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thought it was alright when i saw it.
sunday is gloomy, here at least.
all the "original" people are starting to leave and now theres only threads like this one.
and there seems to be a proliferation of awful people this weekend.
partly because it's fucking shit, and about middle-class wine-drinking needy cunts who deserve to be made to work in crisp factories for the rest of their miserable, cunty lives.
i like american splendor though, for fans of paul giamatti.
isn't that kind of the point of the film.
I think it's a really good character study about addiction and people telling themselves lies in order to make their lives more fulfilled.
which makes me think that the film is REDUNDANT and the director of the film should be BUMRAPED
I'm not being confrontational, I'm genuinely curious :)
it got 95 percent on rotten tomatoes, which made me think that a hell of a lot of film critics identified with it. But I don't. I'm middle-class and I look exactly like Mr Giamatti, and I know others who are middle-class and unfulfilled, but none of them seek solace in wine, and none of them are quite so LAME when they see opportunities as Mr Giamatti's character is.
His character was so anal-retentive and so pathetic that it made me and at least ten others fail to identify with him on any level. I don't see how a sympathetic study in addiction and the 'traps middle-classness can make you fall into' can work when the lead character is plainly such a rampant dickhead.
If the director's 'thing' is that 'hey, middle-class people who haven't achieved all their dreams, what they do, you see, is they get REALLY ANAL about things like WINE, yeah, because it's THAT SIMPLE!!' - that's a wrong 'thing'.
Words cannot really express my utter hatred of this unfunny, boring, presumptuous film. American Splendor is a much better expression of the human condition - a desperate filing dork, driven to creative self-obsession and ill-advised marriages. Just nothing to do with FUCKING WINE which NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE LIKE ANYWAY.
is that I thought Sideways was a caricature, and we need reality, not a caricature. American Splendor provides us with that reality because it's based on a real man. It's easy to pick out wine, because it's a middle-class interest - and the film was based to some extent on the author's own experiences. But a decent film needs to give the audience the opportunity to sympathise with its protagonists, and I thought, in this case, that the protagonists were so caricatured that it was impossible to identify with them.
It's a different type of film to American Splendor in my opinion.
In American Splendor the aim is to identify with the lead as he deals with what is actually some relatively mundane stuff. Not taking anything away from it, I love the film.
Sideways is intended for the audience to watch the development of two characters and their 'journey'. I think that viewing the transitions that the characters undergo and the realisations/conclusions that they come to doesn't need a degree of empathy or identification to be enjoyed.
and therein lies our irreconcilable difference, Monsieur Hadrill.
I didn't even like Thomas Haden Church.
I've had a similar argument with loads of people, I think it's a film that really divides people.
it was just a rites of passage roadtrip type thing, wasnt it?
i remember really enjoying it. all the wine talk was a bit boring, bu everyone's got an interest like that of some kind. i liked to imagine they were talking about photography or history or something fun, over those bits.
is one of my favourite movies, everyone should find a way of watching that instead of sideways
of watching anything that isn't sideways, basically.
apart from the bits with the real harvey, obviously
it's bleak, sad and dark. And it makes me want to drink more wine.
The characters and the plot are so flawed, and that's the entire point of the film. We're sposed to laugh at how ridiculous they both are. How completely stupid, useless, naive and immature they are. Two completely dislikeable pompous characters, add wine and women and you have a completely brilliant and disarming study of how idiotic people really are. I love it to bits.