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Anonymous Tory. Great.
er.. i forget her name. she's head of the Countryside Alliance, despite being MP for an inner city area. this confuses me.
my old MP was Jeremy Corbyn. he was great.
i lived in Glenda Jackson's area for a while as well.
to be going back there in september!
I saw her at a local Labour meeting in a pub once (I was just in the pub, not at the local Labour meeting).
I did hear a rumour she only goes to local Labour meetings just before elections but I don't know if that's true or not.
it is. thanks!
she's a strange one, because she was opposed to the olympics and has campaigned on a number of issues that i'm broadly in favour of, but is also the head of those bunch of thugs.
she was also responsible for officially revealing the existence of the BT Tower :D
I've not really done a lot of research on her, other than her views on fox hunting.
She's a charlatan.
I'm going to read beyond the first line now.
Can't get out of bed!
A Lib Dem guy called Steve Webb (think he's their pensions spokesman). Gets involved with local issues, frequently in touch with people to see what they think, makes himself available and approachable and generally does all the things a good MP should do.
and i wouldn't know. he doesn't *seem* to do much of factor in my life in any obvious way.
is your MP.
Andrew Slaughter and he's doing a fucking marvellous job. ok?
is a very nice man.
Geoffrey Clinton Brown is a very nice man
He gardens all day and then sleeps in his van
Those roses he grows get sold to Japan
Geoffrey Clinton Brown is a very nice man.
They turn into mushroo-oo-ooms
The shrooms I do consu-ooo-oom
Mind you, his predecessor Nicholas Ridley was an uber-horrible Old Tory. Amusingly gaffe-prone, though.
"He became a Freeman of the City of London, which should come in handy should he wish to drive his sheep over London Bridge."
she seems alright (apart from the sending her kids to private school thing)
at least she is visible
is my local MP too! As far as I can tell she does a decent job for the average person in Hackney and Stoke Newington, but I wuoldn't describe myself as one of those people.
I have 3 issues with her though:
1)She will do literally ANYTHING to get herself in the media.
2)She has been an MP for over 20 years and is still a backbencher. You have to question her ability.
3)She was the first black female MP. This is very noteworthy in itself, but by christ she won't let you forget it! It's been over 20 years!
is it not more that, for at least 12 of those 20 years, her views really weren't in tune with those of the dominant forces in the party?
her views in tune with those of the dominant forces in the party? I don't think they ever have been.
and New Labour are very anti-private schools. or at least were for a long while.
a member of the campaign group and is vehemently opposed to private schools....
I went to private school and turned out to be a lovely chap!
it makes her a massive hypocrite, as she's a Labour MP who's previously attacked private schooling.
She also professes to be someone who believes in a fairer, more egalitarian society
I think private schools are a load of wank and like most people Id rather my MP to be someone who shares some of the values I hold dear. It's more because she is a hypocrite though.
on a government-funded scholarship. if i hadn't done, i would've gone to a school that had a GCSE A-C passrate of below 15%, and used to get drug dealers hanging around out front.
load of wank, eh?
it's also a load of wank that such failing schools exist.
this was 15 years ago, and it's got better since then.
but, y'know, i wouldn't who i am today without it, and my life would be infinitely worse.
beliefs in systems (obviously I'm glad for you that you got a decent education). I suppose this is the dilemma Diane Abbott was in.
I just happen to believe that the existence of private schools (plus underfunding) is what holds back the development of state schools.
apparently she's an obnoxious twat who desperately loves playing 'the race card'.
She lives for the race card!
He's very boring and likes voting in line with whatever Mr Big Guy wants.
My local MP is 'Gorgeous' George Galloway.
Unless it's in his job description to just be an ongoing pain in the balls, I'd have to ask "what job?"
for a few months until they remove Brent East and combine us with West Hampstead. Cheers!
Yes I think she does.
that's a punchable face if ever i saw one.
If it looks like Tory Boy, then...
