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He got barred again.
The garden party was brilliant.
dove from above made
He said "there is an irony in you saying this is terrible but also telling a seventeen year old girl she needs to try MDMA again".
i wonder where he got the idea that i am seventeen.
deffo ghoul then
at some point, 'cause i saw it on his profile..
why did he get banned at all? I don't think he was Ghoul.
was about fingering girls.
Taken literally, it could've been construed as paedophile prose. It was slightly dodgy ground anyway.
I think that's awful grounds upon which to ban someone.
And I just read (I think) the poem and it doesn't really imply itself to be about paedophilia.
And, if it had been, then I think that, in all but the most extreme cases, the right to freedom of artistic expression has to prevail.
I wanted to do it but fishplums beat me to it I think.
Don't know who unbarred him.
I wasn't around when it happened.
I just had a feeling that he was ghoul so was keeping an eye on him.
He got into a a interesting discussion on the Music board about Brainlove's views on "Poshcore" and definitely sounded like an intelligent, articulate adult having a reasonable debate on a music forum.
Didn't seem at all Ghoulish.
had us all fooled before he spammed the board too though.
Chris Sardine pretty much posted like someone of the age that I understand Ghoul to be.
Everything about the way John_the_Poet constrcuted his posts, his thoughts, opinions expressed, method of arguing etc. were utterly different to any post I've seen by Ghoul, Chris_Sardine or any other of the aliases used.
Although it's possible Ghoul/Sardine or whoever invented an entirely new personality and set of views for himself, I don't think it's very probable.
I'm confident that John_the_Poet was just a guy who got a bit carried away with his poetry posting.
we only like to praise and criticise the arts that already exist
I saw this behaviour in the Hills Have Eyes and Wrong Turn.
did his threads get deleted too
if he didn't even include the idea that it was a young girl he was talking about? If he didn't then that's freedom of expression. Worse people have been allowed to continue on here because it suited the people that run this site. I find threads slagging people off tend ot float about for ages.
If he was banned for some other reason then fair enough.
he's definitely someone who's been on DiS a long time, as his allusions to Pigfoot on his myspace proved.
i saw him online at 4am, refreshing the page a lot, but not posting. then i decided that, rather than risk another ghoul attack, i'd ban him and unban him in the morning. which i did.
i would hate how no one on these boards trusts me, but i've sorta resigned myself to that now.
no ones that closely involved on here surely?
what the hell is the ghoul attack?
Ah well it's done now. *I've always hated poetry.
i've met a LOT of people on here, and i've never banned anyone but trolls and Martbowski. and i've never not been able to back it up.
ghoul attack = 1,600 threads started across all the boards. takes a hell of a long time to clear up.
they don't trust you, don't you think?
I haven't met you.
So is Mart banned again?
Oh right so this guy spammed the boards? That's incredibly annoying and that incarnation deserved the ban but the poet user, wasn't that too pre-emptive? OR did you see the poetry as the beginnings of him spamming? Whatever someone will always complain about banning on here. I see no real issue in this instance.
truck, last year. we didn't really talk that much, but we've met.
it's just about noticing the same patterns. the funny little things he always does in his user info. the time when someone asked him to share some poetry from somewhere else online and he went "er, well, yeah, it's on a friend's private poetry forum". the reference to Pigfoot on the myspace he pleaded to be unbanned from.
Mart's banned because he was being quite horrible to everyone, regardless of whether he agreed to them or not. there are plenty of other reasons, but i don't want to open that can of worms again.
He's been like that for ages tbh.
Yes you had a jimbo duvet at Truck. We never spoke. It was too much DiS for comfort.
Sometimes we all need to just relax. There are Z million sites he can post his poesie on. It's not a big deal and I see where you're coming from now. If I was you i'd just forget trying to defend the decision. People are fickle, they'll move on in a second.
can you really see when someone's refreshing the page? how come?
they'll stay at the top of the list.
but i do that a lot anyway, to wait for someone to post something. i think it's a little bit of a dramatic step but ah well.
users online list
that people are complaining when a troll isn't barred fast enough and when a potential troll is barred too fast...
in a schizophrenic rampage. Different people want different things.
that trolls arent barred fast enough. I think everyone praises plums for how well he does dealing with trolls
but I'm not sure it's so much a criticism of Fishplums as a question as to whether there are enough mods.
courtesy of fishplums.
what secures a poster a banning not if there are enough moderators. Anyone who out and out spams the board, which happens from time to time usually gets banned and no one objects to that. It's the sly sorts I have issue with,the people who are being offensive etc and don't get banned. It got to point where I couldn't be bothered to post on here. Anyway issues with DiS is a whole other thread.
but just in case i'm not online when there is a troll attack, we have three other chances of limiting the damage now.
and i totally understand where you're coming from. the problem with banning offensive people is that, even though the majority will be frequently annoyed by them, a few wont be. say for example i banned wrightylew - nice enough guy, but pretty intolerant of people's views and forceful of his own opinion without any real hint of him listening to anyone else.
there would be a flood of people who would oppose that.
and just the other week with the whole Martbowski thing. there were tons of threads about it. mostly debating the whole "it's only the internet" excuse.
can. of. worms.
he was ghoul. I had a PM conversation with him a few nights ago where he seemed pretty normal.
Saying that I once had a conversation with ghoul for about 2 hours. But that wasn't the same.
He's a pretty cunning fellow, I'll give him that much.
i think banning him was the worst thing you could do because that would make him want to spam the boards. At the time he wasnt doing that he was actually discussing stuff albeit a bit tongue in cheek, plus he was getting praise for his poetry which is probably the reason why he wasnt spamming, he only spams when hes bored to get attention probably
when it's like 1000 posts long?
and didn't want to wake up to destroyed boards so barred and then un-barred as explained.
if this wasn't explained to John-the-poet then fair enough.
but I mean seriously, does anyone really give a shit?!
bush = a lizard man
you should just ban all new users.
If anyone wants to join they have to acquire a defunct username from someone else.
I'm willing to sell 'RussellCrowe' to someone for £50.
Because you're the only person who's brought up 'trust' here...I'd agree with Mr. Hawkins, that his dialogue with us in the thread about 'poshcore' didn't lead me to think he was Ghoul.
Anyway, you banned him then unbanned him so that's fair enough. You gave your reasons.