.
I think they said the Giraffes get swapped around with ones that are out in a big safari park, so clearly that would have been BIIIG in Aus. Still...
Also, the Gorilla enclosures used to have doors at the back to let them out into a larger area at London Zoo. I'm sad if that's gone. I like the Gorillas.
as it was very centrally located and didn't have enough 'space'... Melbourne Zoo is just.. MAMMOTH... very old site and HUGE.
I love Gorilla's too - I cried when I saw that picture of the Gorilla family being slaughtered in (was it Tanzania) by poachers on that 'safe' farm (where Gorilla's in the mist was filmed)... The most visually shocking picture I've seen in a long time.. It actually made me wretch and feel violently ill.. I was on a photo shoot with a photographer and showed him and we were both just 'silent' for a while.
Humans are disgusting, really, in the big scheme of things, compared to the rest of the life on this planet.
All they were doing was grazing. Shot for existing and grazing. And as a 'warning' by the poachers to those who owned the sanctuary.
I see your point about Gorillas but we are supposed to be the most highly evolved creatures on this planet with intelligence that surpasses other creatures.. which I seriously doubt.
I'll have to try to check out Melbourne's one in December.
Will LOL if you say it's small.. just realised it could have been my 'childs' perspective but I went there as an adult and it was a lot bigger and more catered for...
as it is ridiculously expensive.
MONKEYS. TUNNEL. YOU WALK THROUGH IT. MONKEYS STEAL YR MOBILE.
i went to the south lakes animal park last week, which was the awesomest place ever - you get jumped on by lemurs - hundreds (well, lots) of lemurs. and the otters were the most adorable things ever - although they seemed to like tearing the littlest one to bits. oooh, and the bears were cool - although it looked strangely easy for them to be able to get out of the enclosure.... and the emperor tamarin! which is now maybe my favourite animal ever (sorry otters!)
it was a happy zoo
i've always wanted to meet a lemur
you can get so so close to all of them, but the lemurs are just crazy - i've got some pretty cool photos i'll upload actually.
You're not understanding the whole 'size' aspect of London, are you?
it's not -that- big.
Hyde Park alone is bigger than York city centre. Or something.
isn't exactly very big....
and i realised hyde park / kensington gardens is actually bigger on The City..
looks of animals in tiny cages with cabin fever.
especially the big cats
it seems they have decent enclosures which are being improved though?
the leapord now has twice as much space. from a 4m hutch to an 8m hutch.
it's a zoo.