He also works in my building, I once spoke to him in the lift.
I like him.
absolutely wonderful man.
I didn't approve of his relationship with Sarpong and so left the area
Anyone that has come into contact with June 'ping pong' Sarpong, should not be allowed into the Chamber!
Only just though... I don't actually live in Hornsey/Wood Green
She's rubbish anyway. All she does is complain about (Labour run) Haringey council, who are actually alright.
David Lammy is ok. He lives quite near me and I regularly see him in the Winding Wheel near Hornsey station
Our local MP had come to our school to talk to us a couple of weeks earlier. He saw me and a couple of friends outside the Houses of Parliament (in a context where, although he knew there our school had gone up there that day, he woudn't have had any way to know that we were with the people from school) and recognised us and said hello.
Obviously this has no bearing on how good an MP it is but I thought it reflected well on him as a person.
Labour, Islington South. Career politician, whose appearances in the media don't mark her out as the sharpest tool on the benches. Last time she was in the Islington Gazette was complaining about Necro’s gig at the Scala posing a threat to polite society and public order. Yeah, good one.
Several times I’ve considered moving up the road so I can be in Jeremy Corbyn’s constituency.
for the last year or so, and to be honest I haven't got the foggiest what he does to be honest.
Prior to that it was Claire Ward in Watford. And she was fucking terrible. The fact that she's a government whip says it all.
there's a letter up in the post office from him, saying he's trying to stop it from being closed. which is good enough for me. i'm moving soon anyway, not sure who'll be my mp then..
He's the village idiot and I tore him apart when he gave a talk to us in Sixth Form.
However, he was a Whip and resigned in portest of the Tories' support of Iraq, so that's giving up a lot of money and priviledge for your principles, so he got some respect back from me.
I'm confident you didn't 'tear him apart'.
Also, MPs really don't get paid THAT much for the work they do. There is fair more money to be made in public affairs/lobbying.
you don't do too bad out of it.
He couldn't answer any of my questions properly, and when I retorted to any of the gibberish he spouted, he replied back with a mumble and then tried to impress the year 7s by talking about how he met the Queen once
They get paid a fair sum - more than me, my mum and my dad put together. Whips get paid more, so he gave up more pay for what he believed in.
Did you even read my post?
I just find a little implausible that an MP was outsmarted by a sixth former. It's not impossible I grant you, but a bit unbelievable.
And if he earns more than your immediate family, and is apparently a village idiot, why don't you run against him at the next election? You can have his money and his power.
"I just find a little implausible that an MP was outsmarted by a sixth former."
Go and introduce yourself to Ronnie Campbell, son...
And what relevance does your second point have to any I raised?
You said that MPs don't earn that much. I pointed out that they do. Regardless however, my point was that by giving up being a whip he gave up earning more than an ordianry MP (a point I hasten to add you have ignored). I really don't understand why you are trying to hound me for applauding someone's bravery.
And yes, because I forgot MPs are selected on the basis of their intelligence aren't they? I live in a die hard Tory area so being a Labour party member I'd poll a lot of votes but I would never stand a chance in hell of winning. God himself couldn't turn over a Tory in Uxbridge.
My boss used to earn almost four times his MPs salary. But I suppose to compensate for that substantial reduction he DOES now work 50% more hours than he used to. It really is pretty poor money, not that it matters since most of them aren't particularly interested in the financial trappings, as opposed to the personal trappings.
(the position he held) pays £81k.
Yeah you could make more in the private sector, but that's not an amount to shake a stick at.
for their Parliamentary salary.
So yes, £140k is a great salary but you're looking at working 75 hours a week to do both jobs properly.
That level of work in the private sector would command 500k+ salaries. Unless they're shit, obviously.
My point was that he gave up the extra money to stick by what he believed so got some extra kudos from me.
I wasn't arguing about that bit. Sorry to trespass.
