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Thank fuck for that. Some sense at last.
"Professor Anthony King of Essex University, who chaired the Commission on Illegal Drugs, said the "great majority" of drug users did not harm themselves or others."
'Department of Government-Staff Profile-Anthony King'
presumably he's not able to make any decisions re: the long term effect on mental health of, say, cannabis then?
in our reception is clearly a crack user ... this intimidates me a little
I have school mate who used cannabis a lot for 10 years but stopped recently and is fine.
Probably it's no worse than alcohol.
you should publish that ...
Your "presumably he's not able to make any decisions re: the long term effect on mental health of, say, cannabis then?" is the sort of reactionary comment that these things always dig up.
Clearly the current laws have done fuck all to curb 'abuse' so a new way of tackling the problem is needed.
Who gives a fuck what the long-term effects are? Clearly smokers don't or they'd stop. Substances are bound to have effects on you. I lost a school mate to a trip, but that's not a reason to ban all drugs.
like the people who say 'well, my granddad smoked 40 a day and he lived till he was 100'
there is a worrying coaelescence of research that suggests persistent cannabis use can be a cause of mental health problems. And they can be far more pernicious and damaging than smoking related diseases are.
inconsistency in the law undermines the entire body of laws and displays a lack of courage and vision. the best way to deal with harmful things is to regulate them, not talk about how dangerous they are as an excuse for allowing them to remain so.
alcoholism causes depression?
irresponsible use of it might help cause or exacerbate it. much like irresponsible use of cannabis. can't see why i should have to be bound to the lowest common denominator of responsibility in society.
mm...but alcohol really does cause depression. Hence the number of people who have to drink every day to stop themselves going nuts
depression can cause alcoholism?
the relationship between the two is difficult to unravel...
alcohol and depression = not a good mix
cannabis and depression = not a good mix
responsible use of either in the right circumstances = fine
one is banned. the other isn't. this is stupid.
The issue is that EVERYTHING we do makes us die/fuck up/whatever.
That it may or may not exacerbate some mental health issues is not a good enough reason to just stick with the current clearly failing system or indeed to criminalise all such things.
the statement that most drug users did not harm themselves.
i agree that the current settlement is rubbish.
Or else you'd have given me hard facts rather than making sidelong hints that it might possibly turn out that cannabis has a long-term effect on your health.
People who don't use alcohol are few and far between so it's probably difficult to judge with them too.
i'd say that's reason enough to keep it illegal
because i have no expertise. the bloke who chaired this group also has no expertise in this area.
everyone i have met through work who has some expertise in this increasingly believes excessive cannabis use can be a cause of mental health problems.
but y'know, i did economics at university so i don't really know...
why should i have my freedom curtailed because some other fucker doesn't know when to stop?
In my experience people are far more aggressive drinking alcohol than popping pills.
and I have very libertarian views on this subject.
But then again, how many drinkers rob people to get money for Alcohol?
but in my experience a large proportion of people with severe mental health issues problems are either caused of aggrivated by drug use.
but none of this exists in a vacuum. If bored young men were not able to explore in this way then heaven only knows what other ways they would come into conflict with a (necessarily) repressive and restrictive society.
Many young men turn the conflict in on themselves, which is to the good of society, many end up topping themselves, but I imagine the state would rather that than bored, imaginative, passionate young men trying to make their 'OWN' mark on society, rather than established 'pat on the head of good dog' routes to entrepreneurial success...........I mean some of us think our own way......its hardwired more into men to be 'rogue' because of wanting to challenge 'the big man' at the top, specially if you disagree, men are able to be more 'detached' than women who on the whole, get on with living and interacting.
Bored men not following a path can be dangerous, alcahol and druks are useful for society in a way.
into 'irrelevant' or 'sad' hobbies or pursuits e.g. model trains (which are admitedly rather great), wargaming/military memorabelia, star trek memorabelia, pR0n, warhammer, online gaming, religeous sport following......etc these are more acceptable/managable areas into which divert mens spare enthusiasm and energy, it'll stop em thinking to much about being the fact that they're being led, ordered around by some insincere toady politician, unfortunately This has always been too blatently obvious to me, and it is a constant source of shame. At least having kids and Mrs Knees means that I have an honourable reason for not 'getting stuck in'
tHERE IS A LOt wrong with the world and the logic behind what we say and profess to have as values........the stronger the hit the more likely it is to break down artificial coping mechanisms/ acceptance, thus leaving you very alienated from society. Perhaps there was an underlying tendancy for the individuals to be alienated. It is just that the heavy sk**k brings that dormant feature out, a feature that otherwise might have remained submerged throughout their lives.
I have no doubt that the deterioration of my cousin's mental health was directly caused by drug abuse. But I do think that there was a problem there to start with, only drugs accelerated the process. I mean if you're happy within yourself, and you can find a natural high, then why would you feel the need to take a pill? It's all about escaping reality, which is what we all need to do time to time, and we should have the choice to decide how we do it.
That didnt make much sense, but my boss is making evils.
some baboons eat specific plants even though they have no nutritional value but are intoxicants....
seriously, i'm sure this was in the guardian a short while back.
not sure about this. it gets used a lot by the same sorts of people who lump all illegal 'drugs' into one category and oppose them, for example, to 'drink'.
it's about having different experiences. not because you're not happy in yourself. i think i'm quite happy and i'd want to use that as a secure basis to experience lots of different things.
in your photo?
a few hours or something. i have an essay and a piece of translation to finish by half 1. i need to eat lunch too. i can do it, but only if i concentrate. this is all too tempting to me.
why can i not do question marks ever?
i keep getting sucked in