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does anyone ever talk to them?
that was the follow up question.
she was rubbish though :)
I saw a psychiatrist briefly. It was £240 per hour long session. Hence "briefly". Also, bear in mind that London is probably more expensive.
I never did and look at me now, no money and single!
of a really bad stand-up comedy routine.
the ones I've known and worked with have put me off for life.
but then i got angry at her so i stopped.
I used to come out feeling so much worse than before
bollocks. the woman thrived on my anger and tears.
and kept talking about god, i hated her, but at the same time couldnt actively hate her because she was so sweet, yet wouldnt shut up about god.
therapists aren't meant to be personal! they're meant to listen not talk. sue.
Is that your therapy name?
absolutely anyone can practise as a psychotherapist in the UK. Therefore there is a high likelihood of a shit experience.
i did go via my catholic school to get her. but yeah i might sue her, once im done with the police.
I hated her, so I deliberately tried to make her think I was insane.
I thought it worked at the time, but that's probably because, y'know, I was ten years old and didn't question the fact that a professional therapist would be able to tell I was taking the piss.
don't let your mum pay for you. Because then you get in a situation where, you want to stop going because it's shit, but you've already spent £300 odd of her money, so you don't want her to think she's wasted it. So you carry on going and waste more instead.
but with driving lessons.
so I talk to them in that context.
Haven't actually been to see a psychologist since I was about 10 or so when I went through a phase when I was pretty violent (which is completely at odds with how I am now).
Saw a counsellor at about 17. Not sure it did much for me though.
I'm not sure if I'd ever get myself referred to one in the future. I might do if I was having problems but I usually seem to be able to largely sort my own head out when need be. I definitely think it's worthwhile for some people though.
their evil pseudo-science is destroying the planet and corrupting humanity.
it's probably the best thing I've ever decided to do. Then getting a lot better coincided with my lack of money, so I stopped. I still think about/use the things she taught me on a very regular basis though.
because that's exactly what modern psychotherapy is like!!
it's massively unregulated and there is enormous scope for inappropriate people to practise with no accountability or checking of standards. It's pretty much true in the NHS as well and quite frightening.
maybe I was completely psychotic and entirely imagined a really good psychotherapist. She was actually in my head, but helped me anyway.
Anyone want me to give them some therapy?
there are some amazing ones. Pity it's such a lucky dip
to 'pick 'n' mix'?
of what that was supposed to mean
can your fix my mind please.
It is strange......i dont know if its because I percieve different choices than those presented and explained to most, or whether Im just mad.
She was genuinely fantastic and helped me incalculably.
Maybe I got lucky.
it was just on the NHS.
It was in West London, where rich people live. This may have had something to with the success.
Also the fact that I'd already read and understood the principles of CBT, so she immediately found me very receptive.
I had too. But I'm not very receptive. :(
be more receptive
christ, has everyone on DiS been to therapy? Maybe there's subliminal messaging that DiS are paying them to give us to tell us to spend time on this site.
I'm officially sane not like all you mentalists round these parts
and you're the warder. Your clinical establishment is making us mad! Set us free, man!
Crazy people just tend to be attracted to internet forums.
of middle class malaise that goes hand in hand with a lack of social confidence, relatively good education and an obsession with music.
She said I was fine. The end.
I thought he was an idiot. And so instead continued on talking to friends and companions. I think that works better. I'm too young to be a good case study for a pyschiatrist, and the effort he'd put in to really get inside my head would take a long time. Friends know you, and not only that, they experience life in a similar way to you. They're far better at helping you out.
that's probably what my pyschiatrist would say.
Who HASN'T seen one? This might be quicker.
stop ignoring me.
he was called Martin and talked in a calm montone voice, which actually freaked me out. I only went once (Not cause of how he talked I just didn't see the point) I had a councilor at school who was horrible and made me more upset.
I think success depends on the psychiatrist/therapist and how open the patient is, E.g talking about how I felt made me very uncomfortable so it's not great for me but therapy helped one of my best friends.
i need one (osychiatrist)
that explains it
maybe i should have...
my dad is a psychiatrist. I talk to him quite a bit, but not about my feelings.
not necessarily because Im wrong, but because no-one has ever given me a rational explanation for anything
that a psychiatrist will be able to help you there. they will probably just blame your parents/upbringing/whatever. then again i dont really think that rationality relly comes into it.
so who do i go to see?......supposing it was driving me to frustration?
I blame all societorial institutions for handing me very personal short straws.