Seems a nice chap, according to wikipedia:
"Lloyd joined the considerable number of Labour MPs in choosing to vote against government policy regarding the Iraq War, following this he sided with the sizable number of Labour MPs who rebelled against government policy to detain terror suspects for 90 days without trial, further, in 2007 Lloyd also voted against the renewal of the Trident Nuclear Missile System. Lloyd has also allied himself with other notable left wing causes, consistently voting in support of gay rights and against government policy to introduce student tuition fees."
my political hero. and former employer. the model of a good MP.
Is he just a backbencher who snoozes his way through parliamentary sessions?
a typical rich-suburb smarmy Tory MP who just turns up every year for a carnival or two and says "I don't think the fire station should be closed" before doing nothing about it and ordering a double-scotch at the Tennis Club
who only turns up in Watford when her seat's under threat from the pesky lib-dems and tories.
it used to be kate hoooooooeeeeeey, but then i moved
but I will find out. Previous MP's where I've lived have been: Jenny Willot (Lib Dem), Jackie Lawrence (Lab, and mother of John Lawrence of Gorky's 'fame'), Nick Ainger (Lab) and Nicholas Bennett (Con).
Do they do a good job? Dunno, though my friends and I asked Nicholas Bennett why he was such a cunt when we were about 13. He said "haha, I don't know, I should put that question to the house, hahaha"
quite a decent 'comeback'.
'If I may make so bold, Mr Speaker, why do the honourable Members present think i'm a cunt?'
the worlds first muslim MP or something
Largest expenses list in whole of British politics. Goes to Pakistan to ask that racist murderers of whites in Glasgow do the decent thing and return to face justice. This is a year or two after the murder usually, after they've had a few years to unwind after the stress of killing someone. He apparently finds this stressful and is using it as the main defence to get his son of the hook in a £850,000 money laundering case. I sleep safer at nights knowing he's out there accumulating money
about £20 million. This probably frees him up to do the relatively badly remunerated work of being a backbench MP.
criteria are people using to make this judgement?
Just out of interest - it seems that most people think an effective MP is someone who can repeatedly demonstrate their hatred for the government. And I find that a little depressing.
but a lot of MPs appear to not understand that they're elected to represent their local community and not just beef up the numbers to pass government policies.
serial rebels (Corbyn, Cohen, Wareing etc) are amongst the least representative MPs of all, though?
Or are they just more representative of you?
sorry if it appeared rude
while i'm fairly sure a lot of them allow their opinions to override any form of local opinion, they're at least clearly more open to listen and not just blindly vote as they're told by the whips.
you can also argue that, as they can do this and not get deselected, then they must have a good level of support at the local party.
do the local party matter?
members of political parties are braindead zombies who like the sounds of their own voices and me. seriously, you will never encounter such a deluded bunch of cranks. and yet they were able to more or less CHOOSE who the MP would be for Sedgefield. Weird, isn't it ?
They're standing as a representative of a party and they're voted in primarily on their party's policies. If their opinions are so far away from their party's then they should leave. But then they probably wouldn't get elected, so they don't.
The whipping system is definitely a good thing.
i'm not sure i entirely agree with this one. it's a varied country, what's good for one part might be very bad for another.
and if you're talking about the system, technically they're elected primarly as a candidate. party affiliation is a matter of public perception, although i won't argue that it hasn't become more important than who the candidate is.
candidate but they don't put out their own election manifesto, do they?
And you can be an effective representative of your constituents without simply rebelling against the government all the time. All the effective work goes on behind closed doors but people judge MPs based on the content of theyworkforyou.com
I would imagine lots of people don't really have a clue as they probably never meet their MP, watch a great deal of parliament or hear about their MP in the national media.
When I lived in Shropshire and in Oxford I felt like I had more awareness of my MP because they were more visible at local events and in local media. Now my only contact with Diane Abbott is from watching This Week.
I think it is far easier to judge the performance of the government as you have so many more performance markers and media outlets to go by. Still very difficult to be adequately informed though.
Yes, she is awesome!