(Im not thinking about parental ones......why would they know everything.......also my mum never purported to know everything)
However institutions and organisations have always insisted/insinuated that they do know everything and force me to comply or demand I do not express that what I find wrong with their explanation.......i.e. they all lie......they must be lying because they say that they know everything.....or at least that they know better then I do.......
If this is not the case then my mind must be wrong because I totally do not see their explanations to be the truth. (yet they insist that they are)
you have to accept that there are no clear answers, that people who think there are, are lying to you, but that they arent doing it on purpose, thats just they way they view the world. if you want to constantly question everything you are going to have to accept that its going to be a bit of a head fuck. People who dont question things might be happy but autonomy vs happiness? which do you want?
psychological problem just because you don't believe what an organisation tells you. I mean, unless you're concerned about your own reactions and behaviour, but it seems normal to me to constantly question things
they might not be aware that they are lying.........because they are not necessaarily addressing me, they might also be talking to themselves.......their true lie might not be their explanation, but rather the idea that they say/imply that their explanation is better than what I might suggest, when they havnt really thought about it.
It might be accidental lies of laziness of not really treating me seriously.
The problem is many things that I dont agree with seem spread over many /(all?) institutions, ....seem to be a building block of them. I therefore have problems accepting anything they do....I feel guilty about not being true to myself in all dealings I have with any authority.
Why?.....maybe I am more confused than you guys, because when I was young (in the badder/older days) this was explained away as that I was 'bad'......well I took that on board for a large part of my early life and saw myself as bad......whilst being anything but (apart from emoness and self deprecation) I came to realise that my self deprecation actually ended up hurting people I cared for and I could then see clearly that this self deprecation was inappropriate and misplaced. however it was a large part of my early life.
Perhaps I am somewhat schizophrenic.....except not chemically, but by circumstances?
I have no comfort zone when it comes to authority/institutions, no autopilot, this is because of institutions/authority behaviour.
Dont get me wrong....i can get on fine with individuals within organisations.
since I no longer see any reason to follow or believe any rule (unless I morally agree with it) (other than trying to avoid punishment by a large and implacable force that would employ financial and penal penalties) (not that there are really any that I tend to break)
The flip side is that there are many things that I think should not be done that are legally allowable, but that I dont do.
me......I scream at the radio (R4) in the car occasionally. When they get an 'expert' on and the R4 (intellectual) interviewer, doesnt question them properly when they say something silly.
I mean I scream like chanelle.....except there is no audiance camera.....which makes it a lot more of a disturbed action...non?
that's fine. I do it and I'm ok.
I mutter to myself a lot. So that's cool too.
A lot of people have problems with authority etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc so that's cool.
yourself don't you?
and with some chagrin has to reply...............'yes'............you are right.......i think i need to take a break........im sorry y'all for being so arrogant and boorish, cos I probably have posted like that.
probably more disturbing if you screech like chanelle when other people can see/hear you. private is fine, people wont think your weird. its all about conforming in public, dont do anything people will be freaked out about. its all ok.
some chavs commented the other day on me - i was walking to the pub and due to the massive rain (it was truck weekend i was in abingdon) there was like a foot deep puddle in the way. I didnt have any choice but to walk through it and the chavs were like "he doesnt care" so i just said - well, yuou have to get to the pub. But was this weird behaviour? oh no, i got wet and didnt conform to what they thought i should do. boo hoo. is this anything to do with anything?
for pampered people.
I'm turning into Julie Burchill
Your face is going to take over the world if it keeps growing.
you've really let yourself go this last couple of months.
Ive plonked myself on the DIS couch ^ please feel free to offer therapy/advice
therapists, counsellors, whatever you want to call them.
As has already been said, the training is quite shockingly minimal; and I can well imagine situations where they might do more harm than good.
I've never had to see a psychiatrist, thank crivens. But it's an infinately more disciplined/evidence-based profession.
PSYCHOLOGISTS FTW HOWEVER
thank Bernard Cribbins
most psychologists were good although the male ones I appear to get under their skin too much and they tell me way too much about themselves and their own problems. Saw a female one last year who I was fastracked to as I was pretty much losing my mind and she was really good. After a few sessions I started opening up to her more which resulted in me being more honest with myself about stuff
Have seen one psychiatrist and felt he was smug and judgemental
but my mum went to one after her divorce, and i know quite a few people that have been.
i think seeing them is only a positive thing.
and so far there's no "transference" issues ie. I don't wanna fuck her.
The judge has already put me in jail for a month! for missing my appointments... oh, yeah and extened my visits for another year (thanks!) and yet 3 outa four times I show up now she just tells me to go home. Meh.